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I don't think anyone ever achieved this status since Mike Tyson. Kovalev has done alot in just a 2yr span making a name for himself. Regardless of

the Ward fight he's already, at least for me an ATG.

He's not.

Horse wrote:He's not.

He's a Russian ATG

not even close, the guys not really done anything remarkable yet and yes that includes hopkins

I don't think he's reached HOF or ATG status yet, but he's been the best Light Heavyweight out there for quite a few years now.

He's got HOF potential but needs to accomplish more at this point.

crusader wrote:He's got HOF potential but needs to accomplish more at this point.

I figure he ultimately will. Even if he loses to Andre Ward he'll still be a top fighter getting big wins for a while to come. If he beats Ward he's got his foot in the door already.

If he can defeat Andre Ward, he is definitely HoFamer. If he cant, then he need beat at least 2 top 10 oponents for HOF. Anyway, he have 3 LHW titles, beat some undefeated prospects, beating top guys in their homelands before hostile crowd that i like a lot. But for Hall of fame, you need do something more

I guess you fools ain't satisfied till you see a live death on HBO PPV at the hands of Krusher Ol' bloodthirsty ass n@ggas it's never enough

I haven't seen many ATG get dropped on their ass by feather fisted men who are not world class imagine the KO record holder Archie Moore who happened to be a Light Heavyweight Champion himself putting afew on the Krushers chin he needs to clean out the division 1st before we start calling him an ATG way way way too premature as of now

bnovelist wrote:I guess you fools ain't satisfied till you see a live death on HBO PPV at the hands of Krusher Ol' bloodthirsty ass n@ggas it's never enough

The Hall of Fame is a major accomplishment. It's supposed to be hard to achieve. Krusher isn't far from it, he just needs some more marquee wins. The Andre Ward fight were Kovalev to win because of the P4P standing of Andre Ward would go a long way in making Kovalev Hall of Fame material. Even if he doesn't beat Ward though, another title run or some more big wins could find him in the Hall anyhow.

The winner of Kovalev vs Ward probably punches their ticket to the Hall of Fame for sure, though there's a good chance Ward would already be going anyway.

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:I haven't seen many ATG get dropped on their ass by feather fisted men who are not world class imagine the KO record holder Archie Moore who happened to be a Light Heavyweight Champion himself putting afew on the Krushers chin he needs to clean out the division 1st before we start calling him an ATG way way way too premature as of now

Caparello stepped on his foot and he wasn't hurt at all. Bizarre and nonsensical to act like that has any impact on Kovalev's all-time standing.

crusader wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:I haven't seen many ATG get dropped on their ass by feather fisted men who are not world class imagine the KO record holder Archie Moore who happened to be a Light Heavyweight Champion himself putting afew on the Krushers chin he needs to clean out the division 1st before we start calling him an ATG way way way too premature as of now

Caparello stepped on his foot and he wasn't hurt at all. Bizarre and nonsensical to act like that has any impact on Kovalev's all-time standing.

I don't see any reason to ever make anything out of an obvious flash knockdown. I mean Kovalev got up and blasted the guy out of there in the very next round. It obviously wasn't a big deal.

gilgamesh wrote:

crusader wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:I haven't seen many ATG get dropped on their ass by feather fisted men who are not world class imagine the KO record holder Archie Moore who happened to be a Light Heavyweight Champion himself putting afew on the Krushers chin he needs to clean out the division 1st before we start calling him an ATG way way way too premature as of now

Caparello stepped on his foot and he wasn't hurt at all. Bizarre and nonsensical to act like that has any impact on Kovalev's all-time standing.

I don't see any reason to ever make anything out of an obvious flash knockdown. I mean Kovalev got up and blasted the guy out of there in the very next round. It obviously wasn't a big deal.

Who has he beat besides a ancient B-Hop.........I can remember in good detail every Light Heavyweight Champion since the early 80's guy's i'v watched at that time back when Michael Spinks was ruling the Division so when you compare him[Kovalev] to fighter's like Dwight Braxton/Eddie Mustafa Muhammad/Mathew Saad Muhammad/Marvin Johnson/Antonio Tarver/Virgil Hill/Thomas Adamek just to name afew who were top fighter's in their prime but just below the ATG's of this great sport would he [Kovalev] beat all of the fighter's just mentioned I doubt it these men were big name's at some point in their career's but all probably just fell short of ATG's Kovalev will be an HOF because he is an legit World Champion that's something no-one can dispute in the last 35 year's or so in my opinion Light Heavyweight's who deserve ATG status are fighter's like Roy Jones Jr Michael Spinks and B-Hop for doing what he did at that age when most thought he was crazy for even contemplating fighting a young hungry World Champ......................Krusher is no ATG at this point in time

Sergey Kovalev is certainly capable of becoming a Hall-of-Famer, but he's not there yet.

