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Make 2 million on ITV, with 100% crossover appeal. Amt & Dec, Mr & Mrs, the works. Recognised everywhere.

Or be an obscure PPV fighter, known only to hardcore, but much richer.

Ego or wealth ?

Easy choice for me - I think I'd go genuinely crazy if I was even semi well-known, so I'd take the lower profile with increased riches any day.

Easy the money for me ,,,The people who matter my fans familly and freinds , would know me ,
Stuff being a crossover star , everytime you meet that nice looker with the big tits , who just happens to find you sexy , even though your a ugly bastard who prior to being famous , could'nt score a fuuk in a brothel

Well every time you meet one , you find your reading in the daily star what a lousy shag you were with a small knob ,, Naaw give me rich over famous anyday

I can`t think of anything worse than being famous, especially since the creation of social media and the interweb.

No privacy at all and everywhere you go some celebrity obsessed loon is filming you to put it on twatter, mashbook or some other form of mind numbing pish.

Mashbook has it`s uses, but it also an outlet for needy women to vent their insecurities on the public. My misssus uses it and I have looked through her page (to make sure she aint getting a sly length off some strong thighed bargeman named Leroy) and you basically see nonsense like "Oh no, what am I going to do now........" or "I can`t believe it.......typical me......."

Then some gullible muppet replies "What is it? Are you alright? PLEASE PLEASE TELL US". It`s such pish. I wrote (hiding behind my missus`s login obviously) "Button it you drama queen" and the page erupted with abuse, defending this bird. My poor missus got so much stick for it and had to explain that it was in fact me.

It is so bad. People delve through their photos to find the absolute best one of themselves or even worse, their kids, hoping to get "likes" and nice comments. Jesus Christ. Isn`t that what we used to call attention seeking and desperate need for compliments??

It can be used positively, but in general is just another tool that controls people`s thinking and reinforces the plastic throwaway fame obsessed world that we live in today. People seem more concerned with their "likes" status on facebook than issues such as a lunatic like Donald trump could soon bring the world into meltdown. "I aint got time to look at that, as I have to win some grain to feed my virtual chickens"

I could go on all day with this stuff, it really get`s my back up. Society has become a much shallower place as a result of social media. It aint real no more brothers, it just aint real.

Couples having arguments online in full view of a bunch of mindless feckwits who follow it. Why would anyone even consider that having an argument with your spouse (who is probably sat five feet away from you whilst you are typing) should be for public consumption and secondly that ayone would find it even remotely interesting. problem is there are many people who actually do follow this shit and lap it up. It`s such a base base level of "entertainment". Read a book instead, go out and train, screw your wife or some other bird on the side. DO SOMETHING RATHER THAN SPENDING YOUR LIFE PARTAKING IN THIS PISH.

........hang on, am I not writing on a forum....

Rant over and back on topic, the only advantage I could think of with massive fame is the rootage it gets you. Read Sugar Ray Leonard`s book, his sword was getting more action that a batty boys backside at an arse rapists reunion.

Fame? Keep it brother. I know what it`s like. I`ve suffered it for years. Having played international rugby for Norway, I can barely set foot in any Western country without hoardes of screaming fans wanting a piece of me. It gets tiring, it`s intrusive and it needs to stop

You make many good points forcefraser

"arse rapists reunion"

Wife made me a facebook thingybob , I won't use it , she asks me and others have asked why don't i use it , and my answer is always the same , if i want to speak to a freind , I'LL RING THEM .. grandaughter was actually telling me she has over a thousand freinds on facebook ,, i asked her how many birthday parties you been to this month ,, non she said ,,, great freinds you got i answered ... It went right over her head , has she was taking selfies . I'm getting her a selfie stick for her birthday , that will go over her head has well .

Youngest lad is the same , he asked me why don't you use facebook Dad , reckons if i do we can communicate instantly , told him the same when i want to talk to you , i ring you , he said you never ring ,, say no more i said . Once again it went over his head ,, i was laughing about it and how there a bit slow .. Wife said you took the punches , your kids have ended up punchy

I'll take the money, I would hate to be famous.

