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Who wins this one? Damn....both are monsters I have no idea it's a pick em. Who beats up who?

For me this is the biggest 50:50 fight out there. I think they possess the same amount of punching power. Think Joshua is a bit more tidy technique wise. They both move really well.

I think one of the defining factors is largely unknown, and that is Joshua's chin. We know Wilder can absorb a few punches, and has never been dropped (to my knowledge).

My verdict is this one goes the distance. To who, will depend on who performs on the day. Wilder has a tendency to find the win even when he's under performing. Just don't know - I'm so on the fence!

At any other weight division, based on their combined skill, this fight would be under card material.

Superfight

I think they're both at the point, espeicially Joshua, where if they lose it'll more be considred them getting exposed than a great feat to beat them.

Wilder will never be brave enough to fight Joshua.

Easy win for Joshua, Wilder doesn't even deserve a fight like this yet, Wilder is just a little further as Jun Long Zhang and his belt should been taken away from him right now. Povetkin has better chances against AJ, but would probably lose badly as well.

For me, Tyson Fury is the only one who has a chance against AJ.

Joshua wins because he knows how to accurately place a power shot and doesn't just wing shots hoping for the best. I'd expect Joshua would win once he connects with just a few big power shots, but they'd both probably be cautious in the early going.

Wilder has done nothing to suggest he is anything more than another Liston. A big gorilla with little technique. Joshua would dissect him, badly. This won't happen anyway because Haymon won't allow it.

jbizzle20 wrote:Wilder has done nothing to suggest he is anything more than another Liston. A big gorilla with little technique. Joshua would dissect him, badly. This won't happen anyway because Haymon won't allow it.

I hate to comment on one of this trolls threads but Sonny Liston being a big gorilla with no technique ? What has happen to the current scene? Where are the mods?

Joshua.

Hes just a better boxer and better than anyone Wilder has fought so far.

asdfjkl wrote:Easy win for Joshua, Wilder doesn't even deserve a fight like this yet, Wilder is just a little further as Jun Long Zhang and his belt should been taken away from him right now. Povetkin has better chances against AJ, but would probably lose badly as well.

For me, Tyson Fury is the only one who has a chance against AJ.

Haha, you been taking trolling lessons off Horse?

asdfjkl wrote:Easy win for Joshua, Wilder doesn't even deserve a fight like this yet, Wilder is just a little further as Jun Long Zhang and his belt should been taken away from him right now. Povetkin has better chances against AJ, but would probably lose badly as well.

For me, Tyson Fury is the only one who has a chance against AJ.

Even Wilder's last win is far better than anyone Jun Long Zhang has fought.

Wilder would leave Joshua lying flat on his face worse than David Price. What will Joshua do when he can't overwhelm his opponent with his physical gifts and he is at a disadvantage in reach? Wilder may be awkward but his style is not unsophisticated. That knockout against Szpillka came from walking his opponent into a well timed counterpunch. I have not yet seen Joshua even try to execute something more skilled than a pawing jab and a one, two straight right. Joshua will probably fight Gerald Washington next and run from Parker.

marvelous marv wrote:Wilder would leave Joshua lying flat on his face worse than David Price. What will Joshua do when he can't overwhelm his opponent with his physical gifts and he is at a disadvantage in reach? Wilder may be awkward but his style is not unsophisticated. That knockout against Szpillka came from walking his opponent into a well timed counterpunch. I have not yet seen Joshua even try to execute something more skilled than a pawing jab and a one, two straight right. Joshua will probably fight Gerald Washington next and run from Parker.

Come on mate your selling Joshua short there. I've seen Joshua combo up...even to the body and counter left hook not just jab. Yes the target was stationary but that's that makes this an intriguing match up. Wilder had superior speed, if he is able to move his feet as fast as his hands he'll give Joshua trouble.

Joshua is one of the best combination punchers at HW.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:At any other weight division, based on their combined skill, this fight would be under card material.

Superfight

no. this is maybe not a superfight, but
a very solid matchup that would trigger
tons of interest.

not an easy fight against an undefeated
knockout artist, but in the end joshua
wins due to more solid boxing technique
as old fashioned as this might sound. to
me wilder is off balance too often against
mediocre opposition and he won't get
away with that when facing a technically
solid fighter that is on par with him in
terms of strength.

