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Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 26 Jul 2016, 14:02
by Caractacus
You know who I am talking about,the 6 ft 6 inch tall English dude who was in the Darth Vader suit for the first three Star War films.
I remember him mosly from the early 1970's in the Hammer Films
and also in A CLOCKWORK ORANGE.
He was born in 1935 and took up body building around 1948.
Just suppose he also took up boxing and had someone to guide him.
If so he probably would have turned pro at age 20 which would have been somewhere in the mid-1950's.

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 26 Jul 2016, 15:37
by Ambling Alp II
Only if the Force was with him.

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 26 Jul 2016, 19:06
by Caractacus
Ambling Alp II wrote:Only if the Force was with him.
Do you mean someone like Andy Lee ?

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 26 Jul 2016, 19:08
by BoxBuzz
Lurch from the "Adams Family" TV show....
Herman from "The Munsters" TV show

Both possible contenders if they would have moved to Britain.

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 26 Jul 2016, 19:58
by Caractacus
BoxBuzz wrote:Lurch from the "Adams Family" TV show....
Herman from "The Munsters" TV show

Both possible contenders if they would have moved to Britain.
and what if Peter Mayhew (Chewbaca)at 7 ft 3" ,what if his parents had immigrated to the United States
back in the early 1950's and had taken an interest in Basketball soon after he arrived.
Do you think he could have been an all time terrific basketball center ?
could he have been a "contender" to Wilt Chamberlain stats ?

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 27 Jul 2016, 04:14
by Cutman Scabbers
Only with the help of James Earl Jones

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 27 Jul 2016, 19:02
by Caractacus
like I said,most people who know of Dave Prowse as the dude in the Darth Vader suit,but Tomasino and gp probably know him more from this clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y6HhRAyEm4

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 03:25
by Tomasino
Hello Kalan :salut:

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 03:48
by Heartbreak_Kid79
Size alone isn't enough... he would have needed an enormous amount of boxing skill (which he didn't have)- even at British level... he'd have been around in the era of Henry Cooper, Brian London etc

On calling on his Dark supernatural powers could save him....

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 05:11
by orbtastic
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Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 16:09
by gp.
Tomasino wrote:Hello Kalan :salut:
I still don't think he is. Kalan talks rubbish, but he talks it much more fluently than Caractacus/Il Duce, who speaks English like a second language.

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 16:28
by Tomasino
gp. wrote:
Tomasino wrote:Hello Kalan :salut:
I still don't think he is. Kalan talks rubbish, but he talks it much more fluently than Caractacus/Il Duce, who speaks English like a second language.

Why does he single both of us out in the thread? It's not like Ive had any direct negatives with 'him'. I think the 'language' is just a fools effort to disguise his multi personalities.

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 16:40
by gp.
Tomasino wrote:
gp. wrote:
Tomasino wrote:Hello Kalan :salut:
I still don't think he is. Kalan talks rubbish, but he talks it much more fluently than Caractacus/Il Duce, who speaks English like a second language.

Why does he single both of us out in the thread? It's not like Ive had any direct negatives with 'him'. I think the 'language' is just a fools effort to disguise his multi personalities.

Could be, although he doesn't like me because I keep saying he's Il Duce. And I'd hesitate to give him that much credit, given that Il Duce and Caractacus were immediately recognisable as the same person due to the rather idiosyncratic delivery.

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 17:50
by punchoutsb
Heartbreak_Kid79 wrote:Size alone isn't enough... he would have needed an enormous amount of boxing skill (which he didn't have)- even at British level... he'd have been around in the era of Henry Cooper, Brian London etc

On calling on his Dark supernatural powers could save him....
Isn't the point of the thread what his potential would have been had he taken up boxing instead?

Price had size, strength, and athleticism; three things you can't teach that can take you relatively far even with slightly above average boxing skill.

Obviously there is no way to tell for sure, but if he had started young and had a good coach who knows.

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 17:51
by Tomasino
gp. wrote:
Tomasino wrote:
gp. wrote:
I still don't think he is. Kalan talks rubbish, but he talks it much more fluently than Caractacus/Il Duce, who speaks English like a second language.

Why does he single both of us out in the thread? It's not like Ive had any direct negatives with 'him'. I think the 'language' is just a fools effort to disguise his multi personalities.

Could be, although he doesn't like me because I keep saying he's Il Duce. And I'd hesitate to give him that much credit, given that Il Duce and Caractacus were immediately recognisable as the same person due to the rather idiosyncratic delivery.

It just seems odd that it's them, and only them, who keep going on about Wilt. However, I could care less :lol: :TU:

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 17:52
by Tomasino
punchoutsb wrote:
Heartbreak_Kid79 wrote:Size alone isn't enough... he would have needed an enormous amount of boxing skill (which he didn't have)- even at British level... he'd have been around in the era of Henry Cooper, Brian London etc

On calling on his Dark supernatural powers could save him....
Isn't the point of the thread what his potential would have been had he taken up boxing instead?