I hate attention. I hate even going shopping when it's busy. I enjoy the quiet life with the family nowadays so it would have to be the wealth for me. I've never been over ambitious or money orientated either tbh.

forcefraser wrote:I can`t think of anything worse than being famous, especially since the creation of social media and the interweb.

No privacy at all and everywhere you go some celebrity obsessed loon is filming you to put it on twatter, mashbook or some other form of mind numbing pish.

Mashbook has it`s uses, but it also an outlet for needy women to vent their insecurities on the public. My misssus uses it and I have looked through her page (to make sure she aint getting a sly length off some strong thighed bargeman named Leroy) and you basically see nonsense like "Oh no, what am I going to do now........" or "I can`t believe it.......typical me......."

Then some gullible muppet replies "What is it? Are you alright? PLEASE PLEASE TELL US". It`s such pish. I wrote (hiding behind my missus`s login obviously) "Button it you drama queen" and the page erupted with abuse, defending this bird. My poor missus got so much stick for it and had to explain that it was in fact me.

It is so bad. People delve through their photos to find the absolute best one of themselves or even worse, their kids, hoping to get "likes" and nice comments. Jesus Christ. Isn`t that what we used to call attention seeking and desperate need for compliments??

It can be used positively, but in general is just another tool that controls people`s thinking and reinforces the plastic throwaway fame obsessed world that we live in today. People seem more concerned with their "likes" status on facebook than issues such as a lunatic like Donald trump could soon bring the world into meltdown. "I aint got time to look at that, as I have to win some grain to feed my virtual chickens"

I could go on all day with this stuff, it really get`s my back up. Society has become a much shallower place as a result of social media. It aint real no more brothers, it just aint real.

Couples having arguments online in full view of a bunch of mindless feckwits who follow it. Why would anyone even consider that having an argument with your spouse (who is probably sat five feet away from you whilst you are typing) should be for public consumption and secondly that ayone would find it even remotely interesting. problem is there are many people who actually do follow this poo and lap it up. It`s such a base base level of "entertainment". Read a book instead, go out and train, screw your wife or some other bird on the side. DO SOMETHING RATHER THAN SPENDING YOUR LIFE PARTAKING IN THIS PISH.

........hang on, am I not writing on a forum....

Rant over and back on topic, the only advantage I could think of with massive fame is the rootage it gets you. Read Sugar Ray Leonard`s book, his sword was getting more action that a batty boys backside at an arse rapists reunion.

Fame? Keep it brother. I know what it`s like. I`ve suffered it for years. Having played international rugby for Norway, I can barely set foot in any Western country without hoardes of screaming fans wanting a piece of me. It gets tiring, it`s intrusive and it needs to stop

I went on a river boat shuffle this weekend for someone's 40th and there were four hen dos on the boat, Christ the youngsters are a self obsessed lot. They literally spent the whole time taking photos of themselves. It was only the oldies actually having the crack. Does anyone even look at their pics? I rarely do.

I also hate the current online theme of making tragedy a trend, with their hash tags and profile pics. It's just all so full of self importance.

Stevieb8006 wrote:

forcefraser wrote:I can`t think of anything worse than being famous, especially since the creation of social media and the interweb.

No privacy at all and everywhere you go some celebrity obsessed loon is filming you to put it on twatter, mashbook or some other form of mind numbing pish.

Mashbook has it`s uses, but it also an outlet for needy women to vent their insecurities on the public. My misssus uses it and I have looked through her page (to make sure she aint getting a sly length off some strong thighed bargeman named Leroy) and you basically see nonsense like "Oh no, what am I going to do now........" or "I can`t believe it.......typical me......."

Then some gullible muppet replies "What is it? Are you alright? PLEASE PLEASE TELL US". It`s such pish. I wrote (hiding behind my missus`s login obviously) "Button it you drama queen" and the page erupted with abuse, defending this bird. My poor missus got so much stick for it and had to explain that it was in fact me.

It is so bad. People delve through their photos to find the absolute best one of themselves or even worse, their kids, hoping to get "likes" and nice comments. Jesus Christ. Isn`t that what we used to call attention seeking and desperate need for compliments??

