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Throwing in the towel ...
Posted: 11 Sep 2016, 13:21
by Sequitorian
There was an instance where the corner threw in the towel and the ref picked it up, threw it back at the corner or at least out of the ring, and let the fight continue ... and the fight did continue in a wild back-and-forth brutal contest for quite awhile ... several rounds more if I remember correctly.
I can't remember the outcome or the fighters but I'm pretty sure it was between two Brits ... (hope that's an OK term) ...
Can anyone here remind me of who those two fighters were?
Thanks ...
Re: Throwing in the towel ...
Posted: 11 Sep 2016, 13:24
by Covfefe
Graham Earl against Michael Katsidis.
Re: Throwing in the towel ...
Posted: 11 Sep 2016, 13:34
by The Law
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Graham Earl against Michael Katsidis.
Correct. The referee was Micky Vann. It illustrated the point that only a referee can stop a fight. Even a doctor cannot stop a fight, he can merely advise a referee when asked, the final decision is always with the ref. Also in the rules meetings before the fights both corners are advised not to throw the towel into the ring and they should merely wave it to get the referees attention, which is exactly what Dom Ingle did.
Re: Throwing in the towel ...
Posted: 11 Sep 2016, 15:38
by rd350lc
The Law wrote:TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Graham Earl against Michael Katsidis.
Correct. The referee was Micky Vann. It illustrated the point that only a referee can stop a fight. Even a doctor cannot stop a fight, he can merely advise a referee when asked, the final decision is always with the ref. Also in the rules meetings before the fights both corners are advised not to throw the towel into the ring and they should merely wave it to get the referees attention, which is exactly what Dom Ingle did.
didn't know that , have always seen the towel thrown into the ring and most corner men must ignore the rules as like last night it isn't always easy to spot amongst what is going on ringside .
Re: Throwing in the towel ...
Posted: 11 Sep 2016, 18:30
by Sequitorian
Thanks, guys ...
Re: Throwing in the towel ...
Posted: 11 Sep 2016, 19:40
by Impractical Poster
The Law wrote:TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Graham Earl against Michael Katsidis.
Correct. The referee was Micky Vann. It illustrated the point that only a referee can stop a fight. Even a doctor cannot stop a fight, he can merely advise a referee when asked, the final decision is always with the ref. Also in the rules meetings before the fights both corners are advised not to throw the towel into the ring and they should merely wave it to get the referees attention, which is exactly what Dom Ingle did.
I remember that fight. Thought it was weird. Not sure I agree with that rule though. A corner knows their fighter better than anyone. If they throw the towel, it should the end of the fight.
Re: Throwing in the towel ...
Posted: 11 Sep 2016, 19:49
by The Law
Impractical Poster wrote:The Law wrote:TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Graham Earl against Michael Katsidis.
Correct. The referee was Micky Vann. It illustrated the point that only a referee can stop a fight. Even a doctor cannot stop a fight, he can merely advise a referee when asked, the final decision is always with the ref. Also in the rules meetings before the fights both corners are advised not to throw the towel into the ring and they should merely wave it to get the referees attention, which is exactly what Dom Ingle did.
I remember that fight. Thought it was weird. Not sure I agree with that rule though. A corner knows their fighter better than anyone. If they throw the towel, it should the end of the fight.
Anoter reason for the rule being in place is because throwing a towel can potentially be a hazard, a fighter can slip on it or it can land over a fighter's eyes whilst he is taking punches etc. A lot of trainers ignore this rule but Dom followed the rule so fair play to him.
Re: Throwing in the towel ...
Posted: 11 Sep 2016, 19:51
by Impractical Poster
The Law wrote:Impractical Poster wrote:The Law wrote:
Correct. The referee was Micky Vann. It illustrated the point that only a referee can stop a fight. Even a doctor cannot stop a fight, he can merely advise a referee when asked, the final decision is always with the ref. Also in the rules meetings before the fights both corners are advised not to throw the towel into the ring and they should merely wave it to get the referees attention, which is exactly what Dom Ingle did.
I remember that fight. Thought it was weird. Not sure I agree with that rule though. A corner knows their fighter better than anyone. If they throw the towel, it should the end of the fight.
