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Looked fairly promising too.

Povetkin Wilder is delayed due to PED allegations.
Wilder then severly injres himself in a keep busy fight.
Tyson Fury is caught up in PED allegations, likely messing up his rematch with Wlad.
And now Ortiz has commited career suicide.

What's going to happen next?

Eddie Hearn allows Shannon Briggs to face Anthony Joshua, which results in the American defying the odds to score a shocking first round KO to claim the IBF world heavyweight title?

“LET’S GO CHAMP!”

Heavyweight division been dead for years its the least interesting division in the sport

They're probably screwing Ortiz on the money... What reason did he give??? I haven't heard Ortiz's side of this.

Ban drug testing in boxing.

It's ruining everything.

littlepug wrote:Heavyweight division been dead for years its the least interesting division in the sport

The heavyweight division is always the most important division in boxing.

Horse wrote:

littlepug wrote:Heavyweight division been dead for years its the least interesting division in the sport

The heavyweight division is always the most important division in boxing.

It should be but it isn't, it should be the poster division for the sport but its being overshadowed by the wealth of talent from the divisions below, only in Germany in recent years has there been a superstar heavyweight, every other country in the world however has had smaller guys having the star power, the heavyweights are floundering badly so its easy to get a bit excited when theres a sniff of something happening ala Joshua but we are still a way off the old days yet.

Fres Oquendo be undisputed champion by the end of the year if WBA had there way.

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12 ... os-angeles

Not to make light of this, but wow.

Hopefully he's alright.

Horse wrote:

littlepug wrote:Heavyweight division been dead for years its the least interesting division in the sport

The heavyweight division is always the most important division in boxing.

Only because IDIOTS keep saying so.

The fascination with heavyweights is a holdover from the time the only way to see a fight was to see a fight live. In person, size matters.
Watching fights on TV has removed that reality. Now these guys are slower/less-skilled guys on TV.

Boxing fans need to stop promoting this heavyweight garbage. Why make the worst quality product the face of your sport? IDIOTS.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Only because IDIOTS keep saying so.

The fascination with heavyweights is a holdover from the time the only way to see a fight was to see a fight live. In person, size matters.
Watching fights on TV has removed that reality. Now these guys are slower/less-skilled guys on TV.

Boxing fans need to stop promoting this heavyweight garbage. Why make the worst quality product the face of your sport? IDIOTS.

The heavyweights are the biggest and toughest. They'd batter the fighters from the smaller weights.

The heavyweight division will always matter the most.

Anyone who disagrees with me is an IDIOT!

PredatorHayds wrote:Fres Oquendo be undisputed champion by the end of the year if WBA had there way.

Oquendo won the right to his mandatory position in court. It wasn't a WBA decision.

It is very possible Oquendo will fight Lucas Browne in December.

Yeah it's awful. In my opinion, this division has the most potential out of all of them of the top guys start mixing it up. But sadly, all of the top 5 each have mitigating circumstances keeping them out of the ring at this point.

Jun Long Zhang did it again, KO win in 2 rounds...

Horse wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Only because IDIOTS keep saying so.

The fascination with heavyweights is a holdover from the time the only way to see a fight was to see a fight live. In person, size matters.
Watching fights on TV has removed that reality. Now these guys are slower/less-skilled guys on TV.

Boxing fans need to stop promoting this heavyweight garbage. Why make the worst quality product the face of your sport? IDIOTS.

The heavyweights are the biggest and toughest. They'd batter the fighters from the smaller weights.

The heavyweight division will always matter the most.

Anyone who disagrees with me is an IDIOT!

Are you quite well?

The heavyweight division consistently fails to deliver quality fights, which ultimately is what matters.

asdfjkl wrote:Jun Long Zhang did it again, KO win in 2 rounds...

280 pound out of shape fighter with limited skill

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Are you quite well?

The heavyweight division consistently fails to deliver quality fights, which ultimately is what matters.

