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Gavin Mcdonnell
Posted: 17 Sep 2016, 10:54
by Fitzy901
How do you fancy his chances against the newly crowned WBC Super-Bantamweight Champion?
I personally don't rate Gavin and never have, however his achievements as former British, European and WBC Silver champion speak for themselves and Hasegawa is 35 years old and has been in some proper wars.
Re: Gavin Mcdonnell
Posted: 17 Sep 2016, 11:23
by crusader
How do the achievements speak for themselves when all the opponents he beat to win those titles are outside BoxRec's top 75? Is beating tiny Jorge Sanchez or Oleksandr Yegerov really that impressive? By the way, is the WBC Silver title a big deal now? I notice that more people are acting like it is these days...
McDonnell has been matched very favorably to win his belts, and I don't see him as being close to a world class fighter. Hasegawa has been in a lot of tough fights (including his recent title win) and maybe he just had his swan song, but I would still favor him.
Re: Gavin Mcdonnell
Posted: 17 Sep 2016, 14:36
by craigjenkins05
Unfortunately with Santa Cruz, Frampton and quigg moving up the division is wide open and wouldn't be shocked if he won a world title I don't rate him though Jamie is the better brother by a mile though
Re: Gavin Mcdonnell
Posted: 17 Sep 2016, 14:41
by daviddee
I seen Gavin fight at Doncaster Dome.. He lost his fight but sure they either gave it to him or a draw.. At that stage couldn't even see him winning a British Title he looked awful. Just shows what getting the right fights at the right time does for you.. Credit where credit is due he had already over achieved so sky's the limit
Re: Gavin Mcdonnell
Posted: 18 Sep 2016, 09:58
by Fitzy901
crusader wrote:How do the achievements speak for themselves when all the opponents he beat to win those titles are outside BoxRec's top 75? Is beating tiny Jorge Sanchez or Oleksandr Yegerov really that impressive? By the way, is the WBC Silver title a big deal now? I notice that more people are acting like it is these days...
McDonnell has been matched very favorably to win his belts, and I don't see him as being close to a world class fighter. Hasegawa has been in a lot of tough fights (including his recent title win) and maybe he just had his swan song, but I would still favor him.
At the end of the day no matter who he beat, no one can argue that he won the titles. I do not rate him in the slightest and take my hat off to the people matching him but surely he now has a chance to win that WBC belt againts a 35 year old man.
Re: Gavin Mcdonnell
Posted: 18 Sep 2016, 10:17
by magwitch
Is this the Doncaster guy who won the belt then lost it out of the ring? I thought he was meant to be good..
Re: Gavin Mcdonnell
Posted: 18 Sep 2016, 10:24
by Fitzy901
magwitch wrote:Is this the Doncaster guy who won the belt then lost it out of the ring? I thought he was meant to be good..
No thats his brother Jamie.
Re: Gavin Mcdonnell
Posted: 18 Sep 2016, 13:01
by crusader
Fitzy901 wrote:crusader wrote:How do the achievements speak for themselves when all the opponents he beat to win those titles are outside BoxRec's top 75? Is beating tiny Jorge Sanchez or Oleksandr Yegerov really that impressive? By the way, is the WBC Silver title a big deal now? I notice that more people are acting like it is these days...
McDonnell has been matched very favorably to win his belts, and I don't see him as being close to a world class fighter. Hasegawa has been in a lot of tough fights (including his recent title win) and maybe he just had his swan song, but I would still favor him.
At the end of the day no matter who he beat, no one can argue that he won the titles. I do not rate him in the slightest and take my hat off to the people matching him but surely he now has a chance to win that WBC belt againts a 35 year old man.
You said his accomplishments speak for themselves, but what do they really say? A title is no more impressive than beating the fighter you won it against, and the opposition McDonnell beat to win his British, EBU, and WBC Silver titles is quite mediocre, with none of the opponents currently being in BoxRec's top 75. Hasegawa is past his best and
perhaps McDonnell could beat him (still favor Hasegawa), but the titles really say nothing about his chances.
Re: Gavin Mcdonnell
Posted: 18 Sep 2016, 15:00
by Boxing Prospect
Hasegawa will be 36 when (or IF) he returns and even then he'd be favoured over McDonnell. He was a 7-1 underdog vs Ruiz though.
Odds are he retires tbh, he's not said as much but 3-weight champion was his long term dream and that was was apparently his final target.
Re: Gavin Mcdonnell
Posted: 19 Sep 2016, 07:22
by Fitzy901
I don't fancy Gavins chances againts Julio Ceja (who his brother boxed) for the vacant title. if that is what is to happen.
Re: Gavin Mcdonnell
Posted: 19 Sep 2016, 07:56
by Boxing Prospect
Probably be Rey Vargas having a shot next, that kid looks dangerous.
Re: Gavin Mcdonnell
Posted: 20 Sep 2016, 01:52
by Andrew
Boxing Prospect wrote:Probably be Rey Vargas having a shot next, that kid looks dangerous.
I'm always suspect of fighters with mid - high 20-0 records who have fought absolutely no one decent.
Gav was very fortune not to fight Dickens and Ped Galahad whilst getting the British a Euro belts
Re: Gavin Mcdonnell
Posted: 20 Sep 2016, 13:09
by Fitzy901
Naandrew wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:Probably be Rey Vargas having a shot next, that kid looks dangerous.
I'm always suspect of fighters with mid - high 20-0 records who have fought absolutely no one decent.
Gav was very fortune not to fight Dickens and Ped Galahad whilst getting the British a Euro belts
He vacated rather than box Dickens and I can see why.