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It's hard to imagine you could have a wider gulf in class inside the same ring. This is brutal.

Still trying to find the fight. - I have HBO, but for some reason I think they're showing a Real Sex episode

Jim Lampley and Max Kellerman might as well be blowing Andre Ward. They seem like little school girls everytime he throws a jab

I particularly liked in the first Round , how max remarked how sharp Ward looks tonight -at a point he'd thrown 3 and landed 1 punch

Watching this, I find myself wondering how Brand made it this far. His punches look amateur at best.

Brand looks like Kirkland when he fought Canelo- he looks like he throwing in slow motion - brand has nothing on them as well- time for Ward to step on the gas and end it

To me Brand just looks like they got some hard man with a good chin from the local pub who has never had a boxing lesson in his life. I don't believe he would have lasted 3 rnds with KOV.

Brand being told by his corner every round to be cautious. Obviously there to survive. Not win.

Nightmare Roy wrote:To me Brand just looks like they got some hard man with a good chin from the local pub who has never had a boxing lesson in his life. I don't believe he would have lasted 3 rnds with KOV.

yeah, he would be done within 4, so off balance too

If the runours are true that Brand is only getting $30,000 for this are true, it's an absolute disgrace.

The only good thing about that fight was the Corona ring card girls, I'd drag my balls through a mile of glass to get 5 miniutes with those 2.

Nightmare Roy wrote:To me Brand just looks like they got some hard man with a good chin from the local pub who has never had a boxing lesson in his life. I don't believe he would have lasted 3 rnds with KOV.

Brand obviously knows how to defend himself. Kovalev would have a hard time knocking him out. But Brand wasn't landing any good punches on Ward -- and he did on everybody else he fought. His only other name opponent was Badou Jack in his 18th fight. Jack had 10 fights and won a SD.. Nobody has come close to stopping Brand. If you want to sharpen up your boxing skills with 12 rounds against a very good defender, both Ward and Kovalev had good opponents. Good defense - no offense. About what you want if you're looking past your opponent to a multimillion dollar payday.

Kalan wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:To me Brand just looks like they got some hard man with a good chin from the local pub who has never had a boxing lesson in his life. I don't believe he would have lasted 3 rnds with KOV.

Brand obviously knows how to defend himself. Kovalev would have a hard time knocking him out. But Brand wasn't landing any good punches on Ward -- and he did on everybody else he fought. His only other name opponent was Badou Jack in his 18th fight. Jack had 10 fights and won a SD.. Nobody has come close to stopping Brand. If you want to sharpen up your boxing skills with 12 rounds against a very good defender, both Ward and Kovalev had good opponents. Good defense - no offense. About what you want if you're looking past your opponent to a multimillion dollar payday.

Kovalev would've knocked Brand out within 3 rounds.

Nightmare Roy wrote:To me Brand just looks like they got some hard man with a good chin from the local pub who has never had a boxing lesson in his life. I don't believe he would have lasted 3 rnds with KOV.

Too bad for Kovalev he won't be fighting Brand. He'll be in store for a 12 round boxing lesson from Ward instead.

gilgamesh wrote:

Kalan wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:To me Brand just looks like they got some hard man with a good chin from the local pub who has never had a boxing lesson in his life. I don't believe he would have lasted 3 rnds with KOV.

Brand obviously knows how to defend himself. Kovalev would have a hard time knocking him out. But Brand wasn't landing any good punches on Ward -- and he did on everybody else he fought. His only other name opponent was Badou Jack in his 18th fight. Jack had 10 fights and won a SD.. Nobody has come close to stopping Brand. If you want to sharpen up your boxing skills with 12 rounds against a very good defender, both Ward and Kovalev had good opponents. Good defense - no offense. About what you want if you're looking past your opponent to a multimillion dollar payday.

Kovalev would've knocked Brand out within 3 rounds.

I'll say it again. Kovalev won't be fighting Brand, who cares what he'd have done to Brand. He's fighting Andre fornicating Ward, a master boxer. Kovalevs power will mean little against Ward and Kovalev like all the others will have few answers for Ward.

What Kovalev would do to Brand means nothing. The question is what will Kovalev be able to do to Ward? The more I think about this fight the less I like Kovalev's chances. You just get the feeling Ward will come up with a varied gameplan of altering tactics to slow down and confuse Sergey. This is what I expect. Can't wait to see the fight.

NateJR wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Kalan wrote:
Brand obviously knows how to defend himself. Kovalev would have a hard time knocking him out. But Brand wasn't landing any good punches on Ward -- and he did on everybody else he fought. His only other name opponent was Badou Jack in his 18th fight. Jack had 10 fights and won a SD.. Nobody has come close to stopping Brand. If you want to sharpen up your boxing skills with 12 rounds against a very good defender, both Ward and Kovalev had good opponents. Good defense - no offense. About what you want if you're looking past your opponent to a multimillion dollar payday.

Kovalev would've knocked Brand out within 3 rounds.

I'll say it again. Kovalev won't be fighting Brand, who cares what he'd have done to Brand. He's fighting Andre effing Ward, a master boxer. Kovalevs power will mean little against Ward and Kovalev like all the others will have few answers for Ward.

Kovalev can win a decision against Ward. He's more aggressive than him. Judges favor aggression.

Ward is very much like Floyd inside the ropes. Opponents just have no idea what kind of guy they're up against until they're inside the ring trying to solve the riddle. The riddle is fast moving and smart. If it were one or the other it would be solvable. This is the problem.

diddy wrote:Ward is very much like Floyd inside the ropes. Opponents just have no idea what kind of guy they're up against until they're inside the ring trying to solve the riddle. The riddle is fast moving and smart. If it were one or the other it would be solvable. This is the problem.

The riddle of Floyd really wasn't that complicated it's just that a lot of fighters fought him like a f*cking idiot. The riddle to Floyd was this. ATTACK HIM! ATTACK HIM RELENTLESSLY!!! It seemed like everybody got in the ring and thought they could outbox Floyd. Making damn near everybody that ever fought Floyd a strategic dumbass.

gilgamesh wrote:

NateJR wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Kovalev would've knocked Brand out within 3 rounds.

I'll say it again. Kovalev won't be fighting Brand, who cares what he'd have done to Brand. He's fighting Andre effing Ward, a master boxer. Kovalevs power will mean little against Ward and Kovalev like all the others will have few answers for Ward.

Kovalev can win a decision against Ward. He's more aggressive than him. Judges favor aggression.

Against previous opponents yes, he was more aggressive. Ward is on a different level, he will neutralize alot of Kovalevs offense and I would be shocked if Kovalev beats Ward by a decision.

I'm telling you right now, Kovalev needs a knock out to beat Ward. Not because of shady judging, not because of the referee, but because Ward is the more skilled fighter, has more in his arsenal and more ways to win.

NateJR wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

NateJR wrote:
I'll say it again. Kovalev won't be fighting Brand, who cares what he'd have done to Brand. He's fighting Andre effing Ward, a master boxer. Kovalevs power will mean little against Ward and Kovalev like all the others will have few answers for Ward.

Kovalev can win a decision against Ward. He's more aggressive than him. Judges favor aggression.

Against previous opponents yes, he was more aggressive. Ward is on a different level, he will neutralize alot of Kovalevs offense and I would be shocked if Kovalev beats Ward by a decision.

I'm telling you right now, Kovalev needs a knock out to beat Ward. Not because of shady judging, not because of the referee, but because Ward is the more skilled fighter, has more in his arsenal and more ways to win.

I could easily see that being the possibility in the fight, but also Ward hasn't faced a puncher like Kovalev

gilgamesh wrote:

diddy wrote:Ward is very much like Floyd inside the ropes. Opponents just have no idea what kind of guy they're up against until they're inside the ring trying to solve the riddle. The riddle is fast moving and smart. If it were one or the other it would be solvable. This is the problem.

