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Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 10:18
by Loki
I've been following him closely for last two years; is he the real deal? Will he be AJ's toughest test and does he beat him?

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 10:34
by Cutman Scabbers
Hard to say, but I have a feeling when JP fights AJ the outcome will be decisive.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 10:53
by Reece_D
He looks good offensively with his quick combinations but gets hit way too easily. surely Joshua will be too much for him at this stage of his career.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 11:55
by Rob3_142
He looked good against Haumono, but his defence deserted him in the third round, and had that been Joshua he would have been seeing stars. His defence was non-existent, but what happens when you're fighting a person you know can't hurt you?

I'm still waiting for Parker to fight someone of real quality. Takam is definitely top 20 fighter, but he didn't perform well. He had Parker where he wanted him and he just stopped attacking allowing him to regather himself.

I think at this moment, Joshua is too big, too strong, and too good at tagging his opposition. All it will take one punch to force Parker onto the back foot, and all of a sudden he's on the defensive. And if that is the case, I'd worry for Parker, has he demonstrated enough defensive qualities to take on Joshua over 12 rounds? At the moment, no.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 11:57
by lefty
The more I watch him, the less I'm sold on him at the elite level. I think he will be a top 10/15 guy but any more than that I'm not so sure.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 12:00
by Rob3_142

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 13:45
by Kalan
Loki wrote:I've been following him closely for last two years; is he the real deal? Will he be AJ's toughest test and does he beat him?
NO. He lacks the technical skills to beat AJ.. Takam beat him and was robbed.. Parker is a very tough man like Foreman, Chuvalo, McCall, Vitali K, Ibeabuchi, and Tua.. Parker does have greater hand speed than most tough guys have -- like Ibeabuchi did to Byrd he can catch you with 1 you don't see.. Joshua might catch a couple.. He's going to have to ring his bell a few times before putting him down -- like he did to Whyte.. Breazeale could absorb terrific punishment, but there was nothing coming back at AJ.. There'll be 2-way traffic in this fight until Parker goes out around the 9th.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 14:22
by asdfjkl
For me, Parker is like the new Pulev, he's good, very good in fact, but just not actually it.


His technic is similar to AJ, somehow on all the other parts he's losing. Less range, less strength, less condition, less speed, less weight.

I still like the guy somehow, a lot even, very gentle, brave, nice, fanatic, name it.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 14:31
by lefty
asdfjkl wrote:For me, Parker is like the new Pulev, he's good, very good in fact, but just not actually it.


His technic is similar to AJ, somehow on all the other parts he's losing. Less range, less strength, less condition, less speed, less weight.

I still like the guy somehow, a lot even, very gentle, brave, nice, fanatic, name it.
You need to work on the trolling.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 15:11
by BitPlayer
He's good, but he needs to improve quite a bit for the top level, especially with being small compared to the likes of Wilder, Joshua and especially Fury.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 15:22
by crusader
Ya, he's a good fighter, top ten already IMO, but he still needs to improve to succefully compete against guys like Fury and AJ. The main thing for him is the spotty defense, which I think is a product of him standing too upright and not moving his head enough.

He's just 24 and I expect him to get better, but right now I'd make him a sizable underdog against AJ and I don't like that fight next for him. I think he'd be better off facing a group of opponents like Fedosov, Duhaupas, and Szpilka before making a jump to the elite level, though if he's getting a huge payday against AJ it may be a good career move even if he's beaten handily.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 15:29
by lefty
crusader wrote:Ya, he's a good fighter, top ten already IMO, but he still needs to improve to succefully compete against guys like Fury and AJ. The main thing for him is the spotty defense, which I think is a product of him standing too upright and not moving his head enough.

He's just 24 and I expect him to get better, but right now I'd make him a sizable underdog against AJ and I don't like that fight next for him. I think he'd be better off facing a group of opponents like Fedosov, Duhaupas, and Szpilka before making a jump to the elite level, though if he's getting a huge payday against AJ it may be a good career move even if he's beaten handily.
That would be an intriguing fight.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 15:35
by crusader
I agree.

I think Duhaupas is probably somewhat of a step down from Takam, but he offers a different style, more length, and the same high-tier durability. Perhaps with his recent world title shot and upset of Helenius he'd be more confident and less prone to fighting like a sparring partner, which is something he's done in the past.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 15:51
by asdfjkl
lefty wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:For me, Parker is like the new Pulev, he's good, very good in fact, but just not actually it.


His technic is similar to AJ, somehow on all the other parts he's losing. Less range, less strength, less condition, less speed, less weight.