Anoter reason for the rule being in place is because throwing a towel can potentially be a hazard, a fighter can slip on it or it can land over a fighter's eyes whilst he is taking punches etc. A lot of trainers ignore this rule but Dom followed the rule so fair play to him.
I agree with not throwing it in the ring, but don't agree with a ref overruling a corner's decision to stop a fight.
Re: Throwing in the towel ...
Posted: 11 Sep 2016, 20:00
by Covfefe
Impractical Poster wrote:The Law wrote:Impractical Poster wrote: I remember that fight. Thought it was weird. Not sure I agree with that rule though. A corner knows their fighter better than anyone. If they throw the towel, it should the end of the fight.
Anoter reason for the rule being in place is because throwing a towel can potentially be a hazard, a fighter can slip on it or it can land over a fighter's eyes whilst he is taking punches etc. A lot of trainers ignore this rule but Dom followed the rule so fair play to him.
I agree with not throwing it in the ring, but don't agree with a ref overruling a corner's decision to stop a fight.
If I remember correctly the fight went on a few more rounds, and just after Vann threw out the towel Earl almost banjod Katsidis, he literally folded up like an accordion and shot back up again and danced round the ring on rubber legs.
Re: Throwing in the towel ...
Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 01:27
by The Law
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Impractical Poster wrote:The Law wrote:
Anoter reason for the rule being in place is because throwing a towel can potentially be a hazard, a fighter can slip on it or it can land over a fighter's eyes whilst he is taking punches etc. A lot of trainers ignore this rule but Dom followed the rule so fair play to him.
I agree with not throwing it in the ring, but don't agree with a ref overruling a corner's decision to stop a fight.
If I remember correctly the fight went on a few more rounds, and just after Vann threw out the towel Earl almost banjod Katsidis, he literally folded up like an accordion and shot back up again and danced round the ring on rubber legs.
Earl actually scored a knockdown after the towel incident.
Re: Throwing in the towel ...
Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 02:11
by Covfefe
The Law wrote:TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Impractical Poster wrote:
I agree with not throwing it in the ring, but don't agree with a ref overruling a corner's decision to stop a fight.
If I remember correctly the fight went on a few more rounds, and just after Vann threw out the towel Earl almost banjod Katsidis, he literally folded up like an accordion and shot back up again and danced round the ring on rubber legs.
Earl actually scored a knockdown after the towel incident.
Yeah that's what I meant, it was almost as soon as he threw the towel out to I think. Cracking fight that hidden away on itv4 at about 8pm.
Re: Throwing in the towel ...
Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 03:01
by Stuarty
Remember the fight well. I wasn't the biggest fan of Earl but that was an admirable performance. He caught Katsidis flush and buckled his legs but he recovered well.
Re: Throwing in the towel ...
Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 03:10
by crusader
I thought the ending of that fight was a little strange.....Earl had one of his best rounds in the 5th and was giving as well as he was getting, but was then pulled out after taking much more punishment in the earlier rounds. Maybe he injured something in the 5th or sensed that he had put everything out there and had no more left to give.
Re: Throwing in the towel ...
Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 03:26
by Purse Bid Shakedown
Iirc a towel was thrown when Yuri Foreman's knee was buckling all over the place vs Cotto and Mercante Jr threw it back to reward his gutsy effort with a few more sitting duck blows
Re: Throwing in the towel ...
Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 03:32
by crusader
Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:Iirc a towel was thrown when Yuri Foreman's knee was buckling all over the place vs Cotto and Mercante Jr threw it back to reward his gutsy effort with a few more sitting duck blows
And after the fight the HBO crew was praising Mercante as if he made a great decision, when all he did was let an injured and clearly outgunned fighter incur more damage. Foreman got absolutely nothing positive out of the extra time the fight lasted.
Re: Throwing in the towel ...
Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 06:15
by binipop
crusader wrote:I thought the ending of that fight was a little strange.....Earl had one of his best rounds in the 5th and was giving as well as he was getting, but was then pulled out after taking much more punishment in the earlier rounds. Maybe he injured something in the 5th or sensed that he had put everything out there and had no more left to give.
Dunno but Earl was clearly annoyed about being pulled out in the post fight interview.