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Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 22:49
by Ilya Muromets
Wilder - Scott
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jws9K_RTCy4
Watch Scott's head especially in slow motion. It didn't even move as it would have if anything landed. Even the announcers went as far as they could go without losing their jobs.
Next we can discuss David Haye's two comeback "fights" and also his "fight" against Harrison.
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 23:51
by victor-romeo
I like your series , Al Bernstein says "That right hand didn't land perfectly" priceless, did it land at all?
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 23:59
by DA GOOSE
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 00:30
by Ilya Muromets
DA GOOSE wrote:Green vs Briggs
Jeez was that a ridiculous dive or did the guy have some medical problem that caused him to fall down like that? It was so absurd. When you take a dive the objective is to try to fool the spectators not make them laugh or yell and throw stuff. Did you hear Green go off on him, and they said they were friends before? It isn't as if Briggs was some bum off the streets either. He had two very close losses to Adamek. He had been retired from boxing though.
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 00:35
by Ilya Muromets
Ray Edwards vs Nick Capes. I'm not sure about this one. It may or may not have been fake. Actually, kidding aside, this one is my favorite.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ereo4TEk9r8
Parker vs Tipou???
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 02:19
by bigman1968
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 02:33
by bigman1968
x2x wrote:Wilder - Scott
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jws9K_RTCy4
Watch Scott's head especially in slow motion. It didn't even move as it would have if anything landed. Even the announcers went as far as they could go without losing their jobs.
Next we can discuss David Haye's two comeback "fights" and also his "fight" against Harrison.
Scott is a terrible diver
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 02:35
by Woldemar
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 02:55
by Boxing Writer
This is by far my favorite dive in boxing history, I couldn't stop laughing when I saw it for the first time. But now I start thinking it might be a real KO, because Nick Capes looks so bad that it seems he can be actually knocked out by a breath of the wind
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 10:11
by Ilya Muromets
victor-romeo wrote: I like your series , Al Bernstein says "That right hand didn't land perfectly" priceless, did it land at all?
Announcers:
The announcer totally ignored the "knockout" and just kept on talking.
"The right hand looked like it didnt land clean"
"At least Scott didn't come here to fall down."
Ha ha ha!
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 10:26
by Tony1244
Some of these are fake fights. Probably not all of them. If a punch lands (not the Edwards "fight") on a certain part of the head where there is no snap, it appears harmless, doesn't mean it is.
Ali-Liston 2 certainly looked fake to me. I'm agnostic on Wilder-Scott even though a lot of you are certain on that one.
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 10:34
by vidal
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 10:41
by Badhusker
x2x wrote:Wilder - Scott
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jws9K_RTCy4
Watch Scott's head especially in slow motion. It didn't even move as it would have if anything landed. Even the announcers went as far as they could go without losing their jobs.
Next we can discuss David Haye's two comeback "fights" and also his "fight" against Harrison.
You can't see the hook to the temple? Apparently you haven't even been punched. A hit like that from a guy that hits as hard as Wilder can definitely throw off your equilibrium.
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 10:47
by Ilya Muromets
Tony1244 wrote:Some of these are fake fights. Probably not all of them. If a punch lands (not the Edwards "fight") on a certain part of the head where there is no snap, it appears harmless, doesn't mean it is.
Ali-Liston 2 certainly looked fake to me. I'm agnostic on Wilder-Scott even though a lot of you are certain on that one.
You're hardly the only one. In fact they couldn't find a single person in attendance at either Clay - Liston "fight" who thought they were on the level. The mafia owned Liston. He did what they told him to. Clay-Ali had many fights that were fixed one way or another.
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 10:53
by Ilya Muromets
Badhusker wrote:
You can't see the hook to the temple? Apparently you haven't even been punched. A hit like that from a guy that hits as hard as Wilder can definitely throw off your equilibrium.
Nah, it was a little slap. You don't KO fighters with a slap. Threw him off his equilibrium? OK that might make some sense if it was followed up with a hard right or something, but it wasn't!
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 11:41
by BitPlayer
x2x wrote:Wilder - Scott
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jws9K_RTCy4
Watch Scott's head especially in slow motion. It didn't even move as it would have if anything landed. Even the announcers went as far as they could go without losing their jobs.
Next we can discuss David Haye's two comeback "fights" and also his "fight" against Harrison.
He was knocked out by the hook, I don't get why people claim this is fake.
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 12:03
by SteveO
x2x wrote:Clay-Ali had many fights that were fixed one way or another.
Wow!
Please enlighten us and don't forget to include the evidence to back up your claim.
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 12:08
by TheBeast
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 12:12
by tiny_acres
SteveO wrote:x2x wrote:Clay-Ali had many fights that were fixed one way or another.
Wow!
Please enlighten us and don't forget to include the evidence to back up your claim.
Steve don't feed the troll
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 12:14
by Ilya Muromets
BitPlayer wrote:
He was knocked out by the hook, I don't get why people claim this is fake.
Some more points: Wilder and Scott were friends (like Haye and Harrison). There were pre fight rumors about Wilder having gambling debts. Note how Scott braces himself on his arm when he falls, a controlled fall. Note how Wilder doesn't even look at Scott but just walks back to his corner and starts celebrating.
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 12:16
by Stuarty
Dunno how to post vids. What about the Michael Gomez v Peter McDonagh Irish title fight years ago. Gomez turned his back and refused to fight on!
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 12:17
by Ilya Muromets
SteveO wrote:
Wow!
Please enlighten us and don't forget to include the evidence to back up your claim.
One thing at a time. Meanwhile your first homework assignment is to study up on the two Liston "fights".
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 12:22
by SteveO
x2x wrote:SteveO wrote:
Wow!
Please enlighten us and don't forget to include the evidence to back up your claim.
One thing at a time. Meanwhile your first homework assignment is to study up on the two Liston "fights".
Is that it?
Those two contests have been debated so many times there is nothing left to say about them.
I am more interested to discover what the other 'many' fights are. With concrete evidence of course and not just your opinion.
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 12:27
by bigjack
That's the one for me,without a doubt the worst boxers on earth.
Re: Famous Fake Fights
Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 12:27
by Ilya Muromets
Stuarty30 wrote:Dunno how to post vids. What about the Michael Gomez v Peter McDonagh Irish title fight years ago. Gomez turned his back and refused to fight on!
Just post the Youtube link. The window will automatically open. I didn't know about that one. There are hundreds if not thousands of these in the wonderfuul world of boxing. The thing about boxing is it is an easy sport to fix. You don't have to deal with a whole team just one guy. Gangsters are attracted to boxing because of the violence. Gangsters like to gamble but they don't like to lose. It's harder to ensure that your man wins. You need to do something like load his gloves or talk to the referee and judges or his oponent. It's easier to ensure that your man loses, hence the dive.