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I don't know how accurate they are, but I just saw someone put out 63,000 buys. If that's true, it's 50/50 and the GGG fight never happens.

it shouldnt. because he doesnt deserve it and is a fraud. pissing on the sport.
it want. because he knows it is mismatch of great magnitude and he would be badly hurt in an embarresing carreer ending one sided beatdown.

I think there is a single source:

https://twitter.com/247boxingnews/statu ... 3643573248

and it doesn't look serious.

Here is a source with 250K number:

https://twitter.com/latimespugmire/stat ... 3353304064

the fact these numbers isnt public knowledge proves gpb and chickenelo is close to down and out.

Canelo is a draw but he's not at the Mayweather level where he can get 1m buys against anyone under the sun.

Maybe this will make the Golovkin fight happen sooner rather than later. 250k buys is alright but each fight for Canelo since Cotto has now been a big step down. Canelo/Golovkin could do 1m buys and make a ton of money for everyone.

180K were the first rumors I was hearing, and that was considered a horrible failure if true. If it's what Saad said, then holy sh*t was this a disaster.

#FAILNELO

gilgamesh wrote:180K were the first rumors I was hearing, and that was considered a horrible failure if true. If it's what Saad said, then holy sh*t was this a disaster.

It wasn't from any 'sources' I have. Just saw it on fb and laughed. That would be great. I didn't even stream it.

Butterbean wrote:it shouldnt. because he doesnt deserve it and is a fraud. pissing on the sport.
it want. because he knows it is mismatch of great magnitude and he would be badly hurt in an embarresing carreer ending one sided beatdown.

Butterbean wrote:it shouldnt. because he doesnt deserve it and is a fraud. pissing on the sport.
it want. because he knows it is mismatch of great magnitude and he would be badly hurt in an embarresing carreer ending one sided beatdown.

? Someone please translate.

Even if Canelo's fight was 300k, GGG's fight was 500k. Does that mean that GGG now gets a higher percentage of the fight total if they ever fought? It's looking more like 50/50 everyday.

MP wrote:GGG's fight was 500k.

What are you talking about? The Lemieux fight was the only GGG fight to go on PPV and it did way less buys than that.

MP wrote:Even if Canelo's fight was 300k, GGG's fight was 500k. Does that mean that GGG now gets a higher percentage of the fight total if they ever fought? It's looking more like 50/50 everyday.

The ppvs in the UK are much cheaper. Not a clean comparison.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

MP wrote:Even if Canelo's fight was 300k, GGG's fight was 500k. Does that mean that GGG now gets a higher percentage of the fight total if they ever fought? It's looking more like 50/50 everyday.

The ppvs in the UK are much cheaper. Not a clean comparison.

True, but the UK also has only a fifth of America's population.

jezzamundo wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

MP wrote:Even if Canelo's fight was 300k, GGG's fight was 500k. Does that mean that GGG now gets a higher percentage of the fight total if they ever fought? It's looking more like 50/50 everyday.

The ppvs in the UK are much cheaper. Not a clean comparison.

True, but the UK also has only a fifth of America's population.

And probably more boxing fans.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: The ppvs in the UK are much cheaper. Not a clean comparison.

True, but the UK also has only a fifth of America's population.

And probably more boxing fans.

Certainly a greater percentage of the population, but I doubt a greater number in total.

The fallout from Oscar and Canelo ducking GGG is becoming more and more apparent as time goes by. That's why Oscar is in full on damage control mode.

jezzamundo wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:
True, but the UK also has only a fifth of America's population.

And probably more boxing fans.

Certainly a greater percentage of the population, but I doubt a greater number in total.

Don't know, it would be interesting. I haven't run into a boxing fan in many years.

f.CK THE ppv's this as been turned into a popularity competition in stead of a fight

MP wrote:Even if Canelo's fight was 300k, GGG's fight was 500k. Does that mean that GGG now gets a higher percentage of the fight total if they ever fought? It's looking more like 50/50 everyday.

