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will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 16:10
by badkatt
??? how does this fight go ?
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 16:20
by Freedom2013
Is the fight really going to happen? Ortiz is a strange one, he may pull out.
Ustinov is getting old, but I don't see him as an easy opponent for anyone.
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 16:38
by badkatt
Freedom2013 wrote:Is the fight really going to happen? Ortiz is a strange one, he may pull out.
Ustinov is getting old, but I don't see him as an easy opponent for anyone.
YES ITS HAPPENING IN NOV ....
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 17:17
by PsychoGamerTwo
I don't know if its going to be easy, but i'd definitely pick Ortiz by definitive win (stoppage, clear UD)
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 17:18
by SaadOffTheDeck
Yes, very easy. Ustinov is mediocre and not much of a puncher.
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 18:29
by Freedom2013
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Yes, very easy. Ustinov is mediocre and not much of a puncher.
He's slow, but he can punch.
He KOed the durable Matt Skelton COLD about 15 years ago in MMA.
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 18:34
by SaadOffTheDeck
Freedom2013 wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Yes, very easy. Ustinov is mediocre and not much of a puncher.
He's slow, but he can punch.
He KOed the durable Matt Skelton COLD about 15 years ago in MMA.
No, he can't. I watched him tattoo a shopworn Monte Barrett who had no legs at all and he couldn't finish him. He brings nothing to a fight but size.
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 18:54
by Badhusker
Freedom2013 wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Yes, very easy. Ustinov is mediocre and not much of a puncher.
He's slow, but he can punch.
He KOed the durable Matt Skelton COLD about 15 years ago in MMA.
Of course the big question is........will Ortiz get a fair shake in this fight? Just wondering, because it is the first thing Freedom talks about if the fight is in a venue that he doesn't like.
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 04 Sep 2016, 04:16
by asdfjkl
Probably, I wonder about Tyrone Spong today, does he overwelm all expectations again in Mexico today?
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 04 Sep 2016, 21:16
by Wales
Ortiz keeps piling on pounds himself.
Wins, but not easy
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 05 Sep 2016, 15:00
by Ilya Muromets
This one appears to be off again. Seems that Ortiz didn't sign. They should strip him of his silly title.
http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/ortiz-u ... ses-352763
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 05 Sep 2016, 15:04
by BitPlayer
FFS
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 05 Sep 2016, 15:07
by Ilya Muromets
What does Ustinov have to do to get a fight anyway? Fury stood him up before this. Are they all scared of him or what?
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 05 Sep 2016, 16:11
by PsychoGamerTwo
Freedom2013 wrote:Is the fight really going to happen? Ortiz is a strange one, he may pull out.
Ugggggggggggggh.
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 06 Sep 2016, 06:10
by Enlightened-One
The WBA apparently wanted VADA administered drug testing, which Team Ortiz agreed to and stipulated in the fight contract, but Team Ustinov declined to undergo this testing.
http://www.BS.com/luis-ortizs- ... ng--108430
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 06 Sep 2016, 07:30
by Badhusker
Enlightened-One wrote:The WBA apparently wanted VADA administered drug testing, which Team Ortiz agreed to and stipulated in the fight contract, but
Team Ortiz declined to undergo this testing.
http://www.BS.com/luis-ortizs- ... ng--108430
I think you mean
Ustinov refused testing. It means he is dirty in my opinion.
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 06 Sep 2016, 09:31
by Enlightened-One
Badhusker wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:The WBA apparently wanted VADA administered drug testing, which Team Ortiz agreed to and stipulated in the fight contract, but
Team Ortiz declined to undergo this testing.
http://www.BS.com/luis-ortizs- ... ng--108430
I think you mean
Ustinov refused testing. It means he is dirty in my opinion.
Yeah, my bad... it was a typo
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 06 Sep 2016, 15:22
by Ilya Muromets
Enlightened-One wrote:The WBA apparently wanted VADA administered drug testing, which Team Ortiz agreed to and stipulated in the fight contract, but Team Ustinov declined to undergo this testing.
http://www.BS.com/luis-ortizs- ... ng--108430
Good for him! I've heard enough of Doctor Margaret Goodman and her phony Las Vegas Mafia (Ne)VADA drug testing racket. Let us start sending the American boxers to Moscow for drug testing now!
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 06 Sep 2016, 15:43
by bigman1968
x2x wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:The WBA apparently wanted VADA administered drug testing, which Team Ortiz agreed to and stipulated in the fight contract, but Team Ustinov declined to undergo this testing.
http://www.BS.com/luis-ortizs- ... ng--108430
Good for him! I've heard enough of Doctor Margaret Goodman and her phony Las Vegas Mafia (Ne)VADA drug testing racket. Let us start sending the American boxers to Moscow for drug testing now!
No can do, RUSADA is closed, since the director runaway abroad...after sudden deaths of his deputees-)))
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 06 Sep 2016, 16:29
by Ilya Muromets
bigman1968 wrote:
No can do, RUSADA is closed, since the director runaway abroad...after sudden deaths of his deputees-)))
Yeah some weird stuff - all this drug stuff and drug testing stuff and war on drug stuff - politicized now, dirty, crooked, all of it, right up to the top.
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 06 Sep 2016, 16:39
by bigman1968
x2x wrote:bigman1968 wrote:
No can do, RUSADA is closed, since the director runaway abroad...after sudden deaths of his deputees-)))
Yeah some weird stuff - all this drug stuff and drug testing stuff and war on drug stuff - politicized now, dirty, crooked, all of it, right up to the top.
Russian bullshit! When Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong and other US sport heroes were busted it was non-political, clean and honest? And when it's Sharapova and Povetkin it's political and dirty?
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 07 Sep 2016, 11:33
by Ilya Muromets
bigman1968 wrote:x2x wrote:bigman1968 wrote:
No can do, RUSADA is closed, since the director runaway abroad...after sudden deaths of his deputees-)))
Yeah some weird stuff - all this drug stuff and drug testing stuff and war on drug stuff - politicized now, dirty, crooked, all of it, right up to the top.
Russian bullshit! When Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong and other US sport heroes were busted it was non-political, clean and honest? And when it's Sharapova and Povetkin it's political and dirty?
No. I don't know who Jones is but I think the demonization of Lance Armstrong is bullshit too, even more so, since he is a cancer survivor. As if taking some (currently illegal) drug as opposed to some (currently legal) supplements will turn you into an incredible cycling champion!
Re: will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??
Posted: 07 Sep 2016, 11:43
by bigman1968
x2x wrote:bigman1968 wrote:x2x wrote:
Yeah some weird stuff - all this drug stuff and drug testing stuff and war on drug stuff - politicized now, dirty, crooked, all of it, right up to the top.
Russian bullshit! When Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong and other US sport heroes were busted it was non-political, clean and honest? And when it's Sharapova and Povetkin it's political and dirty?
No. I don't know who Jones is but I think the demonization of Lance Armstrong is bullshit too, even more so, since he is a cancer survivor. As if taking some (currently illegal) drug as opposed to some (currently legal) supplements will turn you into an incredible cycling champion!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Jones