BoxRec

Right got this idea from the 'Manchester' thread.

Know there's a few on here from the Midlands so thought could have one centralised thread that we try and keep going for anything relating to the local scene that might not normally get a thread started about it.

Few shows coming up in the area, Welborn v Cunningham definitely the pick em of them. Craig Cunningham current Middleweight Midlands Area champion moves down in weight to take on current Light Middleweight champion Welborn at the Futsal Arena in Hockley (Birmingham) on 16th July.

The show in Cannock (24th July at the Chase Leisure Centre) also looks a good one with Luke Paddock v Anthony Upton for the vacant English Light Welterweight title headlining.

Also shows currently schedulled for Walsall (Town Hall) and Solihull (Tudor Grange Leisure Centre) for Saturday coming, Worksop (North Notts Community Arena) and Tewkesbury (Tewesbury school) on Saturday 23rd July.

ste1983 wrote: Craig Cunningham current Middleweight Midlands Area champion moves down in weight to take on current Light Middleweight champion Welborn at the Futsal Arena in Hockley (Birmingham) on 16th July.

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hmm, tickets?

Counter-puncher wrote:

ste1983 wrote: Craig Cunningham current Middleweight Midlands Area champion moves down in weight to take on current Light Middleweight champion Welborn at the Futsal Arena in Hockley (Birmingham) on 16th July.

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hmm, tickets?

From an Express and Star article on the fight, or obviously from any boxer on the bill.

Tickets for the event are on sale now, priced at £35 and £50 ringside. Some VIP passes are available at £60. For more information, call promoter Paul ‘PJ’ Rowson on 07976 283 157.

Rob Hunt's fight off this coming weekend, shame was looking forward to watching that one always good value Warburton and a change he may just upset the plan.

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/oth ... cancelled/

The thing is boxrec had Warburton down as fighting in Sunderland Sunday when I looked last week.

ste1983 wrote:Rob Hunt's fight off this coming weekend, shame was looking forward to watching that one always good value Warburton and a change he may just upset the plan.

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/oth ... cancelled/

The thing is boxrec had Warburton down as fighting in Sunderland Sunday when I looked last week.

Might not be a bad thing for hunt. ( personally never rated him) the run Warburton on and if he fancies it his a real handful.

maley1984 wrote:

ste1983 wrote:Rob Hunt's fight off this coming weekend, shame was looking forward to watching that one always good value Warburton and a change he may just upset the plan.

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/oth ... cancelled/

The thing is boxrec had Warburton down as fighting in Sunderland Sunday when I looked last week.

Might not be a bad thing for hunt. ( personally never rated him) the run Warburton on and if he fancies it his a real handful.

Agree thats why I was looking forward to it (as think I'm gonna go Saturday) the card looks pretty deep but does lack any real competitive fights. This on paper wasn't one but had a feeling it would have been.

ste1983 wrote:

maley1984 wrote:

ste1983 wrote:Rob Hunt's fight off this coming weekend, shame was looking forward to watching that one always good value Warburton and a change he may just upset the plan.

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/oth ... cancelled/

The thing is boxrec had Warburton down as fighting in Sunderland Sunday when I looked last week.

Might not be a bad thing for hunt. ( personally never rated him) the run Warburton on and if he fancies it his a real handful.

Agree thats why I was looking forward to it (as think I'm gonna go Saturday) the card looks pretty deep but does lack any real competitive fights. This on paper wasn't one but had a feeling it would have been.

Yeah i looked at that card and was very disappointed. Bout time Clarke stepped up. The other lads r all building records apart from glover. I'm not going.

maley1984 wrote:

ste1983 wrote:

maley1984 wrote:
Might not be a bad thing for hunt. ( personally never rated him) the run Warburton on and if he fancies it his a real handful.

Agree thats why I was looking forward to it (as think I'm gonna go Saturday) the card looks pretty deep but does lack any real competitive fights. This on paper wasn't one but had a feeling it would have been.

Yeah i looked at that card and was very disappointed. Bout time Clarke stepped up. The other lads r all building records apart from glover. I'm not going.

Yeah agree re: Clarke needs to be looking at some sort of legitimate title (Midlands Area) next really.

