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It's the fight pretty much everyone wants. Both bring a lot to the table. Who do you think would win and why?

Golovkin wins because he's better than Canelo in just about every conceivable way. Canelo would be doing well to win 3 rounds. His only hope is a fluke injury from Golovkin in the fight or that the fix is in, and he's able to survive the distance. I don't think he would be able to, and even if he did he'd be a bloody mess so it'd be a lot harder to fool anybody on a robbery decision.

There's a reason why Team Canelo is avoiding Golovkin like the plague. While Floyd and Lara were threats to outbox him (and Floyd DID outbox him) nobody is gonna give Canelo the kinda beating Golovkin is. He may take the kinda ass whooping in that fight that'll see him never be quite the same fighter again, and that's what his promoters fear most I'm sure.

Canelo sure puts together some nice combos, but he can't he fight a full round and gets hit quite a bit when opponents attack him during his frequent breathers. He'll surely land some good shots, but I think GGG will be on him all night, pushing him back and busting him up with the jab, and then with power shots when he's against the ropes trying to take time off.

The way it is building up, it could end up being the modern day version of Hitman v Hagler.

If Canelo tries to fight at a Hagler-Hearns pace I can see him rapidly tiring like Hearns did.

crusader wrote:Canelo sure puts together some nice combos, but he can't he fight a full round and gets hit quite a bit when opponents attack him during his frequent breathers. He'll surely land some good shots, but I think GGG will be on him all night, pushing him back and busting him up with the jab, and then with power shots when he's against the ropes trying to take time off.

Very well said! He likes to admire his work a little too often and isn't busy enough to cause Golovkin any problems. I can see Canelo gassing very early on in a fight between the two after Golovkin relentlessly pushes him back and closes off the ring whilst landing shots all over him

crusader wrote:If Canelo tries to fight at a Hagler-Hearns pace I can see him rapidly tiring like Hearns did.

Exactly, but they may consider it their best chance. I think that strategy is absolutely Jacob's best opportunity for success.

gilgamesh wrote:Golovkin wins because he's better than Canelo in just about every conceivable way. Canelo would be doing well to win 3 rounds. His only hope is a fluke injury from Golovkin in the fight or that the fix is in, and he's able to survive the distance. I don't think he would be able to, and even if he did he'd be a bloody mess so it'd be a lot harder to fool anybody on a robbery decision.

There's a reason why Team Canelo is avoiding Golovkin like the plague. While Floyd and Lara were threats to outbox him (and Floyd DID outbox him) nobody is gonna give Canelo the kinda beating Golovkin is. He may take the kinda ass whooping in that fight that'll see him never be quite the same fighter again, and that's what his promoters fear most I'm sure.

I disagree with you there. Not saying Canelo wins because, but he does definitely have advantages over GGG, his defense being the obvious one.

Also the reason about him not wanting the fight because it could likely give him career shortening punishment would still apply if they fought he could win the war.

Tanzio wrote:

crusader wrote:If Canelo tries to fight at a Hagler-Hearns pace I can see him rapidly tiring like Hearns did.

Exactly, but they may consider it their best chance. I think that strategy is absolutely Jacob's best opportunity for success.

Definitely. Canelo's not a mover either so his only chance is to catch Golovkin with a big shot and get his respect early. If he's moving away from Golovkin trying to stay away he'll get eaten alive.

BitPlayer wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Golovkin wins because he's better than Canelo in just about every conceivable way. Canelo would be doing well to win 3 rounds. His only hope is a fluke injury from Golovkin in the fight or that the fix is in, and he's able to survive the distance. I don't think he would be able to, and even if he did he'd be a bloody mess so it'd be a lot harder to fool anybody on a robbery decision.

There's a reason why Team Canelo is avoiding Golovkin like the plague. While Floyd and Lara were threats to outbox him (and Floyd DID outbox him) nobody is gonna give Canelo the kinda beating Golovkin is. He may take the kinda ass whooping in that fight that'll see him never be quite the same fighter again, and that's what his promoters fear most I'm sure.

I disagree with you there. Not saying Canelo wins because, but he does definitely have advantages over GGG, his defense being the obvious one.

Also the reason about him not wanting the fight because it could likely give him career shortening punishment would still apply if they fought he could win the war.

