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Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 00:34
by Wales
Should Nicola Adams be regarded as one of best UK amateur boxers of all time? Wouldn't bet against her winning a second gold in Rio.

Anyone know her record?

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Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 00:39
by crusader
One of the best UK female amateurs, no doubt, but the men still have to deal with a far bigger, more globally developed talent pool. I'm not sure that winning an Olympic gold in women's boxing is generally reflective of more ability than a man simply qualifying for the Olympics.

Incidentally, in many cases this Olympics female boxers merely need to win once, and against unseeded opponents, to medal. Compare that to someone like Sofiane Oumiha needing to beat a Cuban, a former pro world champ, and the world number two to do the same.

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 01:45
by ChessBoxer
I have a wee thing for her like ;-) seen her talking in an interview but i think she is taken very down to earth. Plus she would batter me about if the housework wasnt upto scratch.

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 03:03
by Rexob
crusader wrote:One of the best UK female amateurs, no doubt, but the men still have to deal with a far bigger, more globally developed talent pool. I'm not sure that winning an Olympic gold in women's boxing is generally reflective of more ability than a man simply qualifying for the Olympics.

Incidentally, in many cases this Olympics female boxers merely need to win once, and against unseeded opponents, to medal. Compare that to someone like Sofiane Oumiha needing to beat a Cuban, a former pro world champ, and the world number two to do the same.

This. :TU:
Womans boxing is a 100 years behind the men's, far less talent and competitors. Good luck to Adams though she is there and doing it, so deserves the acclaim, you can only beat who is in front of you. :TU:

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 08:16
by Stuarty
ChessBoxer wrote:I have a wee thing for her like ;-) seen her talking in an interview but i think she is taken very down to earth. Plus she would batter me about if the housework wasnt upto scratch.
Aye she's quite jolly and comes across a nice girl. Feck getting caught cheating on her though :KO:

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 08:54
by BrackaBarclay
At London 2012, it made me cringe every time I heard some commentator say 'she's better than some of the men / male medalists here!!!"

No she isn't. Barring the strength advantages of being a man, the quality of her boxing is good, but about the level of a decent quality male club boxer.

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 09:13
by chiggsy
ChessBoxer wrote:I have a wee thing for her like ;-) seen her talking in an interview but i think she is taken very down to earth. Plus she would batter me about if the housework wasnt upto scratch.
You would't get that far,she's a carpet muncher.

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 10:57
by ThereByTheGrace
BrackaBarclay wrote:At London 2012, it made me cringe every time I heard some commentator say 'she's better than some of the men / male medalists here!!!"

No she isn't. Barring the strength advantages of being a man, the quality of her boxing is good, but about the level of a decent quality male club boxer.
Agreed. Different levels completely, shame she gets more attention than most of the male boxers because its not the same

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 11:54
by Sklar
I like her a lot. She's a great ambassador for the sport as a whole and lesbians, many of whom are fat knackers with bad attitudes. Nicola is nice but extremely focussed on what she does. One of our best.

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 12:23
by bripez
Sklar wrote:I like her a lot. She's a great ambassador for the sport as a whole and lesbians, many of whom are fat knackers with bad attitudes. Nicola is nice but extremely focussed on what she does. One of our best.
Ha ha that's true - in real life lezzers don't look like they do in "films" !

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 13:58
by chiggsy
bripez wrote:
Sklar wrote:I like her a lot. She's a great ambassador for the sport as a whole and lesbians, many of whom are fat knackers with bad attitudes. Nicola is nice but extremely focussed on what she does. One of our best.
Ha ha that's true - in real life lezzers don't look like they do in "films" !
Clare balding,now there's a REAL lezza.

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 14:22
by bripez
chiggsy wrote:
bripez wrote:
Sklar wrote:I like her a lot. She's a great ambassador for the sport as a whole and lesbians, many of whom are fat knackers with bad attitudes. Nicola is nice but extremely focussed on what she does. One of our best.
Ha ha that's true - in real life lezzers don't look like they do in "films" !
Clare balding,now there's a REAL lezza.
Yes, she is a real lezzer - she looks like Eddie Izzard with less makeup or Ricky Hatton with a better haircut !