I still like the guy somehow, a lot even, very gentle, brave, nice, fanatic, name it.
You need to work on the trolling.
Not interested, if I wanted to troll I would have said that Deontay Wilder has a chance of winning against this guy.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 15:56
by crusader
Right now I think the comparison to Pulev is actually pretty good. I can see Parker being the type who is the next best outside the elite few guys at the top.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 17:02
by lefty
asdfjkl wrote:
lefty wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:For me, Parker is like the new Pulev, he's good, very good in fact, but just not actually it.


His technic is similar to AJ, somehow on all the other parts he's losing. Less range, less strength, less condition, less speed, less weight.

I still like the guy somehow, a lot even, very gentle, brave, nice, fanatic, name it.
You need to work on the trolling.
Not interested, if I wanted to troll I would have said that Deontay Wilder has a chance of winning against this guy.
What's the very gentle bollocks all about then?

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 18:16
by Loki
lefty wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
lefty wrote: You need to work on the trolling.
Not interested, if I wanted to troll I would have said that Deontay Wilder has a chance of winning against this guy.
What's the very gentle bollocks all about then?
I agree, quite a strange post.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 18:17
by Loki
Kalan wrote:
Loki wrote:I've been following him closely for last two years; is he the real deal? Will he be AJ's toughest test and does he beat him?
NO. He lacks the technical skills to beat AJ.. Takam beat him and was robbed.. Parker is a very tough man like Foreman, Chuvalo, McCall, Vitali K, Ibeabuchi, and Tua.. Parker does have greater hand speed than most tough guys have -- like Ibeabuchi did to Byrd he can catch you with 1 you don't see.. Joshua might catch a couple.. He's going to have to ring his bell a few times before putting him down -- like he did to Whyte.. Breazeale could absorb terrific punishment, but there was nothing coming back at AJ.. There'll be 2-way traffic in this fight until Parker goes out around the 9th.
I'm not sure what fight you were watching if you thought Takam beat Parker.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 18:19
by Loki
Although I agree, I think AJ beats Parker; I do think Parker will be his toughest test.

I think it will be an interesting fight though. Parker is really quick but open. AJ seems the real deal, but I can't stop thinking Frank Bruno. I hope I'm wrong, as I'd like to see him go on to dominant like the Klitschkos.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 18:26
by Like a Boss
When Parker has his jab working for him, as he did in the 4th round against Haumono, he looks a special fighter.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 18:57
by Killer Blow
asdfjkl wrote:
lefty wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:For me, Parker is like the new Pulev, he's good, very good in fact, but just not actually it.


His technic is similar to AJ, somehow on all the other parts he's losing. Less range, less strength, less condition, less speed, less weight.

I still like the guy somehow, a lot even, very gentle, brave, nice, fanatic, name it.
You need to work on the trolling.
Not interested, if I wanted to troll I would have said that Deontay Wilder has a chance of winning against this guy.
Wilder would 100% beat Parker if they fought right now. Quote me on that.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 19:01
by Loki
Killer Blow wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
lefty wrote: You need to work on the trolling.
Not interested, if I wanted to troll I would have said that Deontay Wilder has a chance of winning against this guy.
Wilder would 100% beat Parker if they fought right now. Quote me on that.
Possibly, but certainly not 100%.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 19:07
by Killer Blow
Loki wrote:
Killer Blow wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Not interested, if I wanted to troll I would have said that Deontay Wilder has a chance of winning against this guy.
Wilder would 100% beat Parker if they fought right now. Quote me on that.
Possibly, but certainly not 100%.
If they fight in the next year Wilder will win. After that it may become a different story.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 23:38
by asdfjkl
Killer Blow wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
lefty wrote: You need to work on the trolling.
Not interested, if I wanted to troll I would have said that Deontay Wilder has a chance of winning against this guy.
Wilder would 100% beat Parker if they fought right now. Quote me on that.
Wilder would 100% lose against Parker if they fought right now, Wilder is in hospital and is lucky that Arreola allowed him to walk away while being heavely injured. Probably got payed to lose, but whatever, the American crowd is easy to fool anyway. Wilder is doing it for years now already.

Re: Joseph Parker - The Real Deal?

Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 23:40
by asdfjkl
lefty wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
lefty wrote: You need to work on the trolling.
Not interested, if I wanted to troll I would have said that Deontay Wilder has a chance of winning against this guy.
What's the very gentle bollocks all about then?
Allways polite, never agressive, he's simply not a hothead, like Whyte, Chisora, name them.