GGG’s only PPV in the US achieved 150K.

The UK Sky Box Office buy-rate is typically high for all the events covered… and the British viewers would have been more inclined to pay to see their own man than GGG, who is relatively anonymous to mainstream fans in the UK.

Anyway, let’s do the maths on the absurd notion that the most recent PPV buys for their most recent events were an accurate barometer of popularity...

If your numbers are true, Canelo-Smith would have generated about $19.5m (based on 300K x $64.99).

Now let’s compare this to GGG-Brook, 500K x $22.16 (or £16.95), which equates to $11.1m.

And these numbers must be considered in the context that Brook is a much higher profile fighter than Smith and also competed on home turf, which bolstered the figures.

According to your own numbers, Canelo would deserve a 64% share of the overall purse, which seems to fall in line with my personal expectations rather than your own 50%-50% notion.

It would be no more than Alvarez deserves if this is the case.

Enlightened-One wrote:

MP wrote:Even if Canelo's fight was 300k, GGG's fight was 500k. Does that mean that GGG now gets a higher percentage of the fight total if they ever fought? It's looking more like 50/50 everyday.

GGG’s only PPV in the US achieved 150K.

The UK Sky Box Office buy-rate is typically high for all the events covered… and the British viewers would have been more inclined to pay to see their own man than GGG, who is relatively anonymous to mainstream fans in the UK.

Anyway, let’s do the maths on the absurd notion that the most recent PPV buys for their most recent events were an accurate barometer of popularity...

If your numbers are true, Canelo-Smith would have generated about $19.5m (based on 300K x $64.99).

Now let’s compare this to GGG-Brook, 500K x $22.16 (or £16.95), which equates to $11.1m.

And these numbers must be considered in the context that Brook is a much higher profile fighter than Smith and also competed on home turf, which bolstered the figures.

According to your own numbers, Canelo would deserve a 64% share of the overall purse, which seems to fall in line with my personal expectations rather than your own 50%-50% notion.

I think it's fair to say things have changed. Ggg is known among the Uk (now more than ever) remember he had fought notable uk fighters and "relatively anonymous" doesn't seem fitting. Golovkin popularity in the US is also growing/has grown. The amount of US media coverage, the fact that almost every article dealing with Canelo mentions G and that even US media personalities rate him as the most popular boxer in America. The 150k Lemieux argument, although a fact, is old hat. Times change. Canelos falling, G is rising. It happens. It's business. 150k is outdated info that I only see golden boy referring to. As for the split I think it should be 60 canelo, 40, but I doubt they'll agree on that.

lazboy wrote:I think it's fair to say things have changed.

You’re referring a post of mine that relates to bouts that took place this month. GGG’s fame hasn’t exceeded stratospheric proportions in that time. It’s a case of status quo.

lazboy wrote:Ggg is known among the Uk (now more than ever) remember he had fought notable uk fighters and "relatively anonymous" doesn't seem fitting.

Until the Brook fight, in the UK, GGG would have been fortunate to enjoy viewership figures approaching 100K at 5.30am when his fights were televised by the little-known niche subscription Box-nation channel.

lazboy wrote:Golovkin popularity in the US is also growing/has grown. The amount of US media coverage, the fact that almost every article dealing with Canelo mentions G and that even US media personalities rate him as the most popular boxer in America. The 150k Lemieux argument, although a fact, is old hat. Times change. Canelos falling, G is rising. It happens. It's business. 150k is outdated info that I only see golden boy referring to. As for the split I think it should be 60 canelo, 40, but I doubt they'll agree on that.

The Golovkin-Lemieux fight was only fought eleven months ago. Things haven’t changed that much. If they had, GGG would have faced Brook in the US, in front of his "millions" of fans.

Look, I'm a GGG fan, but there's really no point in pretending that he's any more popular than the numbers suggest.

Completely ignoring Golovkin vs Murray on free t.v.in the UK at a respectable time, or other Golovkin -allegedly bouts at a decent time in the UK (Simon, Ishida, Adama)