I'm 50/50 just cuz I've not been to a local show for a while and being as there's no boxing on tv I quite fancy it.

ste1983 wrote:

maley1984 wrote:

ste1983 wrote:
Agree thats why I was looking forward to it (as think I'm gonna go Saturday) the card looks pretty deep but does lack any real competitive fights. This on paper wasn't one but had a feeling it would have been.

Yeah i looked at that card and was very disappointed. Bout time Clarke stepped up. The other lads r all building records apart from glover. I'm not going.

Yeah agree re: Clarke needs to be looking at some sort of legitimate title (Midlands Area) next really.

I'm 50/50 just cuz I've not been to a local show for a while and being as there's no boxing on tv I quite fancy it.

I can see maybe a Clark stoppage most others 40-36. Nothing stands out for a away win so far. I've just been away so gunna save the money.

Wat u make of glover. One minute his to big for feather then to small for super feather. Then back and to again.

maley1984 wrote:

ste1983 wrote:

maley1984 wrote:

Yeah i looked at that card and was very disappointed. Bout time Clarke stepped up. The other lads r all building records apart from glover. I'm not going.

Yeah agree re: Clarke needs to be looking at some sort of legitimate title (Midlands Area) next really.

I'm 50/50 just cuz I've not been to a local show for a while and being as there's no boxing on tv I quite fancy it.

I can see maybe a Clark stoppage most others 40-36. Nothing stands out for a away win so far. I've just been away so gunna save the money.

Wat u make of glover. One minute his to big for feather then to small for super feather. Then back and to again.

Always thought Featherweight was his best weight personally

ste1983 wrote:

maley1984 wrote:

ste1983 wrote:
Yeah agree re: Clarke needs to be looking at some sort of legitimate title (Midlands Area) next really.

I'm 50/50 just cuz I've not been to a local show for a while and being as there's no boxing on tv I quite fancy it.

I can see maybe a Clark stoppage most others 40-36. Nothing stands out for a away win so far. I've just been away so gunna save the money.

Wat u make of glover. One minute his to big for feather then to small for super feather. Then back and to again.

Always thought Featherweight was his best weight personally

And me. Fair play for taking the chances on offer at a higher weight. But he always uses weight issues for his losses in interviews. I thought he wud retire on back of wood defeat. Fair play to him carrying on tho.

How u see cunningham Welborn

maley1984 wrote:

ste1983 wrote:

maley1984 wrote:

I can see maybe a Clark stoppage most others 40-36. Nothing stands out for a away win so far. I've just been away so gunna save the money.

Wat u make of glover. One minute his to big for feather then to small for super feather. Then back and to again.

Always thought Featherweight was his best weight personally

And me. Fair play for taking the chances on offer at a higher weight. But he always uses weight issues for his losses in interviews. I thought he wud retire on back of wood defeat. Fair play to him carrying on tho.

How u see cunningham Welborn

Yeah I've noticed that, just the standard response isn't it lost = blame weight ha.

Its a shame all his more title fights have always come away from home. A decent title fight (midlands area or something) local I'm sure would do good business big/well known family around Tipton etc.

I'm edging towards Cunningham mate in a close tough fight.

ste1983 wrote:

maley1984 wrote:

ste1983 wrote:
Always thought Featherweight was his best weight personally

And me. Fair play for taking the chances on offer at a higher weight. But he always uses weight issues for his losses in interviews. I thought he wud retire on back of wood defeat. Fair play to him carrying on tho.

How u see cunningham Welborn

Yeah I've noticed that, just the standard response isn't it lost = blame weight ha.

Its a shame all his more title fights have always come away from home. A decent title fight (midlands area or something) local I'm sure would do good business big/well known family around Tipton etc.

I'm edging towards Cunningham mate in a close tough fight.

Re glover he does good tickets from wat I remember. He was turned down by the board to fight Chris for English wen Murray withdrew. Shame that fight never happened wud have sold locally really well and they don't like each other.

I fancy cunningham late. If he is OK at the weight.

maley1984 wrote:

ste1983 wrote:

maley1984 wrote:

And me. Fair play for taking the chances on offer at a higher weight. But he always uses weight issues for his losses in interviews. I thought he wud retire on back of wood defeat. Fair play to him carrying on tho.