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 14:31
by chiggsy
bripez wrote:
chiggsy wrote:
bripez wrote:
Ha ha that's true - in real life lezzers don't look like they do in "films" !
Clare balding,now there's a REAL lezza.
Yes, she is a real lezzer - she looks like Eddie Izzard with less makeup or Ricky Hatton with a better haircut !
With a bit of mid to late 30's allegedly thrown in too.

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 14:32
by chiggsy
chiggsy wrote:
bripez wrote:
chiggsy wrote:
Clare balding,now there's a REAL lezza.
Yes, she is a real lezzer - she looks like Eddie Izzard with less makeup or Ricky Hatton with a better haircut !
With a bit of mid to late 30's allegedly thrown in too.
Christ can you still not say the other british promoters name on here :lol:

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 14:33
by Rexob
chiggsy wrote:
chiggsy wrote:
bripez wrote:
Yes, she is a real lezzer - she looks like Eddie Izzard with less makeup or Ricky Hatton with a better haircut !
With a bit of mid to late 30's allegedly thrown in too.
Christ can you still not say the other british promoters name on here :lol:

allegedly.

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 14:36
by Stuarty
chiggsy wrote:
bripez wrote:
Sklar wrote:I like her a lot. She's a great ambassador for the sport as a whole and lesbians, many of whom are fat knackers with bad attitudes. Nicola is nice but extremely focussed on what she does. One of our best.
Ha ha that's true - in real life lezzers don't look like they do in "films" !
Clare balding,now there's a REAL lezza.
Mans loss is woman's gain there! Sexy big bitch that she is :yay:

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 14:38
by Stuarty
I think she looks like the little fella from different strokes. 'what you talkin bout Willis'

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 14:46
by Boxerbeetle
bripez wrote:
chiggsy wrote:
bripez wrote:
Ha ha that's true - in real life lezzers don't look like they do in "films" !
Clare balding,now there's a REAL lezza.
Yes, she is a real lezzer - she looks like Eddie Izzard with less makeup or Ricky Hatton with a better haircut !
Hmmm, would you rather... :o

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 14:51
by lillywhite14
ThereByTheGrace wrote:
BrackaBarclay wrote:At London 2012, it made me cringe every time I heard some commentator say 'she's better than some of the men / male medalists here!!!"

No she isn't. Barring the strength advantages of being a man, the quality of her boxing is good, but about the level of a decent quality male club boxer.
Agreed. Different levels completely, shame she gets more attention than most of the male boxers because its not the same
She gets attention because she's unique I guess. She's a bigger story than the GB male boxers in the main because she's Olympic champ and most of the male GB squad are not even top 7/8 in their weight division.

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 15:56
by bripez
lillywhite14 wrote:
ThereByTheGrace wrote:
BrackaBarclay wrote:At London 2012, it made me cringe every time I heard some commentator say 'she's better than some of the men / male medalists here!!!"

No she isn't. Barring the strength advantages of being a man, the quality of her boxing is good, but about the level of a decent quality male club boxer.
Agreed. Different levels completely, shame she gets more attention than most of the male boxers because its not the same
She gets attention because she's unique I guess. She's a bigger story than the GB male boxers in the main because she's Olympic champ and most of the male GB squad are not even top 7/8 in their weight division.
To be fair mate she is very talented (it's not her fault there are fewer female boxers) works really hard, she seems a nice person, is really media friendly and has a great back story - what's not to like?

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 16:29
by ThereByTheGrace
I guess I have zero interest in women's boxing and its not something I really care about. More press for Adams is less press for another amateur boxer who operates at a higher and more credible level

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 19:10
by Counter-puncher
I saw three or four women's bouts, I was pleasantly surprised. I wouldn't say it was good, but it wasn't bad.

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 14 Aug 2016, 07:11
by lillywhite14
Surely saying Adas isn't one of the UK's best amateurs is like saying Laura Trott isn't one of the UK's best ever cyclists.

Adams looks average compared to her male counterparts but I'm sure Trott would get effing smashed by the UK male cyclists in a race!

Re: Nicola Adams , one of best UK amateurs? or...

Posted: 14 Aug 2016, 07:34
by Oiky
One of the greatest female amateurs yes :box: