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Just noticed Angelo Dundee is in Rodrigues' corner.

When did he get together with George?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRHo13xjrXc

Amazing left hook at 9:11

If he had some hair still and a mustache,that would look like the George Foreman of 1976 still at 8:21.
When do you think George Foreman peaked in his comeback ?
IMOP it was a little before his fight with Evander Holyfield for the title(s).

Caractacus wrote:If he had some hair still and a mustache,that would look like the George Foreman of 1976 still at 8:21.
When do you think George Foreman peaked in his comeback ?
IMOP it was a little before his fight with Evander Holyfield for the title(s).

Point well taken -- I wonder what he was gesturing at there?

Textbook is right: just look at how Foreman twists his hips into that left hook!

Angelo Dundee became Foreman's trainer beginning in early 1991 with the fight with Evander Holyfield
(replacing Archie Moore)

Caractacus wrote:Angelo Dundee became Foreman's trainer beginning in early 1991 with the fight with Evander Holyfield
(replacing Archie Moore)

George asked angelo to train him at time of the Rodrigues match...I think they shared a flight somewhere and discussed. George wanted angelo for his little bag of tricks

evrenb wrote:

Caractacus wrote:Angelo Dundee became Foreman's trainer beginning in early 1991 with the fight with Evander Holyfield
(replacing Archie Moore)

George asked angelo to train him at time of the Rodrigues match...I think they shared a flight somewhere and discussed. George wanted angelo for his little bag of tricks

Thank you!

Technique-wise, comeback Foreman was massively improved from his younger days. He became much more intelligent and developed a much cleaner, sharper jab. Just think, if he would've had that technique when he was younger, how unstoppable he would have become.

jbizzle20 wrote:Technique-wise, comeback Foreman was massively improved from his younger days. He became much more intelligent and developed a much cleaner, sharper jab. Just think, if he would've had that technique when he was younger, how unstoppable he would have become.

He was certainly more relaxed... His style was more controlled and focused. He was still immensely strong and powerful. The Early George had the spirit of youth, that enthusiasm. I feel he always had a good jab. I cite the first Frazier fight where he used it very effectively.
The comeback George I view as a slower, more controlled version of the 'gil clancy Foreman '; where gil tried to focus on the jab and tried to shorten Foreman's swinging punches. You notice the Foreman matches post Zaire lasted longer than the earlier efforts..
I never thought that George had low stamina. Most fighters that threw that many punches with that much force would be blowing hard after a few rounds..

I have great memories of that fight because I was in Vegas and put a sheet load of $$$ on Foreman. The people in front of me thought the heat would get to George which really started to worry me until that great combo in the 2nd round.

I wasn't as lucky on my Tyson-Stewart bet, (They fought on the same card) as I stupidly thought Stewart would last 3 rounds.

Tony1244 wrote:I have great memories of that fight because I was in Vegas and put a sheet load of $$$ on Foreman. The people in front of me thought the heat would get to George which really started to worry me until that great combo in the 2nd round.

I wasn't as lucky on my Tyson-Stewart bet, (They fought on the same card) as I stupidly thought Stewart would last 3 rounds.

I always remember it as being on the undercard of Tyson vs tillman.. Funny how time plays with your memories... Well done with your bet. The next time you have a tip let me know as I could use it at the moment

evrenb wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:I have great memories of that fight because I was in Vegas and put a sheet load of $$$ on Foreman. The people in front of me thought the heat would get to George which really started to worry me until that great combo in the 2nd round.

I wasn't as lucky on my Tyson-Stewart bet, (They fought on the same card) as I stupidly thought Stewart would last 3 rounds.

I always remember it as being on the undercard of Tyson vs tillman.. Funny how time plays with your memories... Well done with your bet. The next time you have a tip let me know as I could use it at the moment

You're right. It was Tillman. He beat Tyson in the amateurs. I had a brain fart. I inserted the wrong guy.

evrenb wrote:

jbizzle20 wrote:Technique-wise, comeback Foreman was massively improved from his younger days. He became much more intelligent and developed a much cleaner, sharper jab. Just think, if he would've had that technique when he was younger, how unstoppable he would have become.

He was certainly more relaxed... His style was more controlled and focused. He was still immensely strong and powerful. The Early George had the spirit of youth, that enthusiasm. I feel he always had a good jab. I cite the first Frazier fight where he used it very effectively.
The comeback George I view as a slower, more controlled version of the 'gil clancy Foreman '; where gil tried to focus on the jab and tried to shorten Foreman's swinging punches. You notice the Foreman matches post Zaire lasted longer than the earlier efforts..
I never thought that George had low stamina. Most fighters that threw that many punches with that much force would be blowing hard after a few rounds..

Yeah, the short, snapping strikes made a big difference. Teddy Atlas noticed how the mature Foreman then used those short lefts to hide that power right. Foreman stopped being so obvious and wasting his punches like against Ali. Foreman could've complained about drugging all he wanted but he just wasted so many punches against Ali. He practically knocked himself out. It wasn't called rope-a-dope for nothing. Against Frazier, Foreman seemed more power/pressure oriented. Frazier got overwhelmed and failed to adjust. From then on, Foreman just blitzed him with power shots. Frazier didn't see the weakness that Ali saw.