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Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 15:45
by Tomasino
Babe Ruth must have been the biggest puncher ever. Look at his stats in baseball.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
So in summary Babe wins by brutal 2nd round KO.
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 16:03
by BroughtonRulesRefuge
- Babe actually contracted to fight Jack Johnson sparmate, friend, and era contender Gunboat Smith during a salary dispute in his Boston Red Sox days.
Red Sox gave in to his demands to kill the fight. Babe still holds pitching and batting records that can never be broken in the dumbed down modern game, and Ali? No records, just hearts and minds of here to today, gone tomorrow faddish lite in the loafers fans.
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 04 Jul 2016, 16:39
by Kalan
Babe Ruth was a short, fat, tub-of-lard... He had no interest in Boxing... Almost all his records have been broken.
Most of Wilt Chamberlain's records---and he held many more records than Ruth---are still intact decades after he set them... Many haven't been approached.
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 05 Jul 2016, 07:38
by Tomasino
Kalan wrote:Babe Ruth was a short, fat, tub-of-lard... He had no interest in Boxing... Almost all his records have been broken.
Most of Wilt Chamberlain's records---and he held many more records than Ruth---are still intact decades after he set them... Many haven't been approached.
Who?
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 05 Jul 2016, 07:46
by hhaehre
Kalan wrote:Babe Ruth was a short, fat, tub-of-lard... He had no interest in Boxing... Almost all his records have been broken.
Could Wilt have been a greater baseball player than Ruth if he had trained for 6 months or so? It seems to me that Wilt had the physical assets to do it.
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 05 Jul 2016, 08:15
by Bricks
Can we stop having these stupid threads. Boxers History has become a joke. 6 months ago it was a ghost town and the youtube trolls were let in which led to more traffic but never has the forum had so many pointless threads
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 05 Jul 2016, 12:01
by BroughtonRulesRefuge
Kalan wrote:Babe Ruth was a short, fat, tub-of-lard... He had no interest in Boxing... Almost all his records have been broken.
Most of Wilt Chamberlain's records---and he held many more records than Ruth---are still intact decades after he set them... Many haven't been approached.
- Congrats on your major league FAIL. While I appreciate you stirring up impacted bowels of this little forum glee club into an uproar, in this case yer yappin' up the wrong tree as you will see.
FACT: Ruth was going to make $5000 for a fight against Gunboat Smith, about his yearly salary then when the average player was making $1-2000. The Red Sox had never faced someone with this kind of bargaining power and quickly reversed to sign Ruth to his salary demands much like Wilt got. Babe turned pro just after his 19th birthday at a well made 6-2, 185 lbs. He mostly played around the 200-215 mark until later in his career where he did indeed become permanently hogfat. After his famed bellyache heard round the world where his death was reported as far away as Britain, in his 30s he would spend winters training at Artie McGovern's gym as he trained very much like a fighter and reported to the 1926 RedSox in fighting shape as you can see. He sparred plenty and the heavybag was his favorite activity up there with bowling and golf.
My opinions are base upon facts and understanding of the eras and fighter timelines and can be considered inviolable compared to most of the infantile droolings on this forum as you just demonstrated.
Here he is with Dempsey look alike, Max Schemling. Sure don't look short and fat.

Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 05 Jul 2016, 12:30
by Bricks
I ate a chocolate bar called babe ruth once.
I can agree that ruth could have been a decent fighter.
Just a hunch I have.
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 05 Jul 2016, 12:37
by Tomasino
Judah Ben Fur wrote:I ate a chocolate bar called babe ruth once.
I can agree that ruth could have been a decent fighter.
Just a hunch I have.
Don't post in stupid threads mate your only encouraging it
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 05 Jul 2016, 13:56
by Tony1244
Kalan wrote:Babe Ruth was a short, fat, tub-of-lard... He had no interest in Boxing... Almost all his records have been broken.
Most of Wilt Chamberlain's records---and he held many more records than Ruth---are still intact decades after he set them... Many haven't been approached.
Not to confuse you with the facts, but besides being a prolific homerun hitter, The Babe hit for average, I believe .342, had a great arm as a pitcher and a right fielder. Because The Babe could do it all from the plate and the mound, I rank him the best baseball player of all time. He probably would have been a good HW fighter, but I'm not going to make silly assumptions about sports people never played.
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 05 Jul 2016, 14:05
by gp.
BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote:Kalan wrote:Babe Ruth was a short, fat, tub-of-lard... He had no interest in Boxing... Almost all his records have been broken.
Most of Wilt Chamberlain's records---and he held many more records than Ruth---are still intact decades after he set them... Many haven't been approached.
- Congrats on your major league FAIL. While I appreciate you stirring up impacted bowels of this little forum glee club into an uproar, in this case yer yappin' up the wrong tree as you will see.
FACT: Ruth was going to make $5000 for a fight against Gunboat Smith, about his yearly salary then when the average player was making $1-2000. The Red Sox had never faced someone with this kind of bargaining power and quickly reversed to sign Ruth to his salary demands much like Wilt got. Babe turned pro just after his 19th birthday at a well made 6-2, 185 lbs. He mostly played around the 200-215 mark until later in his career where he did indeed become permanently hogfat. After his famed bellyache heard round the world where his death was reported as far away as Britain, in his 30s he would spend winters training at Artie McGovern's gym as he trained very much like a fighter and reported to the 1926 RedSox in fighting shape as you can see. He sparred plenty and the heavybag was his favorite activity up there with bowling and golf.
My opinions are base upon facts and understanding of the eras and fighter timelines and can be considered inviolable compared to most of the infantile droolings on this forum as you just demonstrated.
Here he is with Dempsey look alike, Max Schemling. Sure don't look short and fat.

