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Any fighter, any weight, who you think will dominate his division or divisions for years to come? I have to pick Errol spence jr as my top pick, I also think Luis Ortiz will also be unbeatable while he's around. What do you think?

Erickson Lubin. He'll probably be champion within 2 years, maybe 3, looks the mustard.

Lomachenko if he picks a division and stays there, Crawford at 140 and I'm hoping Callum Smith lives up to expectations and dominates at super middle..

In the know 85 wrote:Any fighter, any weight, who you think will dominate his division or divisions for years to come? I have to pick Errol spence jr as my top pick, I also think Luis Ortiz will also be unbeatable while he's around. What do you think?

It's a pity that Ortiz is too old. He can be on the highest level only during few years. And we have a very big competition in heavyweight now: Fury, Klitschko, Joshua, Wilder, Haye, Povetkin, Parker, Ortiz.

Spence vs Lubin - 2020

Lomachenko will be a dominator at 130 and 135. May be also in 140 someday.

I hope that Oleksandr Usyk can be a dominator of the cruiserweigth. He has everything for this. Exept that he has very spectacular style for his division.

DannyMCR wrote:Lomachenko if he picks a division and stays there, Crawford at 140 and I'm hoping Callum Smith lives up to expectations and dominates at super middle..

I think that Crawford must quit his current belts and go to the 147. There are so many intresting fights can be in welterweight.

Anthony Joshua is the only one popping up in my mind.

Anthony Joshua at Heavy
GGG at Middle for as long as he wants to stay there
Terence Crawford at 147 or 140

gilgamesh wrote:Anthony Joshua at Heavy
GGG at Middle for as long as he wants to stay there
Terence Crawford at 147 or 140

I can agree that Joshua looks like he has best chances to dominate in heavyweight. But he must be tested by one of the few top-fighters such as Wilder, Haye, Ortiz, Povetkin, Parker, Fury, Klitschko. Or Bermane Stiverne at least. Can't wait for big fight with AJ.

On the subject of GGG, he also looks like dominator. But I'm sure that Daniel Jacobs and skilled guys such as Sergiy "The Technician" Derevyanchenko has some chances to beat Golovkin.

There isn't anyone on the horizon that has a chance at beating Crawford at 140.

Same with Lomachenko at 130 or 135.

I would expect GGG to dominate for several more years but there are guys I can conceivably see him losing to. That isn't the case for Crawford (unless he moves up) or Loma.

I like Spence a lot but there are so many good fighters at 147 that it is tough to say he will dominate.

jockpunk wrote:There isn't anyone on the horizon that has a chance at beating Crawford at 140.

Same with Lomachenko at 130 or 135.

I would expect GGG to dominate for several more years but there are guys I can conceivably see him losing to. That isn't the case for Crawford (unless he moves up) or Loma.

I like Spence a lot but there are so many good fighters at 147 that it is tough to say he will dominate.

I don't know about that. There's some dudes at 135 that could give him problems specifically Dejan Zlaticanin

gilgamesh wrote:

jockpunk wrote:There isn't anyone on the horizon that has a chance at beating Crawford at 140.

Same with Lomachenko at 130 or 135.

I would expect GGG to dominate for several more years but there are guys I can conceivably see him losing to. That isn't the case for Crawford (unless he moves up) or Loma.

I like Spence a lot but there are so many good fighters at 147 that it is tough to say he will dominate.

I don't know about that. There's some dudes at 135 that could give him problems specifically Dejan Zlaticanin

Lomachenko is too skilled for such short fighter like Zlaticanin. Vasyl is one of the most skilled and various fighter in the history of the boxing. I don't think that somebody from 130 or 135 can make insoluble problems for him. May be Barthelemy or Flanagan could give Lomachenko good fight... but short Zlaticanin will be anihilated by Vasyl's perfect footwork.

MaxiBoxc wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

jockpunk wrote:There isn't anyone on the horizon that has a chance at beating Crawford at 140.

Same with Lomachenko at 130 or 135.

I would expect GGG to dominate for several more years but there are guys I can conceivably see him losing to. That isn't the case for Crawford (unless he moves up) or Loma.

I like Spence a lot but there are so many good fighters at 147 that it is tough to say he will dominate.

I don't know about that. There's some dudes at 135 that could give him problems specifically Dejan Zlaticanin

Lomachenko is too skilled for such short fighter like Zlaticanin. Vasyl is one of the most skilled and various fighter in the history of the boxing. I don't think that somebody from 130 or 135 can make insoluble problems for him. May be Barthelemy or Flanagan could give Lomachenko good fight... but short Zlaticanin will be anihilated by Vasyl's perfect footwork.

Lomachenko is kinda small even for 130 pounds, I doubt he'll be going up to 135. At least anytime soon.

