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Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 14:11
by Freedom
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 14:28
by Stuarty
He'll need to do a bit more than KO Teddy from Hangtime before we start getting excited

Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 14:30
by gilgamesh
Dude doesn't look much of a physical specimen, but he's faced decent opposition in 4 of his last 5 fights. I doubt he winds up going much further than where he's at right now.
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 17:21
by Cutman Scabbers
gilgamesh wrote:Dude doesn't look much of a physical specimen, but he's faced decent opposition in 4 of his last 5 fights. I doubt he winds up going much further than where he's at right now.
He looks in better shape than he did before.
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 17:49
by gilgamesh
Cutman Scabbers wrote:gilgamesh wrote:Dude doesn't look much of a physical specimen, but he's faced decent opposition in 4 of his last 5 fights. I doubt he winds up going much further than where he's at right now.
He looks in better shape than he did before.
That doesn't seem to be saying much. At any rate I think this 14-0 with 14 knockouts record, and being referred to by somebody on an online forum as a "New Heavyweight Sensation" is about as good as it's gonna get for him. I doubt the knockout streak continues against any Top 25 opponents.
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 18:14
by Boxing Prospect
He was apparently pretty good amateur
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 18:44
by crusader
Cutman Scabbers wrote:gilgamesh wrote:Dude doesn't look much of a physical specimen, but he's faced decent opposition in 4 of his last 5 fights. I doubt he winds up going much further than where he's at right now.
He looks in better shape than he did before.
And about 3 inches taller
The guy in the video is actually Olympic silver medalist, Worlds bronze medalist, and Asian Games champ Zhang Zhilei (11-0 with 7 KOs), who is about 6'6" and usually in okay shape. I think his best days were in the amateurs and I don't expect much of him as a pro, but to me he still seems more legit than Jun Long Zhang.
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 00:04
by Cutman Scabbers
crusader wrote:Cutman Scabbers wrote:gilgamesh wrote:Dude doesn't look much of a physical specimen, but he's faced decent opposition in 4 of his last 5 fights. I doubt he winds up going much further than where he's at right now.
He looks in better shape than he did before.
And about 3 inches taller
The guy in the video is actually Olympic silver medalist, Worlds bronze medalist, and Asian Games champ Zhang Zhilei (11-0 with 7 KOs), who is about 6'6" and usually in okay shape. I think his best days were in the amateurs and I don't expect much of him as a pro, but to me he still seems more legit than Jun Long Zhang.
Ha ha! I should have known.
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 00:21
by jujigatame
This is the 2nd or 3rd thread I've seen totally blowing this guy's success out of proportion. He's a fat guy in his mid-30s whose biggest win is over a C-list (and that's being generous) cruiserweight.
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 01:02
by Ilya Muromets
It would be great for boxing, though, if China could come up with a "new heavyweight sensation".
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 01:03
by SportsRatings
Here's the problem: two fighters from China have "Zhang" in their name. Zhang Junlong and Zhang Zhilei (names should be reversed in Mandarin, I think)
Zhang Junlong is the fat guy with little amateur pedigree.
Zhang Zhilei is the taller, much fitter fighter who won a Silver medal in 2008 as a super heavyweight.
Zhilei clearly has more potential and I wouldn't doubt he could make the top ten some day. Junlong I doubt will make any true top 15 or ever risk stepping up; he will probably continue to pad his record with nobodies (the WBA ranks him #14 but has asked for video proof of his bouts).
Both are in their 30s so time is somewhat of an issue, though today's HWs tend to fight forever.
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 01:22
by Ilya Muromets
I googled up a Zhang Zhilei fight. This one was his very first pro fight. Unfortunately it belongs on the Fake Fight thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIe_BEHyqGE
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 01:26
by Ilya Muromets
This one is much more interesting, Zhang Zhilei vs Anthony Joshua in the 2012 Olympics -
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2d300 ... -chn_sport
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 01:42
by Ilya Muromets
I just watched the Zhang Zhilei - Joshua 2012 Olympic fight. I had to turn the sound off because I couldn't take the ridiculously biased announcers. Zhang was holding his own except for the knockdown which didn't hurt him. Zhang was having constant problems with the stupid headguard that kept coming down over his eyes. He's the best looking Chinese heavyweight I've ever seen.
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 02:40
by jbizzle20
x2x wrote:It would be great for boxing, though, if China could come up with a "new heavyweight sensation".
It would be. The world's largest population and a ton of money there. Would be great for boxing. However, he still has a lot of work to do. Has the potential, though.
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 04:10
by Rob3_142
I think it would be great for the division if China could start delivering a couple of high quality Heavyweights. They clearly have the talent to do so. Unfortunately I think time and ambition probably works against these current prospects reaching world level, but if they both make a marked step up in their next few fights, never say never!
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 04:12
by asdfjkl
Said this ages ago lol. He's showing similar statistics as AJ and better statistics as Deontay Wilder.
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 04:30
by Syntax Error
14-0 with 14 KOs would put him number 3 on the all-time HW ATG list, just behind Anthony Joshua & a long way behind Wilton Norman Chamberlain whose 0-0-0 record will never be bettered.

Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 06:54
by asdfjkl
Syntax Error wrote:14-0 with 14 KOs would put him number 3 on the all-time HW ATG list, just behind Anthony Joshua & a long way behind Wilton Norman Chamberlain whose 0-0-0 record will never be bettered.

You seem to be new in boxing, perhaps you should google Vitali Klitschko.
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 10:16
by jezzamundo
asdfjkl wrote:Syntax Error wrote:14-0 with 14 KOs would put him number 3 on the all-time HW ATG list, just behind Anthony Joshua & a long way behind Wilton Norman Chamberlain whose 0-0-0 record will never be bettered.

You seem to be new in boxing, perhaps you should google Vitali Klitschko.
Perhaps he's being sarcastic?
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 10:35
by Ilya Muromets
asdfjkl wrote:Said this ages ago lol. He's showing similar statistics as AJ and better statistics as Deontay Wilder.
At the end of September he's fighting a guy who has been in with Helenius, Chisora, and Whyte.
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 11:02
by jujigatame
Assuming you're talking about this Beka Lobjanidze guy. Helenius, Chisora, and Whyte all KO'd him inside 4 rounds, and he's literally never beaten an opponent who had a single BoxRec rating point. That's almost impressive in its awfulness.
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 11:03
by Killer Blow
x2x wrote:asdfjkl wrote:Said this ages ago lol. He's showing similar statistics as AJ and better statistics as Deontay Wilder.
At the end of September he's fighting a guy who has been in with Helenius, Chisora, and Whyte.
Who?
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 11:28
by Ilya Muromets
jujigatame wrote:Assuming you're talking about this Beka Lobjanidze guy. Helenius, Chisora, and Whyte all KO'd him inside 4 rounds, and he's literally never beaten an opponent who had a single BoxRec rating point. That's almost impressive in its awfulness.
Ha ha true, but at least he's been in with them, so we'll see how Zhang does. It is to be expected that he'll KO him too, and then he can move up some more.
Re: Jun Long Zhang New Heavyweight sensation
Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 12:33
by TheBeast
From the 3 most known chineese pro heavies, i think he is the one who showed the most talent with decent hands and timing