I don't think we have seen the best from either guy yet. They are both obviously big punchers, and would be a great fight to watch. Imo, either guy beats Fury. I still scratch my head how well some talk about Fury after his pathetic performance vs Wlad. He won, yes, but only because Wlad performed worse than he ever had. Fury did what he had to in order to win, but it was still pathetic as far as boxing goes and punch stats.

If Ortiz gets a shot at Fury (if Fury beats Wlad again), I would favor him to beat him. Wilder vs Joshua is about 1.5 or 2 years away I am guessing.

Badhusker wrote:I don't think we have seen the best from either guy yet. They are both obviously big punchers, and would be a great fight to watch. Imo, either guy beats Fury. I still scratch my head how well some talk about Fury after his pathetic performance vs Wlad. He won, yes, but only because Wlad performed worse than he ever had. Fury did what he had to in order to win, but it was still pathetic as far as boxing goes and punch stats.

If Ortiz gets a shot at Fury (if Fury beats Wlad again), I would favor him to beat him. Wilder vs Joshua is about 1.5 or 2 years away I am guessing.

agree on everything and i share your
view that both wilder and joshua will
milk their titles for a few more bouts
before they unify and i for one cannot
really blame them.

Joshua - he has far sounder technique, and is not as wide open as Wilder, who tends to whale away with both arms by his sides when in full offence.

I will always favour the guy who tends toward straighter punches in this sort of scenario.

BitPlayer wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Easy win for Joshua, Wilder doesn't even deserve a fight like this yet, Wilder is just a little further as Jun Long Zhang and his belt should been taken away from him right now. Povetkin has better chances against AJ, but would probably lose badly as well.

For me, Tyson Fury is the only one who has a chance against AJ.

Even Wilder's last win is far better than anyone Jun Long Zhang has fought.

They both fought Jason Gavern, here you can see Wilder his performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPeYplT2qPU

Jun Long Zhang performed a lot better, he showed similar results as AJ actually.

jbizzle20 wrote:Wilder has done nothing to suggest he is anything more than another Liston. A big gorilla with little technique. Joshua would dissect him, badly. This won't happen anyway because Haymon won't allow it.

Just another Liston? Wilder isn't half the fighter Liston was

The End wrote:

jbizzle20 wrote:Wilder has done nothing to suggest he is anything more than another Liston. A big gorilla with little technique. Joshua would dissect him, badly. This won't happen anyway because Haymon won't allow it.

I hate to comment on one of this trolls threads but Sonny Liston being a big gorilla with no technique ? What has happen to the current scene? Where are the mods?

Yes, I'm not terribly impressed with with Liston's intelligence and tech. He also had hands of stone, in that they could pack a wallop but were slow. Ali exploited that, badly. With that said, however, I still find Liston to be a better fighter than Wilder.

jbizzle20 wrote:

The End wrote:

jbizzle20 wrote:Wilder has done nothing to suggest he is anything more than another Liston. A big gorilla with little technique. Joshua would dissect him, badly. This won't happen anyway because Haymon won't allow it.

I hate to comment on one of this trolls threads but Sonny Liston being a big gorilla with no technique ? What has happen to the current scene? Where are the mods?

Yes, I'm not terribly impressed with with Liston's intelligence and tech. He also had hands of stone, in that they could pack a wallop but were slow. Ali exploited that, badly. With that said, however, I still find Liston to be a better fighter than Wilder.

I would sure hope so because he was so much better there's absolutely no comparison between the two. Liston's name always comes up when all time great Heavyweight jabs are mentioned.

gilgamesh wrote:

jbizzle20 wrote:

The End wrote: I hate to comment on one of this trolls threads but Sonny Liston being a big gorilla with no technique ? What has happen to the current scene? Where are the mods?

Yes, I'm not terribly impressed with with Liston's intelligence and tech. He also had hands of stone, in that they could pack a wallop but were slow. Ali exploited that, badly. With that said, however, I still find Liston to be a better fighter than Wilder.

I would sure hope so because he was so much better there's absolutely no comparison between the two. Liston's name always comes up when all time great Heavyweight jabs are mentioned.

Yes, the use of a jab is a big reason why Liston's better. Wilder can't seem to throw a jab to save his life.