The riddle of Floyd really wasn't that complicated it's just that a lot of fighters fought him like a f*cking idiot. The riddle to Floyd was this. ATTACK HIM! ATTACK HIM RELENTLESSLY!!! It seemed like everybody got in the ring and thought they could outbox Floyd. Making damn near everybody that ever fought Floyd a strategic dumbass.

has it ever occurred to you it's not as easy as it sounds? This post is so laughable and ignorant, I can't help myself. the people who post on here these days SMH.

gilgamesh wrote:

diddy wrote:Ward is very much like Floyd inside the ropes. Opponents just have no idea what kind of guy they're up against until they're inside the ring trying to solve the riddle. The riddle is fast moving and smart. If it were one or the other it would be solvable. This is the problem.

The riddle of Floyd really wasn't that complicated it's just that a lot of fighters fought him like a f*cking idiot. The riddle to Floyd was this. ATTACK HIM! ATTACK HIM RELENTLESSLY!!! It seemed like everybody got in the ring and thought they could outbox Floyd. Making damn near everybody that ever fought Floyd a strategic dumbass.

Oh ok so it's that easy then? Manny Pacquaio is pretty good, no? He rendered him useless. Why? Floyd is so sharp and precise with his counters and so defensive it made even the great Pacquaio think once, twice, three times before getting aggressive. Next thing you know you have reset and start all over again.

NateJR wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

diddy wrote:Ward is very much like Floyd inside the ropes. Opponents just have no idea what kind of guy they're up against until they're inside the ring trying to solve the riddle. The riddle is fast moving and smart. If it were one or the other it would be solvable. This is the problem.

The riddle of Floyd really wasn't that complicated it's just that a lot of fighters fought him like a f*cking idiot. The riddle to Floyd was this. ATTACK HIM! ATTACK HIM RELENTLESSLY!!! It seemed like everybody got in the ring and thought they could outbox Floyd. Making damn near everybody that ever fought Floyd a strategic dumbass.

has it ever occurred to you it's not as easy as it sounds? This post is so laughable and ignorant, I can't help myself. the people who post on here these days SMH.

That really is a silly comment he made. And from a guy who usually doesn't do that sort of thing. Ordinarily one of the better posters here. Ridiculous commentary.

gilgamesh wrote:

NateJR wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Kovalev can win a decision against Ward. He's more aggressive than him. Judges favor aggression.

Against previous opponents yes, he was more aggressive. Ward is on a different level, he will neutralize alot of Kovalevs offense and I would be shocked if Kovalev beats Ward by a decision.

I'm telling you right now, Kovalev needs a knock out to beat Ward. Not because of shady judging, not because of the referee, but because Ward is the more skilled fighter, has more in his arsenal and more ways to win.

I could easily see that being the possibility in the fight, but also Ward hasn't faced a puncher like Kovalev

So Kovalev has a puncher chance. I mean I can see maybe Kovalev catching Ward early, but man to rely on winning a fight with a big punch against a guy as skilled as Ward. I think Ward by decision is easy money.

Speed of hand and foot. Master of distance. Master of timing. Crisp, precise counter punching. The art of tying up at the right moment to negate the offense of your opponent. These are the things Floyd and Ward excel at.

NateJR wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

diddy wrote:Ward is very much like Floyd inside the ropes. Opponents just have no idea what kind of guy they're up against until they're inside the ring trying to solve the riddle. The riddle is fast moving and smart. If it were one or the other it would be solvable. This is the problem.

The riddle of Floyd really wasn't that complicated it's just that a lot of fighters fought him like a f*cking idiot. The riddle to Floyd was this. ATTACK HIM! ATTACK HIM RELENTLESSLY!!! It seemed like everybody got in the ring and thought they could outbox Floyd. Making damn near everybody that ever fought Floyd a strategic dumbass.

has it ever occurred to you it's not as easy as it sounds? This post is so laughable and ignorant, I can't help myself. the people who post on here these days SMH.

Of course it's not as easy as it sounds. Floyd is a master counter puncher, but there were guys who attacked him who had strong success against him. I'm #4 in the PTBF so don't act like I don't know Boxing.