I don't think he has better defense than Golovkin. Golovkin attacks with abandon sometimes against fighters he doesn't think can hurt him and takes more shots than usual when he's in against a fighter he thinks can hurt him. Stevens or Lemieux for instance, he's a lot more careful and takes almost no big shots cleanly.

GGG did get hit with some real nice shots from kell brook so it's possible Canelo could get some space if he can land some power.

I believe Golovkin wins, it may take until the late rounds to finally break Canelo's will but it will happen. It's been the same issues, same reasons ever since this fight was first proposed. Canelo doesn't have the gas tank to handle the all out pressure round after round, doesn't have the activity level even at a medium pace to beat GGG either even if he is out boxing him it won't last. Canelo doesn't have the power to badly hurt GGG to the head but the body may be somewhere he can do damage. If the fight happens by next year, GGG wins big. Canelo can lie all he wants, he is not looking forward to this fight.

Relatively feather-fisted 154-lber, Smith, had Canelo on the ropes a lot. Good luck to Canelo staying on the ropes against GGG.

BitPlayer wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Golovkin wins because he's better than Canelo in just about every conceivable way. Canelo would be doing well to win 3 rounds. His only hope is a fluke injury from Golovkin in the fight or that the fix is in, and he's able to survive the distance. I don't think he would be able to, and even if he did he'd be a bloody mess so it'd be a lot harder to fool anybody on a robbery decision.

There's a reason why Team Canelo is avoiding Golovkin like the plague. While Floyd and Lara were threats to outbox him (and Floyd DID outbox him) nobody is gonna give Canelo the kinda beating Golovkin is. He may take the kinda ass whooping in that fight that'll see him never be quite the same fighter again, and that's what his promoters fear most I'm sure.

I disagree with you there. Not saying Canelo wins because, but he does definitely have advantages over GGG, his defense being the obvious one.

Also the reason about him not wanting the fight because it could likely give him career shortening punishment would still apply if they fought he could win the war.

Canelo also has clearly faster hands than GGG and his chin appears to be top notch too. GGG has the edge in footspeed, stamina and punching power. For me, Canelo's best strategy is to keep the fight on the inside and turn it into a war. GGG's best strategy is to box Canelo from the outside, jab and counter him, break him down and move in for the kill in the mid to late rounds.

My pick is GGG in an 8th round stoppage while well ahead on the scorecards.

jezzamundo wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Golovkin wins because he's better than Canelo in just about every conceivable way. Canelo would be doing well to win 3 rounds. His only hope is a fluke injury from Golovkin in the fight or that the fix is in, and he's able to survive the distance. I don't think he would be able to, and even if he did he'd be a bloody mess so it'd be a lot harder to fool anybody on a robbery decision.

There's a reason why Team Canelo is avoiding Golovkin like the plague. While Floyd and Lara were threats to outbox him (and Floyd DID outbox him) nobody is gonna give Canelo the kinda beating Golovkin is. He may take the kinda ass whooping in that fight that'll see him never be quite the same fighter again, and that's what his promoters fear most I'm sure.

I disagree with you there. Not saying Canelo wins because, but he does definitely have advantages over GGG, his defense being the obvious one.

Also the reason about him not wanting the fight because it could likely give him career shortening punishment would still apply if they fought he could win the war.

Canelo also has clearly faster hands than GGG and his chin appears to be top notch too. GGG has the edge in footspeed, stamina and punching power. For me, Canelo's best strategy is to keep the fight on the inside and turn it into a war. GGG's best strategy is to box Canelo from the outside, jab and counter him, break him down and move in for the kill in the mid to late rounds.

My pick is GGG in an 8th round stoppage while well ahead on the scorecards.

Golovkin could beat Canelo any way he pleased really, but Boxing from the outside and then moving in for the kill later would be the way he'd take the least damage I'd imagine...but it also would increase Canelo's chances of going the distance in the fight where the fix could be in.

gilgamesh wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:

BitPlayer wrote: I disagree with you there. Not saying Canelo wins because, but he does definitely have advantages over GGG, his defense being the obvious one.

Also the reason about him not wanting the fight because it could likely give him career shortening punishment would still apply if they fought he could win the war.