The top heavyweights would beat the fighters from all of the other divisions in a fight and that is what matters.

The other divisions are just a bonus.

tiny_acres wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Jun Long Zhang did it again, KO win in 2 rounds...

280 pound out of shape fighter with limited skill

If the good boxers don't dare, this guy has to be taken serious at some point if he continues like this.
I really hope he gets the chance to step up, even if that means a lose for him, then at least he could show his limits.

*edit: I guess that should be 228 instead of 282, I can't imagine him gaining that much weight in such a short time actually.

Horse wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Are you quite well?

The heavyweight division consistently fails to deliver quality fights, which ultimately is what matters.

The top heavyweights would beat the fighters from all of the other divisions in a fight and that is what matters.

The other divisions are just a bonus.

So what if they'd beat them? What has that got to do with anything.

The top earning fighters of the last 10 years weren't heavyweights, so clearly not everyone shares your viewpoint.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:So what if they'd beat them? What has that got to do with anything.

The top earning fighters of the last 10 years weren't heavyweights, so clearly not everyone shares your viewpoint.

Heavyweights are the best fighters, so it is the division that matters most.

asdfjkl wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Jun Long Zhang did it again, KO win in 2 rounds...

280 pound out of shape fighter with limited skill

If the good boxers don't dare, this guy has to be taken serious at some point if he continues like this.
I really hope he gets the chance to step up, even if that means a lose for him, then at least he could show his limits.

*edit: I guess that should be 228 instead of 282, I can't imagine him gaining that much weight in such a short time actually.

He's been in the 270 range for a while.
He's just getting fatter

asdfjkl wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Jun Long Zhang did it again, KO win in 2 rounds...

280 pound out of shape fighter with limited skill

If the good boxers don't dare, this guy has to be taken serious at some point if he continues like this.
I really hope he gets the chance to step up, even if that means a lose for him, then at least he could show his limits.

*edit: I guess that should be 228 instead of 282, I can't imagine him gaining that much weight in such a short time actually.

He should fight Derric Rossy then we'll see how serious he is. If he blows Rossy away then he deserves a fight with a top 15/10 guy, buy not a world champion yet.

tiny_acres wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

tiny_acres wrote: 280 pound out of shape fighter with limited skill

If the good boxers don't dare, this guy has to be taken serious at some point if he continues like this.
I really hope he gets the chance to step up, even if that means a lose for him, then at least he could show his limits.

*edit: I guess that should be 228 instead of 282, I can't imagine him gaining that much weight in such a short time actually.

He's been in the 270 range for a while.
He's just getting fatter

Oh, lol, I assumed you spoke about his opponend, since it was obvious Jun Long Zhang has skills and isn't out off shape. For me, he has proved to be at least similar to Miller at this point.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Horse wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Are you quite well?

The heavyweight division consistently fails to deliver quality fights, which ultimately is what matters.

The top heavyweights would beat the fighters from all of the other divisions in a fight and that is what matters.

The other divisions are just a bonus.

So what if they'd beat them? What has that got to do with anything.

The top earning fighters of the last 10 years weren't heavyweights, so clearly not everyone shares your viewpoint.

Golf players earn a hell of a lot, while gymnasts barely earn anything at all. I'm still more impressed by gymnasts, and I think most people are, so money doesn't say it all, but what has that got to do with anything?

littlepug wrote:

Horse wrote:

littlepug wrote:Heavyweight division been dead for years its the least interesting division in the sport

The heavyweight division is always the most important division in boxing.

It should be but it isn't, it should be the poster division for the sport but its being overshadowed by the wealth of talent from the divisions below, only in Germany in recent years has there been a superstar heavyweight, every other country in the world however has had smaller guys having the star power, the heavyweights are floundering badly so its easy to get a bit excited when theres a sniff of something happening ala Joshua but we are still a way off the old days yet.

Wake up little pug! At this moment their is great spark in the division.