It can be used positively, but in general is just another tool that controls people`s thinking and reinforces the plastic throwaway fame obsessed world that we live in today. People seem more concerned with their "likes" status on facebook than issues such as a lunatic like Donald trump could soon bring the world into meltdown. "I aint got time to look at that, as I have to win some grain to feed my virtual chickens"

I could go on all day with this stuff, it really get`s my back up. Society has become a much shallower place as a result of social media. It aint real no more brothers, it just aint real.

Couples having arguments online in full view of a bunch of mindless feckwits who follow it. Why would anyone even consider that having an argument with your spouse (who is probably sat five feet away from you whilst you are typing) should be for public consumption and secondly that ayone would find it even remotely interesting. problem is there are many people who actually do follow this poo and lap it up. It`s such a base base level of "entertainment". Read a book instead, go out and train, screw your wife or some other bird on the side. DO SOMETHING RATHER THAN SPENDING YOUR LIFE PARTAKING IN THIS PISH.

........hang on, am I not writing on a forum....

Rant over and back on topic, the only advantage I could think of with massive fame is the rootage it gets you. Read Sugar Ray Leonard`s book, his sword was getting more action that a batty boys backside at an arse rapists reunion.

Fame? Keep it brother. I know what it`s like. I`ve suffered it for years. Having played international rugby for Norway, I can barely set foot in any Western country without hoardes of screaming fans wanting a piece of me. It gets tiring, it`s intrusive and it needs to stop

I went on a river boat shuffle this weekend for someone's 40th and there were four hen dos on the boat, Christ the youngsters are a self obsessed lot. They literally spent the whole time taking photos of themselves. It was only the oldies actually having the crack. Does anyone even look at their pics? I rarely do.

I also hate the current online theme of making tragedy a trend, with their hash tags and profile pics. It's just all so full of self importance.

I feel the same Fukk friendface! Bunch of nosey cúnts

Neither

It would only be about winning titles, fighting the best, beating the best and my legacy among true boxing fans.

Unfortunately however I'm just a boring old mechy that no one knows and wins fornicate all

SAPFO wrote:Make 2 million on ITV, with 100% crossover appeal. Amt & Dec, Mr & Mrs, the works. Recognised everywhere.

Or be an obscure PPV fighter, known only to hardcore, but much richer.

Ego or wealth ?

Your question is a bit odd, crossover stars make way more money from boxing than those that don't cross over.

Stevieb8006 wrote:

forcefraser wrote:I can`t think of anything worse than being famous, especially since the creation of social media and the interweb.

No privacy at all and everywhere you go some celebrity obsessed loon is filming you to put it on twatter, mashbook or some other form of mind numbing pish.

Mashbook has it`s uses, but it also an outlet for needy women to vent their insecurities on the public. My misssus uses it and I have looked through her page (to make sure she aint getting a sly length off some strong thighed bargeman named Leroy) and you basically see nonsense like "Oh no, what am I going to do now........" or "I can`t believe it.......typical me......."

Then some gullible muppet replies "What is it? Are you alright? PLEASE PLEASE TELL US". It`s such pish. I wrote (hiding behind my missus`s login obviously) "Button it you drama queen" and the page erupted with abuse, defending this bird. My poor missus got so much stick for it and had to explain that it was in fact me.

It is so bad. People delve through their photos to find the absolute best one of themselves or even worse, their kids, hoping to get "likes" and nice comments. Jesus Christ. Isn`t that what we used to call attention seeking and desperate need for compliments??

It can be used positively, but in general is just another tool that controls people`s thinking and reinforces the plastic throwaway fame obsessed world that we live in today. People seem more concerned with their "likes" status on facebook than issues such as a lunatic like Donald trump could soon bring the world into meltdown. "I aint got time to look at that, as I have to win some grain to feed my virtual chickens"

I could go on all day with this stuff, it really get`s my back up. Society has become a much shallower place as a result of social media. It aint real no more brothers, it just aint real.