He can go a long way to silencing his doubters and earning "greatness" if he can unify and continue to rule the 175lb division for another couple of years, whilst scoring victories over the likes of: Andre Ward; Jurgen Brahmer; Adonis Stevenson; and Artur Beterbiev.

Enlightened-One wrote:Sergey Kovalev is certainly capable of becoming a Hall-of-Famer, but he's not there yet.

He can go a long way to silencing his doubters and earning "greatness" if he can unify and continue to rule the 175lb division for another couple of years, whilst scoring victories over the likes of: Andre Ward; Jurgen Brahmer; Adonis Stevenson; and Artur Beterbiev.

You are spot on if he defeats the 4 you mentioned and rules for 3/4 more year's he good join the elite of the sport

Just beating Ward will be enough to qualify for HOF.

I hear what you're saying but for me...my own personal opinion is that he's done enough to be already considered ATG status. He was the only

fighter to ever beat up Hopkins like that regardless of B-Hop being passed his prime. Still he never in his 20yr career took a beating like Krusher

handed out. I remember screaming for the ref to call it night in that final round not wanting to see Bernard fatally hurt. Then you factor in that

Krusher is trying to seek out the best, for him fighting the best means higher paydays, which means higher balance in his account when he checks

the online banking Monday morning

Krusher never tries to cherry pick either! Krusher ATG! F@ck GGG that cherry picker!

bnovelist wrote:Krusher never tries to cherry pick either! Krusher ATG! F@ck GGG that cherry picker!

Neither Kovalev nor GGG are locks for the HOF yet, but I believe they'll both get there certainly.

sure didnt look like an all time great when chilemba was bouncing those jabs off his head all night, its a basic requirement for someone with kovalovs style to be able to deal with the jab, thats all...

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:I haven't seen many ATG get dropped on their ass by feather fisted men who are not world class imagine the KO record holder Archie Moore who happened to be a Light Heavyweight Champion himself putting afew on the Krushers chin he needs to clean out the division 1st before we start calling him an ATG way way way too premature as of now

Muhammed Ali got knocked senseless by Euro level light-heavyweight Henry Cooper and only remained in the right thanks to cheating. Manny Pacquiao was KO'd by journeyman Rustico Torrecampo.

Your point is a stupid one.

Ya, and speaking of jabs too, Manny nearly got KO'd by one (about 40 seconds in) after he'd already won world titles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPVr3qvvsAg

tigermoth87 wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:I haven't seen many ATG get dropped on their ass by feather fisted men who are not world class imagine the KO record holder Archie Moore who happened to be a Light Heavyweight Champion himself putting afew on the Krushers chin he needs to clean out the division 1st before we start calling him an ATG way way way too premature as of now

Muhammed Ali got knocked senseless by Euro level light-heavyweight Henry Cooper and only remained in the right thanks to cheating. Manny Pacquiao was KO'd by journeyman Rustico Torrecampo.
Your point is a stupid one.[/quote


Your the STUPID one you goose Caparello aint no Henry Cooper ho Yare we will see where Kovalev belongs when he gets wipped by Ward..............Thanking you STUPID.............Cappa on par with Henry you goose

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

tigermoth87 wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:I haven't seen many ATG get dropped on their ass by feather fisted men who are not world class imagine the KO record holder Archie Moore who happened to be a Light Heavyweight Champion himself putting afew on the Krushers chin he needs to clean out the division 1st before we start calling him an ATG way way way too premature as of now

Muhammed Ali got knocked senseless by Euro level light-heavyweight Henry Cooper and only remained in the right thanks to cheating. Manny Pacquiao was KO'd by journeyman Rustico Torrecampo.
Your point is a stupid one.[/quote


Your the STUPID one you goose Caparello aint no Henry Cooper ho Yare we will see where Kovalev belongs when he gets wipped by Ward..............Thanking you STUPID.............Cappa on par with Henry you goose

Never said he was on par, boy, learn to read

Nice job ignoring Pacman getting KO'd by Torrecampo though, son.