In that second photograph Ruth is holding Wilt Chamberlain's bat.
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 05 Jul 2016, 14:08
by Tomasino
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 05 Jul 2016, 17:46
by Caractacus
I would pick "The Big Bambino" in three.
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 05 Jul 2016, 19:51
by Kalan
hhaehre wrote:Kalan wrote:Babe Ruth was a short, fat, tub-of-lard... He had no interest in Boxing... Almost all his records have been broken.
Could Wilt have been a greater baseball player than Ruth if he had trained for 6 months or so? It seems to me that Wilt had the physical assets to do it.
No... He had a MASSIVE strike zone... HIs talents were best suited for #1, Boxing... #2, Basketball.. He was also fabulous at Track & Field and Volleyball -- but not as outstanding as the 2 sports he had the most talent for.. You see.. He was a better individual athlete than a team player.. HIs stats bear this out
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 05 Jul 2016, 20:23
by Caractacus
I had read (somewhere) that Babe Ruth had wanted to become a professional boxer after the Johnson vrs Jeffries bout in 1910.
and had wanted to become the Heavyweight Champion of the World.
He was still on 16 years old but had won 32 amateur bouts in a row by knockout.
Reportedly he had changed his mind after attending a brutal prizefight where one of the boxers ears
was ripped off by a punch and hanging by a strand of skin and the other boxer broke his jaw falling to the canvas.
So it sounds like he didnt have a stomach for the brutality involved and so then took up baseball.
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 06 Jul 2016, 18:41
by BoxBuzz
Kalan wrote:hhaehre wrote:Kalan wrote:Babe Ruth was a short, fat, tub-of-lard... He had no interest in Boxing... Almost all his records have been broken.
Could Wilt have been a greater baseball player than Ruth if he had trained for 6 months or so? It seems to me that Wilt had the physical assets to do it.
No... He had a MASSIVE strike zone... HIs talents were best suited for #1, Boxing... #2, Basketball.. He was also fabulous at Track & Field and Volleyball -- but not as outstanding as the 2 sports he had the most talent for.. You see.. He was a better individual athlete than a team player.. HIs stats bear this out
He could have been a great swimmer.
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 13:08
by Bricks
Tomasino wrote:Judah Ben Fur wrote:I ate a chocolate bar called babe ruth once.
I can agree that ruth could have been a decent fighter.
Just a hunch I have.
Don't post in stupid threads mate your only encouraging it
Don't start stupid threads than
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 13:33
by Syntax Error
Ali was a great big wussy with a myriad of flaws.
Ruth would have torn him a new one!

Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 14:50
by Caractacus
Judah Ben Fur wrote:Tomasino wrote:Judah Ben Fur wrote:I ate a chocolate bar called babe ruth once.
I can agree that ruth could have been a decent fighter.
Just a hunch I have.
Don't post in stupid threads mate your only encouraging it
Don't start stupid threads than
Its called a BABY RUTH dude
and it doesnt have anything to do with the Legendary Athlete .
It came on the market in 1921 and was named after the President's (Grover Cleveland) daughter.
BTW I dont believe for a minute that you've ever eaten one either,
because everyone who has ever had one knows that its mostly peanuts and caramel.
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 17:08
by Caractacus
Kalan wrote:Babe Ruth was a short, fat, tub-of-lard... He had no interest in Boxing... Almost all his records have been broken.
Most of Wilt Chamberlain's records---and he held many more records than Ruth---are still intact decades after he set them... Many haven't been approached.
The Babe stood 6 ft 2" tall and weighed about 215 lbs when he was 20 years old.
and BTW someone had to set the standard for the records to be broken in the future and that person was Babe Ruth.
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 17:09
by Caractacus
check out the Babe in 1932 at age 37 years.
Wow,that right hook looked like it could have almost leveled the Empire State Building !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BjR1mSir58
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 08 Jul 2016, 09:55
by Tony1244
Caractacus wrote:I had read (somewhere) that Babe Ruth had wanted to become a professional boxer after the Johnson vrs Jeffries bout in 1910.
and had wanted to become the Heavyweight Champion of the World.
He was still on 16 years old but had won 32 amateur bouts in a row by knockout.
Reportedly he had changed his mind after attending a brutal prizefight where one of the boxers ears
was ripped off by a punch and hanging by a strand of skin and the other boxer broke his jaw falling to the canvas.
So it sounds like he didnt have a stomach for the brutality involved and so then took up baseball.
I'm not saying this is wrong, but I've found no evidence that Ruth had amateur fights.
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 08 Jul 2016, 15:37
by Caractacus
I don't really know either,I just read it in a newspaper article from August 1919.
(presumably the amateur bouts were at St. Mary's Industrial School for Boys in Baltimore Maryland)
Here is the link.
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid= ... 8571&hl=en
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 16 Jul 2016, 13:21
by Cap
Re: Babe Ruth vs Ali
Posted: 17 Jul 2016, 03:05
by Syntax Error
He wasn't THAT basketball player, he was THE basketball player & because of that, he would have easily beaten prime Muhammad Ali with six months training under Cus D'amato.
Did you not get the memo?