Couples having arguments online in full view of a bunch of mindless feckwits who follow it. Why would anyone even consider that having an argument with your spouse (who is probably sat five feet away from you whilst you are typing) should be for public consumption and secondly that ayone would find it even remotely interesting. problem is there are many people who actually do follow this poo and lap it up. It`s such a base base level of "entertainment". Read a book instead, go out and train, screw your wife or some other bird on the side. DO SOMETHING RATHER THAN SPENDING YOUR LIFE PARTAKING IN THIS PISH.

........hang on, am I not writing on a forum....

Rant over and back on topic, the only advantage I could think of with massive fame is the rootage it gets you. Read Sugar Ray Leonard`s book, his sword was getting more action that a batty boys backside at an arse rapists reunion.

Fame? Keep it brother. I know what it`s like. I`ve suffered it for years. Having played international rugby for Norway, I can barely set foot in any Western country without hoardes of screaming fans wanting a piece of me. It gets tiring, it`s intrusive and it needs to stop

I went on a river boat shuffle this weekend for someone's 40th and there were four hen dos on the boat, Christ the youngsters are a self obsessed lot. They literally spent the whole time taking photos of themselves. It was only the oldies actually having the crack. Does anyone even look at their pics? I rarely do.

I also hate the current online theme of making tragedy a trend, with their hash tags and profile pics. It's just all so full of self importance.

I've got some younger female friends (mid 20's) through a band I play in, and their facebook profiles are bloody traffic, just endless pouty selifies, and pictures of themselves in the gym (great wank fodder mind) - I just can't see the attraction of it all, people are becoming so narcissistic.

I went to see Stevie Wonder a few weeks back, and almost everyone under 30 stood there just videoing the whole thing....ffs!

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Stevieb8006 wrote:

forcefraser wrote:I can`t think of anything worse than being famous, especially since the creation of social media and the interweb.

No privacy at all and everywhere you go some celebrity obsessed loon is filming you to put it on twatter, mashbook or some other form of mind numbing pish.

Mashbook has it`s uses, but it also an outlet for needy women to vent their insecurities on the public. My misssus uses it and I have looked through her page (to make sure she aint getting a sly length off some strong thighed bargeman named Leroy) and you basically see nonsense like "Oh no, what am I going to do now........" or "I can`t believe it.......typical me......."

Then some gullible muppet replies "What is it? Are you alright? PLEASE PLEASE TELL US". It`s such pish. I wrote (hiding behind my missus`s login obviously) "Button it you drama queen" and the page erupted with abuse, defending this bird. My poor missus got so much stick for it and had to explain that it was in fact me.

It is so bad. People delve through their photos to find the absolute best one of themselves or even worse, their kids, hoping to get "likes" and nice comments. Jesus Christ. Isn`t that what we used to call attention seeking and desperate need for compliments??

It can be used positively, but in general is just another tool that controls people`s thinking and reinforces the plastic throwaway fame obsessed world that we live in today. People seem more concerned with their "likes" status on facebook than issues such as a lunatic like Donald trump could soon bring the world into meltdown. "I aint got time to look at that, as I have to win some grain to feed my virtual chickens"

I could go on all day with this stuff, it really get`s my back up. Society has become a much shallower place as a result of social media. It aint real no more brothers, it just aint real.

Couples having arguments online in full view of a bunch of mindless feckwits who follow it. Why would anyone even consider that having an argument with your spouse (who is probably sat five feet away from you whilst you are typing) should be for public consumption and secondly that ayone would find it even remotely interesting. problem is there are many people who actually do follow this poo and lap it up. It`s such a base base level of "entertainment". Read a book instead, go out and train, screw your wife or some other bird on the side. DO SOMETHING RATHER THAN SPENDING YOUR LIFE PARTAKING IN THIS PISH.

........hang on, am I not writing on a forum....

Rant over and back on topic, the only advantage I could think of with massive fame is the rootage it gets you. Read Sugar Ray Leonard`s book, his sword was getting more action that a batty boys backside at an arse rapists reunion.

