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The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 07 Sep 2016, 05:29
by Ruthless-RKO
There is no need for discussion about the best CW ever - every normal persons would agree. Of course, his name is Evander Holyfield.
The number 2 could be questionable, but I will vote for David Haye.
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 07 Sep 2016, 22:54
by ClivePatrickLyons
Juan Carlos Gomez could have unified the 4 belt's if given his chance in the latish 90's was only really troubled when meeting bigger men at Heavyweight at cruiserweight he never lost a fight

Another cruiser I like d was Carlos De Leon i'm not saying he was the 2nd best cruiser behind Holy but he did win and loss the cruiserweight Title 4 time's nearly matching P4P king Sugar Ray Robinson and don't no-one even bother start saying i'm trying to compare De leon too SRR

because i'm not

Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 07 Sep 2016, 23:37
by Woldemar
Juan Carlos Gomez
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 10 Sep 2016, 07:24
by Crease
I was always a fan of Johnny Nelson. I always thought that he went about his business in an understated way. I don't think he's number 2 right behind Evander, but I do think he's a contender for the top 5 - and a safe, certainty bet for the top 10.
My number 2 - has to be David Haye. It wasn't just what he did, it was the way that he did it. KO'ing quality opponents left, right and centre.
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 10 Sep 2016, 07:39
by crusader
Are Enzo, Gurov, Mormeck, and Fragomeni the quality opponents Haye knocked out? Incidentally, the last two fights, especially the Mormeck bout, were quite entertaining and Haye showed grit in winning those.
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 10 Sep 2016, 08:02
by Crease
crusader wrote:Are Enzo, Gurov, Mormeck, and Fragomeni the quality opponents Haye knocked out?
Yes, well certainly three of them anyway.
Mormeck, what can you say about him? Was probably the top ranked Cruiserweight in the world after beating O'Neil Bell. Then he bumped in to Haye and David knocked him out in his own back yard.
Maccarinelli - I confess that I put a bet on him defeating Haye. Because Enzo was looking like a wrecking machine when he was the Champ, back in 2007 (I think it was). Haye absolutely devastated him, it was some performance and maybe the greatest way to underline his credential as the best fighter of his weight class.
Fragomeni was unbeaten going in to the fight against Haye and was considered one of the better fighters in Europe of his weight class. He would later go on to become a World Champion at Cruiserweight.
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 10 Sep 2016, 08:03
by Syntax Error
David Haye.
Others stayed around longer & cemented more of a legacy, but I don't think any other CW other than Holyfield would have beaten Haye.
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 11 Sep 2016, 02:27
by Kalan
I don't see that Holyfield would have beaten Haye... His speed, power, and skills are levels past Holy.
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 11 Sep 2016, 02:33
by gilgamesh
I'd probably go with J.C. Gomez
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 11 Sep 2016, 02:33
by gilgamesh
Syntax Error wrote:David Haye.
Others stayed around longer & cemented more of a legacy, but I don't think any other CW other than Holyfield would have beaten Haye.
Carl Thompson disagrees
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 11 Sep 2016, 03:46
by Syntax Error
gilgamesh wrote:Syntax Error wrote:David Haye.
Others stayed around longer & cemented more of a legacy, but I don't think any other CW other than Holyfield would have beaten Haye.
Carl Thompson disagrees
Fair point.
It's shame they never had a rematch because Haye learnt a lot from that defeat & improved massively after that.
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 11 Sep 2016, 11:05
by Woldemar
Anaclet Wamba was also good cruiser.
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 11 Sep 2016, 14:53
by Bodyshot3
Going to be unpopular...especially amongst Brit fans who recall the sleep-fest against Nelson....but Carlos De Leon did manage a long old reign as a WBC champ and probably needs to be grudingly name-checked as a 'notable other.'
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 11 Sep 2016, 15:06
by SaadOffTheDeck
Resume I'd say Huck, fighter I'd say qawi or toney.
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 21:36
by ClivePatrickLyons
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 14 Sep 2016, 20:18
by DaveyMac
Ice Cole gets no mention?
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 14 Sep 2016, 22:56
by BoxBuzz
Jirov and Toney are better than some of those names being bantered about.
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 15 Sep 2016, 14:27
by Bodyshot3
Jirov and Toney are better than some of those names being bantered about.
Jirov was often good to watch
Gave it a good shake at heavyweight as well....plenty think he beat Mesi and deserved to take Joe's O.
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 10:14
by Syntax Error
Herbie Hide should have stayed at CW; he would have been a beast.
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 11:00
by Ambling Alp II
Bodyshot3 wrote:Jirov and Toney are better than some of those names being bantered about.
Jirov was often good to watch
Gave it a good shake at heavyweight as well....plenty think he beat Mesi and deserved to take Joe's O.
They were certainly better than these guys. I guess you could argue that Toney did not have enough fights there.
Re: The best Cruiserweight after Holyfield ?
Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 11:02
by Crease
Ambling Alp II wrote:They were certainly better than these guys. I guess you could argue that Toney did not have enough fights there.
I'm lways cautious about ranking Toney anything above Super Middleweight, because of the evidence of him taking PEDs in the John Ruiz fight.