How u see cunningham Welborn

Yeah I've noticed that, just the standard response isn't it lost = blame weight ha.

Its a shame all his more title fights have always come away from home. A decent title fight (midlands area or something) local I'm sure would do good business big/well known family around Tipton etc.

I'm edging towards Cunningham mate in a close tough fight.

Re glover he does good tickets from wat I remember. He was turned down by the board to fight Chris for English wen Murray withdrew. Shame that fight never happened wud have sold locally really well and they don't like each other.

I fancy cunningham late. If he is OK at the weight.

Believe Glover is now off the show

**well I read that on twitter but noticed UKO have posted a video of him doing pads today so not sure.

ste1983 wrote:

maley1984 wrote:

ste1983 wrote:
Yeah I've noticed that, just the standard response isn't it lost = blame weight ha.

Its a shame all his more title fights have always come away from home. A decent title fight (midlands area or something) local I'm sure would do good business big/well known family around Tipton etc.

I'm edging towards Cunningham mate in a close tough fight.

Re glover he does good tickets from wat I remember. He was turned down by the board to fight Chris for English wen Murray withdrew. Shame that fight never happened wud have sold locally really well and they don't like each other.

I fancy cunningham late. If he is OK at the weight.

Believe Glover is now off the show

**well I read that on twitter but noticed UKO have posted a video of him doing pads today so not sure.

That's happened b4 videos after pull outs. Glover has pulled out a couple of times in the past just b4 fight night. Haven't seen anything about him tho.

Lennox Clarke looked explosive Saturday stopping Gillen in the 1st round.

Really want to see his opposition stepped up now, I read that they wanted to make Saturdays fight for the vacant Midlands Area Title but the board (understandably imo) knocked it back. I'd still like to see Lennox fight for that belt. Maybe even against Tom Stokes who was also on the bill? Should be easily made and would do a lot of interest locally. Not sure they might think its too soon for Stokes though.

Anyone know the results from the MGM Birmingham show Saturday, still doesn't appear to be on here.

Welborn/Cunningham this coming Saturday in Hockley is likely to be a very good fight. Gutted I can't make it!

ste1983 wrote:Lennox Clarke looked explosive Saturday stopping Gillen in the 1st round.

Really want to see his opposition stepped up now, I read that they wanted to make Saturdays fight for the vacant Midlands Area Title but the board (understandably imo) knocked it back. I'd still like to see Lennox fight for that belt. Maybe even against Tom Stokes who was also on the bill? Should be easily made and would do a lot of interest locally. Not sure they might think its too soon for Stokes though.

Anyone know the results from the MGM Birmingham show Saturday, still doesn't appear to be on here.

Welborn/Cunningham this coming Saturday in Hockley is likely to be a very good fight. Gutted I can't make it!

I was disappointed wen I saw how len was matched. He needs to step up. Can't really think of any other lads at super middle in the Midlands at area level. Is Stokes managed by Errol. If so I can't see him matching those 2. Also Stokes never done above 4 rounds.

maley1984 wrote:

ste1983 wrote:Lennox Clarke looked explosive Saturday stopping Gillen in the 1st round.

Really want to see his opposition stepped up now, I read that they wanted to make Saturdays fight for the vacant Midlands Area Title but the board (understandably imo) knocked it back. I'd still like to see Lennox fight for that belt. Maybe even against Tom Stokes who was also on the bill? Should be easily made and would do a lot of interest locally. Not sure they might think its too soon for Stokes though.

Anyone know the results from the MGM Birmingham show Saturday, still doesn't appear to be on here.

Welborn/Cunningham this coming Saturday in Hockley is likely to be a very good fight. Gutted I can't make it!

I was disappointed wen I saw how len was matched. He needs to step up. Can't really think of any other lads at super middle in the Midlands at area level. Is Stokes managed by Errol. If so I can't see him matching those 2. Also Stokes never done above 4 rounds.

Not too sure always on his shows though so I'd imagine its a match that could be made if they wanted to like you say.

ste1983 wrote:

maley1984 wrote:

ste1983 wrote:Lennox Clarke looked explosive Saturday stopping Gillen in the 1st round.

