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Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 05:08
by jaymitch81
Sorry if already been discussed but curious to know where people rate Frampton performance alongside the greatest British performances on foreign soil?
What are people's top 3?
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 05:48
by Anzi
jaymitch81 wrote:Sorry if already been discussed but curious to know where people rate Frampton performance alongside the greatest British performances on foreign soil?
What are people's top 3?
I actually had him losing the fight, it was a close, two of the judges scorecards were ridiculous, I thought Santa Cruz out worked Frampton and clinched it by winning the last 3 rounds, I had it by 2 rounds to Santa Cruz, I also thought it was a very good performance by Frampton, Santa Cruz is a really good fighter and never stops throwing, the both had their moments. Got to be a rematch, was a great fight, two top class fighters.
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 06:01
by vidal
Achievement wise, it's fantastic, right up there. Santa Cruz has to be one of the outstanding boxers out there, he demonstrated ability in every department..... a bigger whack and it would have been a different outcome.
Performance wise, he knows he could have done better. There were moments in the fight where he was moving in, throwing superb combinations and coming out at angles completely un-retaliated. Other times he lost concentration and got drawn. I think he'll do better in a rematch.
I was really routing for him, so scored it pessimistically. I had him losing by a round, but as a fan I could easily have given it to him by 3.
Chuffed to bits though.
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 06:38
by Stuarty
Up there with the best performances on foreign soil. I've watched the fight again twice and IMO the correct man got the nod. Great performance by both guys and hopefully they do it again in Belfast.
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 06:46
by Oiky
frampton put in a good performance. for me, i'd like to see a rematch though

Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 07:09
by jaymitch81
Anzi wrote:jaymitch81 wrote:Sorry if already been discussed but curious to know where people rate Frampton performance alongside the greatest British performances on foreign soil?
What are people's top 3?
I actually had him losing the fight, it was a close, two of the judges scorecards were ridiculous, I thought Santa Cruz out worked Frampton and clinched it by winning the last 3 rounds, I had it by 2 rounds to Santa Cruz, I also thought it was a very good performance by Frampton, Santa Cruz is a really good fighter and never stops throwing, the both had their moments. Got to be a rematch, was a great fight, two top class fighters.
I actually had it a draw at the end but could not argue either with it going one way or the other but the scorecards were far too wide.
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 08:54
by Anzi
jaymitch81 wrote:Anzi wrote:jaymitch81 wrote:Sorry if already been discussed but curious to know where people rate Frampton performance alongside the greatest British performances on foreign soil?
What are people's top 3?
I actually had him losing the fight, it was a close, two of the judges scorecards were ridiculous, I thought Santa Cruz out worked Frampton and clinched it by winning the last 3 rounds, I had it by 2 rounds to Santa Cruz, I also thought it was a very good performance by Frampton, Santa Cruz is a really good fighter and never stops throwing, the both had their moments. Got to be a rematch, was a great fight, two top class fighters.
I actually had it a draw at the end but could not argue either with it going one way or the other but the scorecards were far too wide.
The Draw was fair, but the other judges must have had Irish heritage lol.
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 09:15
by manchester-mexican
Had Frampton by 1, but the 'ragga muffin man' still one , if not thee best away day win for me .
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 09:41
by jamesmcdonnell
manchester-mexican wrote:Had Frampton by 1, but the 'ragga muffin man' still one , if not thee best away day win for me .
Certainly the most emphatic win. Nobody saw that coming, certainly not Donald, he was like a deer in the headlights.
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 09:43
by Reece_D
I had Santa Cruz by 1 but there was a lot of close rounds and it come down to what you like so couldn't argue what way it went. Brilliant win for Frampton though. up there with the best on foreign soil.
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 12:02
by mullenman
Best ever performance on American soil
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 12:06
by jamesmcdonnell
mullenman wrote:Best ever performance on American soil
Really? I can't see how it beats Honeyghan smashing the shite out of Curry, who at the time was considered a top 5 p4P fighter, and hadn't shown the slightest signs of being beatable.
Frampton was nowhere near as dominant as Honeyghan was that night, although the scorecards might have had it wide, the reality is, that was a fight that could have gone either way.
Great performance, but best performance ever on US soil, no way.
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 12:19
by forcefraser
Froch v Taylor was a great fight and win. The only question is whether Taylor was shot before the Froch fight or was he "Cobra`d"
Either way, that last round was EPIC.