Canelo also has clearly faster hands than GGG and his chin appears to be top notch too. GGG has the edge in footspeed, stamina and punching power. For me, Canelo's best strategy is to keep the fight on the inside and turn it into a war. GGG's best strategy is to box Canelo from the outside, jab and counter him, break him down and move in for the kill in the mid to late rounds.

My pick is GGG in an 8th round stoppage while well ahead on the scorecards.

Golovkin could beat Canelo any way he pleased really, but Boxing from the outside and then moving in for the kill later would be the way he'd take the least damage I'd imagine...but it also would increase Canelo's chances of going the distance in the fight where the fix could be in.

Canelo seems to be one guy you don't want to go the distance with for that reason.

p4p1 wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:
Canelo also has clearly faster hands than GGG and his chin appears to be top notch too. GGG has the edge in footspeed, stamina and punching power. For me, Canelo's best strategy is to keep the fight on the inside and turn it into a war. GGG's best strategy is to box Canelo from the outside, jab and counter him, break him down and move in for the kill in the mid to late rounds.

My pick is GGG in an 8th round stoppage while well ahead on the scorecards.

Golovkin could beat Canelo any way he pleased really, but Boxing from the outside and then moving in for the kill later would be the way he'd take the least damage I'd imagine...but it also would increase Canelo's chances of going the distance in the fight where the fix could be in.

Canelo seems to be one guy you don't want to go the distance with for that reason.

It seems that everyone feels that GingerHead gets the benefit of the doubt in decisions but where are the examples beyond the Lara fight? Even the Lara fight was not clear cut. It could have gone either way. Imo, that loss falls on Lara's own shoulders. He did not do enough to secure the victory.

The Trout example that so many continually refer to makes no sense. That fight had open scoring. GingerHead knew his lead was essentially insurmountable going into the last quarter of the fight and he cruised accordingly. I see no controversary in the Trout fight.

It will make little difference because if this fight happens before 2018, someone is getting stopped.

I personally didn't think the Lara vs Canelo fight was controversial at all. Canelo won that fight clear as sh*t. He beat Cotto even more clearly than that. I personally did think Trout deserved the nod over him, but it was close so I wouldn't say it was a robbery.

The fact that one judge gave him a draw 114-114 against Floyd Mayweather when he lost every minute of every round in that fight is alarming.

Canelo barely landed anything on Lara.

boxing_rocks wrote:Canelo barely landed anything on Lara.

The only punches that stood out to me all through the fight were Canelo's body shots. Lara is too passive to win big fights. He almost drew with Vanes Martirosyan in the rematch again.

gilgamesh wrote:I personally didn't think the Lara vs Canelo fight was controversial at all. Canelo won that fight clear as sh*t. He beat Cotto even more clearly than that. I personally did think Trout deserved the nod over him, but it was close so I wouldn't say it was a robbery.

The fact that one judge gave him a draw 114-114 against Floyd Mayweather when he lost every minute of every round in that fight is alarming.

See I thought he lost to Lara and Cotto but got the superstar decision...when he says he wants to fight GGG he is full of shit.

Tanzio wrote:The way it is building up, it could end up being the modern day version of Hitman v Hagler.

Possibly, but if it does, I see GGG playing the Hagler role.

JoeCorrao wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:I personally didn't think the Lara vs Canelo fight was controversial at all. Canelo won that fight clear as sh*t. He beat Cotto even more clearly than that. I personally did think Trout deserved the nod over him, but it was close so I wouldn't say it was a robbery.

The fact that one judge gave him a draw 114-114 against Floyd Mayweather when he lost every minute of every round in that fight is alarming.

See I thought he lost to Lara and Cotto but got the superstar decision...when he says he wants to fight GGG he is full of poo.

I just don't see how you could have Cotto beating him. The Punch Stats were about even in most rounds, and Canelo's punches were harder throughout. Harder punches wins when all else is even every time.

I thought it was much closer to a shutout for Canelo than a decision for Cotto.

GGG because he's got the BIGGER TICKER

Like a Boss wrote:

Tanzio wrote:The way it is building up, it could end up being the modern day version of Hitman v Hagler.

Possibly, but if it does, I see GGG playing the Hagler role.

I agree. However, that firefight was anything but a foregone conclusion.