I believe and hope that in the coming years Andrew Selby will rule the flyweight like the other great British flyweights such as Peter Kaine, Benny Lynch and Jackie Paterson who is arguably the best flyweight ever.

Naoya Inoue may be divisional #1 for a decade.
Roman Gonzalez is probably a lock to be divisional #1 for 5 years.
If Leo Santa Cruz gets past Frampton, he may be divisional #1 for like 7-8 years.
Saul Alvarez may potentially be divisional #1 at various points of his career for 5-10 years cumulatively.
Tyson Fury or Anthony Joshua may spend a decade reigning as divisional #1.

I think Luis Ortiz is a terrible pick, being that at age 37, he's still never reached divisional #1 status, he's 1 of like 7 different fighters who may reach #1 status in the near future, and he's within a small number of years of his prime being over. I'd love to hear a list of boxers who never reached divisional #1 status until they were 39 years old and then continued reigning at #1 for several years. You're not going to find any.
I think Errol Spence is a possible longshot, as he's in a division that's deep as hell, he's far from occupying the #1 spot right now, and he's not that many years younger than the fighters currently above him. He's probably going to be in Terence Crawford's shadow and possibly Keith Thurman's and Danny Garcia's as well until 2023. Given his height and reach, there's a good chance that he moves up to light middleweight, but then he's sharing a division with the Charlos, and those dudes are monsters. Best case scenario for Spence would be if the Charlos, Alvarez, Martirosyan, and Andrade all moved-up to middleweight, Lara retired in a few years, and Spence had the light middleweight division virtually all to himself.

gilgamesh wrote:

MaxiBoxc wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
I don't know about that. There's some dudes at 135 that could give him problems specifically Dejan Zlaticanin

Lomachenko is too skilled for such short fighter like Zlaticanin. Vasyl is one of the most skilled and various fighter in the history of the boxing. I don't think that somebody from 130 or 135 can make insoluble problems for him. May be Barthelemy or Flanagan could give Lomachenko good fight... but short Zlaticanin will be anihilated by Vasyl's perfect footwork.

Lomachenko is kinda small even for 130 pounds, I doubt he'll be going up to 135. At least anytime soon.

I see you didn't know that Lomachenko won World Championship 2011 and Olympic Games 2012 in the lightweight.

MaxiBoxc wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

MaxiBoxc wrote: Lomachenko is too skilled for such short fighter like Zlaticanin. Vasyl is one of the most skilled and various fighter in the history of the boxing. I don't think that somebody from 130 or 135 can make insoluble problems for him. May be Barthelemy or Flanagan could give Lomachenko good fight... but short Zlaticanin will be anihilated by Vasyl's perfect footwork.

Lomachenko is kinda small even for 130 pounds, I doubt he'll be going up to 135. At least anytime soon.

I see you didn't know that Lomachenko won World Championship 2011 and Olympic Games 2012 in the lightweight.

In the Amateurs the Lightweight limit is 132 pounds I believe. He looks pretty small for these divisions to me personally, or maybe Francisco Vargas and Orlando Salido are just big for these divisions.

Tyson Fury (if he doesn't retire early)
Kovalev (He'll retire undefeated)
Callum Smith
GGG
Crawford
Inoue
Gonzalez

Assuming he doesn’t get matched up against the relative veteran Chocolatito, how about the 23 year old Naoya Inoue?

EDIT: Ooops - I realised a couple of people have already mentioned him.

gilgamesh wrote:

MaxiBoxc wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Lomachenko is kinda small even for 130 pounds, I doubt he'll be going up to 135. At least anytime soon.

I see you didn't know that Lomachenko won World Championship 2011 and Olympic Games 2012 in the lightweight.

In the Amateurs the Lightweight limit is 132 pounds I believe. He looks pretty small for these divisions to me personally, or maybe Francisco Vargas and Orlando Salido are just big for these divisions.

Olympic games 2012 was 4 years ago (when Lomachenko was 24 years old). I just know that Vasyl feels comfortable with weight nearly 130-135. But his size is not so significant, because he is one of the most skilled boxers ever. I wouldn't be surprised if some day we will see him at 140, but this is so far from today.

Joshua and GGG.

Gilberto Ramirez has a chance at super middle, If Alvarez stays at 154 till GGG retires he can, Crawford will if he stays at 140 but if he does step up to 147 he'll have better fights and make more money but less likely to dominate the division, Roman Gonzalez is another that springs to mind and also Joshua has a chance especially if Klitschko/Fury pack it in after there next fight and Wilder is as chinny as some say he is

Inoue and Chocolatito are in the same division so one of them definitely isn't ruling it.

The winner of Ward v Kovalev could have a great run at light heavy. Win that super-fight, couple of steady defences then take on Stevenson for undisputed at that class. I'd fancy either to take Stevenson too, especially Ward.