Frampton`s was an excellent win as well (I had it a draw). Santa Cruz was/is a top fighter, BUT I don` t think he`s the best in the division. Frampton would have to beat Russel Jr for me to class him as the top guy in the division.
Great result though for Frampton and so pleased for him. Really like the little fella.
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 12:25
by Taansend
The unofficial judge on Showtime had Frampton up by about 6 rounds. The commentators seem to have him comfortably ahead too.
A Mexican American mate of mine (who's also a boxing writer) had Frampton up by a couple of rounds
I didn't score it as I just wanted to enjoy the action without analysing anything but felt that Frampton was landing the better punches throughout but so many rounds were subjective.
All in all a great fight but I do feel that Russell would beat both of them.
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 12:43
by manchester-mexican
jamesmcdonnell wrote:manchester-mexican wrote:Had Frampton by 1, but the 'ragga muffin man' still one , if not thee best away day win for me .
Certainly the most emphatic win. Nobody saw that coming, certainly not Donald, he was like a deer in the headlights.
remember watching it with my dad n we both stunned, Curry was fearsome
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 12:51
by littlepug
for me it ranks alongside mcdonnells wins over the japanese fella and brooks win over porter, so a good win for frampton but the likes of honeygahn and laing have better IMO
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 14:35
by forestbox
Honeyghan beating curry
Kirkland Laing beating Duran
Fury beating Klitschko
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 16:31
by lillywhite14
Agree with the last few here. Cracking fight, very, very close but still below the top level wins.
I think Santa Cruz will have woke up the next day, watched it back and is still shaking his head at how he fought!
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 16:34
by gilgamesh
I mean I thought the fight was a draw, but Frampton still fought beautifully, and won his rounds more emphatically. I had no issue with him getting the decision as if anybody deserved it, it was him.
It has to rate pretty damn highly for Irish Boxers, he's on track to be the first Irishman in my lifetime to gain Fighter of the Year honors.
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 16:43
by Counter-puncher
lillywhite14 wrote:Agree with the last few here. Cracking fight, very, very close but still below the top level wins.
I think Santa Cruz will have woke up the next day, watched it back and is still shaking his head at how he fought!
In what sense? He fought his usual fight pretty much, didn't he? Threw 1000 punches. Thats him.
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 11:27
by bigjack
manchester-mexican wrote:Had Frampton by 1, but the 'ragga muffin man' still one , if not thee best away day win for me .
Same for me,nobody gave Honeyghan even the slightest chance that night.
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 11:28
by jamesmcdonnell
Counter-puncher wrote:lillywhite14 wrote:Agree with the last few here. Cracking fight, very, very close but still below the top level wins.
I think Santa Cruz will have woke up the next day, watched it back and is still shaking his head at how he fought!
In what sense? He fought his usual fight pretty much, didn't he? Threw 1000 punches. Thats him.
Did he? Sure didn't seem like he was very busy in the 1st half of the fight; many of those must have been tentative underreaching shots.
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 11:29
by jamesmcdonnell
bigjack wrote:manchester-mexican wrote:Had Frampton by 1, but the 'ragga muffin man' still one , if not thee best away day win for me .
Same for me,nobody gave Honeyghan even the slightest chance that night.
Precisely, and he didn't just beat curry, he battered him, you almost felt sorry for Curry, until you remembered his clinical decapitation of Milton McCrory.
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 12:26
by bigjack
jamesmcdonnell wrote:bigjack wrote:manchester-mexican wrote:Had Frampton by 1, but the 'ragga muffin man' still one , if not thee best away day win for me .
Same for me,nobody gave Honeyghan even the slightest chance that night.
Precisely, and he didn't just beat curry, he battered him, you almost felt sorry for Curry, until you remembered his clinical decapitation of Milton McCrory.
And the way he stood in front of colin jones,a noted puncher,and almost removed his nose was also a brilliant performance,Curry had not really showed any kind of weakness at all and was at his absolute peak when Honeyghan tore him apart.
Re: Where does Frampton performance rate?
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 13:48
by Counter-puncher
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:lillywhite14 wrote:Agree with the last few here. Cracking fight, very, very close but still below the top level wins.
I think Santa Cruz will have woke up the next day, watched it back and is still shaking his head at how he fought!
In what sense? He fought his usual fight pretty much, didn't he? Threw 1000 punches. Thats him.
Did he? .
Apparently. If his output was lower than usual early, you surely have to credit Frampton for hurting him early and punching him out of his game plan. You don't tend to rush hard at a bloke who's wobbled you badly just now, in fact some would say its a good idea not to.