Really want to see his opposition stepped up now, I read that they wanted to make Saturdays fight for the vacant Midlands Area Title but the board (understandably imo) knocked it back. I'd still like to see Lennox fight for that belt. Maybe even against Tom Stokes who was also on the bill? Should be easily made and would do a lot of interest locally. Not sure they might think its too soon for Stokes though.

Anyone know the results from the MGM Birmingham show Saturday, still doesn't appear to be on here.

Welborn/Cunningham this coming Saturday in Hockley is likely to be a very good fight. Gutted I can't make it!

I was disappointed wen I saw how len was matched. He needs to step up. Can't really think of any other lads at super middle in the Midlands at area level. Is Stokes managed by Errol. If so I can't see him matching those 2. Also Stokes never done above 4 rounds.

Not too sure always on his shows though so I'd imagine its a match that could be made if they wanted to like you say.

They both do decent tickets and unbeaten so it cud happen I just don't think it will. Errol builds fighters and goes English title route unless a British title shot on short notice comes up. Area fights only happen if he can match them well against another promotional out fit. he doesn't match his own lads at area level. A few fights sud have happened that never did. Chris glover. Hunt Pearce rematch.

I've heard Lennox had no amateur experience and came from unlicensed background. Anyone know more?

Dean Gillen is a trier. He used to train with me as an amateur. Game and fit. Didn't have much experience prior to going pro so to think he is 3-3 is quite an achievement. I hope he manages to snag himself a challenge belt.

Cazelo wrote:I've heard Lennox had no amateur experience and came from unlicensed background. Anyone know more?

Dean Gillen is a trier. He used to train with me as an amateur. Game and fit. Didn't have much experience prior to going pro so to think he is 3-3 is quite an achievement. I hope he manages to snag himself a challenge belt.

Yeah len was doing white collar b4 he turned pro and from wat can remember he was knocking them out for fun.

Anyone off here at the Cunningham/Welborn fight the weekend, couldn't make it myself in the end but heard it was a good fight.

Cunningham got the nod in a close fight (according to reports) to become two weight Midlands Area Champion.

I was pretty close up haha.
Was a great fight boxer v brawler and very very close i initialy scored it by a point to jason (raised a few eyebrows when saying this afterwards) but after sitting down watching the fight at home with out crowd going nuts and not having to concentrate on everything else i scored it for Cunningham.

Very good fight very close credit to both lads take a look see what you think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rug_oBk ... e=youtu.be

jonp wrote:I was pretty close up haha.
Was a great fight boxer v brawler and very very close i initialy scored it a point to jason (raised a few eyebrows when saying this afterwards) but after sitting down watching the fight at home with out crowd going nuts and not having to concentrate on everything else i scored it for Cunningham.

Very good fight very close credit to both lads take a look see what you think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rug_oBk ... e=youtu.be

I also had Welborn winning (by 3) scoring from ringside but having spoken to various press and boxing officionados it seems opinions are very split. It was a cracking fight between 2 great lads. Hoping we might get to see the rematch on a bigger stage

I'll watch the video footage when I get a spare hour and see if my original score stands.

The Insider wrote:

jonp wrote:I was pretty close up haha.
Was a great fight boxer v brawler and very very close i initialy scored it a point to jason (raised a few eyebrows when saying this afterwards) but after sitting down watching the fight at home with out crowd going nuts and not having to concentrate on everything else i scored it for Cunningham.

Very good fight very close credit to both lads take a look see what you think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rug_oBk ... e=youtu.be

I also had Welborn winning (by 3) scoring from ringside but having spoken to various press and boxing officionados it seems opinions are very split. It was a cracking fight between 2 great lads. Hoping we might get to see the rematch on a bigger stage

I'll watch the video footage when I get a spare hour and see if my original score stands.

Thanks Jon, I'll give it a watch later.

From a personal point of view I'd like to see a rematch on a similar stage (prefer smaller hall shows with fights like this topping the bill than them half way down an arena show card), but get it may need a big tv show to pick it up to get the £ a rematch would warrant.

Maybe Matchroom could pick it up for their October Brum show? That would be good.