Fame? Keep it brother. I know what it`s like. I`ve suffered it for years. Having played international rugby for Norway, I can barely set foot in any Western country without hoardes of screaming fans wanting a piece of me. It gets tiring, it`s intrusive and it needs to stop

I went on a river boat shuffle this weekend for someone's 40th and there were four hen dos on the boat, Christ the youngsters are a self obsessed lot. They literally spent the whole time taking photos of themselves. It was only the oldies actually having the crack. Does anyone even look at their pics? I rarely do.

I also hate the current online theme of making tragedy a trend, with their hash tags and profile pics. It's just all so full of self importance.

I've got some younger female friends (mid 20's) through a band I play in, and their facebook profiles are bloody traffic, just endless pouty selifies, and pictures of themselves in the gym (great wank fodder mind) - I just can't see the attraction of it all, people are becoming so narcissistic.

I went to see Stevie Wonder a few weeks back, and almost everyone under 30 stood there just videoing the whole thing....ffs!

Seeing all thise camera phones flashing must have been very distracting for him

davie wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Stevieb8006 wrote:

I went on a river boat shuffle this weekend for someone's 40th and there were four hen dos on the boat, Christ the youngsters are a self obsessed lot. They literally spent the whole time taking photos of themselves. It was only the oldies actually having the crack. Does anyone even look at their pics? I rarely do.

I also hate the current online theme of making tragedy a trend, with their hash tags and profile pics. It's just all so full of self importance.

I've got some younger female friends (mid 20's) through a band I play in, and their facebook profiles are bloody traffic, just endless pouty selifies, and pictures of themselves in the gym (great wank fodder mind) - I just can't see the attraction of it all, people are becoming so narcissistic.

I went to see Stevie Wonder a few weeks back, and almost everyone under 30 stood there just videoing the whole thing....ffs!

Seeing all thise camera phones flashing must have been very distracting for him

Errr.....don't know how to tell you this.......

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

davie wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
I've got some younger female friends (mid 20's) through a band I play in, and their facebook profiles are bloody traffic, just endless pouty selifies, and pictures of themselves in the gym (great wank fodder mind) - I just can't see the attraction of it all, people are becoming so narcissistic.

I went to see Stevie Wonder a few weeks back, and almost everyone under 30 stood there just videoing the whole thing....ffs!

Seeing all thise camera phones flashing must have been very distracting for him

Errr.....don't know how to tell you this.......

That's what makes guys like Stevie so great, they have the ability to focus and perform professionally under less than optimum conditions...take that would have been rolling around on the floor covering their eyes, crying.

Tomasino wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

davie wrote:
Seeing all thise camera phones flashing must have been very distracting for him

Errr.....don't know how to tell you this.......

That's what makes guys like Stevie so great, they have the ability to focus and perform professionally under less than optimum conditions...take that would have been rolling around on the floor covering their eyes, crying.

pmsl

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

SAPFO wrote:Make 2 million on ITV, with 100% crossover appeal. Amt & Dec, Mr & Mrs, the works. Recognised everywhere.

Or be an obscure PPV fighter, known only to hardcore, but much richer.

Ego or wealth ?

Your question is a bit odd, crossover stars make way more money from boxing than those that don't cross over.

Do they? Did Froch male more than DeGale? Last year. Most people know Froch, but not DeGale

Froch wasnt really a crossover star. The general oublic never took to him.

forcefraser wrote:I can`t think of anything worse than being famous, especially since the creation of social media and the interweb.

No privacy at all and everywhere you go some celebrity obsessed loon is filming you to put it on twatter, mashbook or some other form of mind numbing pish.

Mashbook has it`s uses, but it also an outlet for needy women to vent their insecurities on the public. My misssus uses it and I have looked through her page (to make sure she aint getting a sly length off some strong thighed bargeman named Leroy) and you basically see nonsense like "Oh no, what am I going to do now........" or "I can`t believe it.......typical me......."

Then some gullible muppet replies "What is it? Are you alright? PLEASE PLEASE TELL US". It`s such pish. I wrote (hiding behind my missus`s login obviously) "Button it you drama queen" and the page erupted with abuse, defending this bird. My poor missus got so much stick for it and had to explain that it was in fact me.