Price had size, strength, and athleticism; three things you can't teach that can take you relatively far even with slightly above average boxing skill.

Obviously there is no way to tell for sure, but if he had started young and had a good coach who knows.

6 months with Kalan as his bitch and D'Amato as his trainer and he'd have been champion of the universe.

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 17:54
by punchoutsb
Tomasino wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
Heartbreak_Kid79 wrote:Size alone isn't enough... he would have needed an enormous amount of boxing skill (which he didn't have)- even at British level... he'd have been around in the era of Henry Cooper, Brian London etc

On calling on his Dark supernatural powers could save him....
Isn't the point of the thread what his potential would have been had he taken up boxing instead?

Price had size, strength, and athleticism; three things you can't teach that can take you relatively far even with slightly above average boxing skill.

Obviously there is no way to tell for sure, but if he had started young and had a good coach who knows.

6 months with Kalan as his bitch and D'Amato as his trainer and he'd have been champion of the universe.
:lol:

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 18:05
by Caractacus
Heartbreak_Kid79 wrote:Size alone isn't enough... he would have needed an enormous amount of boxing skill (which he didn't have)- even at British level... he'd have been around in the era of Henry Cooper, Brian London etc

On calling on his Dark supernatural powers could save him....
Well obviously he didnt have any boxing skills because he never took any boxing lessons (as far as I know),
But just figure just after the war(WW II),people are looking for a fresh start,
someone see's the size of him and wonders if he may have what it takes to be a champion (sort of like the scouts that saw Jess Willard tossing bales of hay onto a wagon in Kansas or Primo Carnera at the circus in France
(what was the poplulation of England in 1950 ? 38 million?
IUts not lkie they had a reserve of big human specimens like the USA.

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 18:08
by Caractacus
as far as Dave Prowse's athletcism.
I think he may have only been involved with Body Building,weightlifting and physical fitness.
which are sort of stationary activities.
someone like Joe Bugner was involved in track & Field during his school days.

yeah maybe from his sheer size he could have defeated Brian London
(who was the largest fighter that Brian London ever fought ?)
and maybe get a title shot at Floyd Patterson.

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 18:17
by Tomasino
Caractacus wrote:as far as Dave Prowse's athletcism.
I think he may have only been involved with Body Building,weightlifting and physical fitness.
which are sort of stationary activities.
someone like Joe Bugner was involved in track & Field during his school days.

yeah maybe from his sheer size he could have defeated Brian London
(who was the largest fighter that Brian London ever fought ?)
and maybe get a title shot at Floyd Patterson.

Quite the imagination you have there.

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 18:19
by punchoutsb
Prowse was a pretty accomplished weightlifter, which takes an extraordinary amount of athleticism.

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 18:23
by Tomasino
punchoutsb wrote:Prowse was a pretty accomplished weightlifter, which takes an extraordinary amount of athleticism.

I've never heard of a champion boxer coming from weightlifting. Not much contact in that sport...

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 18:27
by punchoutsb
Tomasino wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:Prowse was a pretty accomplished weightlifter, which takes an extraordinary amount of athleticism.

I've never heard of a champion boxer coming from weightlifting. Not much contact in that sport...
Its such a technical sport, there's not a lot of time to multi-sport it if you want to succeed. I'd imagine you'd be hard pressed to find a top level boxer today who doesn't perform Oly's in their training.

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 18:30
by Tomasino
punchoutsb wrote:
Tomasino wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:Prowse was a pretty accomplished weightlifter, which takes an extraordinary amount of athleticism.

I've never heard of a champion boxer coming from weightlifting. Not much contact in that sport...
Its such a technical sport, there's not a lot of time to multi-sport it if you want to succeed. I'd imagine you'd be hard pressed to find a top level boxer today who doesn't perform Oly's in their training.

That's true, but I'd imagine you'd struggle to find an Olympic WL who can take a punch from a heavyweight boxer.

Re: Could Dave Prowse have become the British Heavyweight Boxing champion ?

Posted: 28 Jul 2016, 18:32
by punchoutsb
Tomasino wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
Tomasino wrote:

I've never heard of a champion boxer coming from weightlifting. Not much contact in that sport...
Its such a technical sport, there's not a lot of time to multi-sport it if you want to succeed. I'd imagine you'd be hard pressed to find a top level boxer today who doesn't perform Oly's in their training.

That's true, but I'd imagine you'd struggle to find an Olympic WL who can take a punch from a heavyweight boxer.
You'd struggle to find anyone in any sport who can take a punch from a heavyweight boxer.