It is so bad. People delve through their photos to find the absolute best one of themselves or even worse, their kids, hoping to get "likes" and nice comments. Jesus Christ. Isn`t that what we used to call attention seeking and desperate need for compliments??

It can be used positively, but in general is just another tool that controls people`s thinking and reinforces the plastic throwaway fame obsessed world that we live in today. People seem more concerned with their "likes" status on facebook than issues such as a lunatic like Donald trump could soon bring the world into meltdown. "I aint got time to look at that, as I have to win some grain to feed my virtual chickens"

I could go on all day with this stuff, it really get`s my back up. Society has become a much shallower place as a result of social media. It aint real no more brothers, it just aint real.

Couples having arguments online in full view of a bunch of mindless feckwits who follow it. Why would anyone even consider that having an argument with your spouse (who is probably sat five feet away from you whilst you are typing) should be for public consumption and secondly that ayone would find it even remotely interesting. problem is there are many people who actually do follow this poo and lap it up. It`s such a base base level of "entertainment". Read a book instead, go out and train, screw your wife or some other bird on the side. DO SOMETHING RATHER THAN SPENDING YOUR LIFE PARTAKING IN THIS PISH.

........hang on, am I not writing on a forum....

Rant over and back on topic, the only advantage I could think of with massive fame is the rootage it gets you. Read Sugar Ray Leonard`s book, his sword was getting more action that a batty boys backside at an arse rapists reunion.

Fame? Keep it brother. I know what it`s like. I`ve suffered it for years. Having played international rugby for Norway, I can barely set foot in any Western country without hoardes of screaming fans wanting a piece of me. It gets tiring, it`s intrusive and it needs to stop

*like*

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Froch wasnt really a crossover star. The general oublic never took to him.

Think he might have meant DeGale as the crossover star but i wouldn't class him as one really. He's probably a known name but not recognisable.

I still think the only crossover stars boxing has now are Haye & Khan. We could all rattle off a load of names on here and say who's done what etc but if i speak to my mum, gran or women at work then they'll always claim to only know about those pair

freddydoesdallas wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Froch wasnt really a crossover star. The general oublic never took to him.

Think he might have meant DeGale as the crossover star but i wouldn't class him as one really. He's probably a known name but not recognisable.

I still think the only crossover stars boxing has now are Haye & Khan. We could all rattle off a load of names on here and say who's done what etc but if i speak to my mum, gran or women at work then they'll always claim to only know about those pair

Yes, both of whom have made absolute fortunes. Khan has earned WAY more money than Froch in his career, despite Froch having a lot more title fights.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Froch wasnt really a crossover star. The general oublic never took to him.

Think he might have meant DeGale as the crossover star but i wouldn't class him as one really. He's probably a known name but not recognisable.

I still think the only crossover stars boxing has now are Haye & Khan. We could all rattle off a load of names on here and say who's done what etc but if i speak to my mum, gran or women at work then they'll always claim to only know about those pair

Yes, both of whom have made absolute fortunes. Khan has earned WAY more money than Froch in his career, despite Froch having a lot more title fights.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I've got some younger female friends (mid 20's) through a band I play in, and their facebook profiles are bloody traffic, just endless pouty selifies, and pictures of themselves in the gym (great wank fodder mind) - I just can't see the attraction of it all, people are becoming so narcissistic.

I went to see Stevie Wonder a few weeks back, and almost everyone under 30 stood there just videoing the whole thing....ffs!

I was at a mate's daughter's birthday party a couple of months ago. It was like some sort of weird plastic Kardashian convention. All doing that weird hand on hip leg bent slightly outwards and retarded pout thing for pictures. The best/worst bit of the evening was my mate got her camera out to take a (normal) pic and literally all the women in the room turned around and started pouting as the flash went off, thinking they were having their photo taken. Absolutely cringey. They went full retard when a selfie stick came out later on.

SAPFO wrote:Make 2 million on ITV, with 100% crossover appeal. Amt & Dec, Mr & Mrs, the works. Recognised everywhere.

Or be an obscure PPV fighter, known only to hardcore, but much richer.

Ego or wealth ?

Only to hardcore, but much richer and not really bothered if nobody knew who the hell I was.