BoxRec

There have been numerous times I've come on this forum, read about a fighter and thought I want to see a bit of this guy. I look at his record, choose a fight (often one of their highest profile bouts) and go off to watch him, only to be disappointed to have chosen a stinker.

So I thought I'd start a thread where we can give each other advice on the best fights we've seen involving boxers requested by the previous poster.
Fairly straight forward, I suggest a fighter, you recommend a top quality fight (one with footage available obviously) that I could go watch, then you request a fighter and the next poster will make a recommendation

James Toney

I've watched him get whupped by Roy Jones, I've seen him as a washed up heavyweight getting beaten at cruiser by Lebedev and I watched him in a prizefighter in 2013, that should never have been sanctioned.
I know the guy was a great fighter and there are no doubt countless examples of his elite level skills out there (in a winning performance preferably)

Suggest one.

davie wrote:There have been numerous times I've come on this forum, read about a fighter and thought I want to see a bit of this guy. I look at his record, choose a fight (often one of their highest profile bouts) and go off to watch him, only to be disappointed to have chosen a stinker.

So I thought I'd start a thread where we can give each other advice on the best fights we've seen involving boxers requested by the previous poster.
Fairly straight forward, I suggest a fighter, you recommend a top quality fight (one with footage available obviously) that I could go watch, then you request a fighter and the next poster will make a recommendation

James Toney

I've watched him get whupped by Roy Jones, I've seen him as a washed up heavyweight getting beaten at cruiser by Lebedev and I watched him in a prizefighter in 2013, that should never have been sanctioned.
I know the guy was a great fighter and there are no doubt countless examples of his elite level skills out there (in a winning performance preferably)

Suggest one.

Iran Barkley.

I'd also watch him vs Michael Nunn, Reggie Johnson, Mike McCallum and Dave Tibieri.

Tomasino wrote:

davie wrote:There have been numerous times I've come on this forum, read about a fighter and thought I want to see a bit of this guy. I look at his record, choose a fight (often one of their highest profile bouts) and go off to watch him, only to be disappointed to have chosen a stinker.

So I thought I'd start a thread where we can give each other advice on the best fights we've seen involving boxers requested by the previous poster.
Fairly straight forward, I suggest a fighter, you recommend a top quality fight (one with footage available obviously) that I could go watch, then you request a fighter and the next poster will make a recommendation

James Toney

I've watched him get whupped by Roy Jones, I've seen him as a washed up heavyweight getting beaten at cruiser by Lebedev and I watched him in a prizefighter in 2013, that should never have been sanctioned.
I know the guy was a great fighter and there are no doubt countless examples of his elite level skills out there (in a winning performance preferably)

Suggest one.

Iran Barkley.

I'd also watch him vs Michael Nunn, Reggie Johnson, Mike McCallum and Dave Tibieri.

Cheers. So basically 91-93 then.
(Just remembered, reading that, I watched the Toney vs Nunn fight last year )

your pick?

Toney - Prince Charles Williams fight is probably an even better fight than those listed

I'll watch that too. Just watched the Barkley fight, Toney was excellent.

Anyhoo, you're all missing the point of the thread.
Suggest a fight then choose a fighter you want to watch, and someone else makes a suggestion of a fight, then chooses another fighter and so on.

I know you've watched almost everyone, ever C-P but there must be someone you haven't watched and would like a recommendation for?

davie wrote:

Tomasino wrote:

davie wrote:There have been numerous times I've come on this forum, read about a fighter and thought I want to see a bit of this guy. I look at his record, choose a fight (often one of their highest profile bouts) and go off to watch him, only to be disappointed to have chosen a stinker.

So I thought I'd start a thread where we can give each other advice on the best fights we've seen involving boxers requested by the previous poster.
Fairly straight forward, I suggest a fighter, you recommend a top quality fight (one with footage available obviously) that I could go watch, then you request a fighter and the next poster will make a recommendation

James Toney

I've watched him get whupped by Roy Jones, I've seen him as a washed up heavyweight getting beaten at cruiser by Lebedev and I watched him in a prizefighter in 2013, that should never have been sanctioned.
I know the guy was a great fighter and there are no doubt countless examples of his elite level skills out there (in a winning performance preferably)

Suggest one.

Iran Barkley.

I'd also watch him vs Michael Nunn, Reggie Johnson, Mike McCallum and Dave Tibieri.

Cheers. So basically 91-93 then.
(Just remembered, reading that, I watched the Toney vs Nunn fight last year )

your pick?

Marlon Starling

Vassilly Jirov is an outstanding fight

Tomasino wrote:

davie wrote:

Tomasino wrote:

Iran Barkley.

I'd also watch him vs Michael Nunn, Reggie Johnson, Mike McCallum and Dave Tibieri.

Cheers. So basically 91-93 then.
(Just remembered, reading that, I watched the Toney vs Nunn fight last year )

your pick?

Marlon Starling

Marlon Starling v Tomas Molinares - probably the most dramatic NC fight you'll ever see!!

MICHAEL MOORER.

Vassilly Jirov is an outstanding fight

No arguing there, Toney beat a tough SOB who came to put it right on him and had the strength, mentality to make it happen.
Jirov always a bit undervalued imo.

handsofstone wrote:Vassilly Jirov is an outstanding fight

Ya beat me to it. Probably the most exciting fight Toney was ever in. The Iran Barkley fight is his most dazzling performance I'd say.

Syntax Error wrote:

Tomasino wrote:

davie wrote:

Cheers. So basically 91-93 then.
(Just remembered, reading that, I watched the Toney vs Nunn fight last year )

your pick?

Marlon Starling

Marlon Starling v Tomas Molinares - probably the most dramatic NC fight you'll ever see!!

MICHAEL MOORER.

Alex Stewart...

Chartchai chionoi

I guess you've seen the efren Torres fight?

Gushinken.

Syntax Error wrote:Vassilly Jirov is an outstanding fight

I thought that was a suggestion for Moorer, then noticed you'd posted it before Tomasino posted this:

Tomasino wrote:
Marlon Starling v Tomas Molinares - probably the most dramatic NC fight you'll ever see!!

MICHAEL MOORER.

He fought Toney and Moorer 18 months apart.

Tomasino wrote:
Marlon Starling

I've only ever seen one of his fights. I watched a few Lloyd Honeyghan fights last year and I saw him look as poor as he did against Starling. He mixed it up a few times and Starling had an answer for everything he had. Not a war but a pretty polished performance.

Counter-puncher wrote:I guess you've seen the efren Torres fight?

Gushinken.

Yoko Gushiken?

I reckoned, other than yourself, we could wait a while for someone that's seen a lot of fights from a 1970s Japanese light flyweight that retired at 25.
So I decided to go watch one. Figured the best win on his record was the Martin Vargas fight, it was a dominant performance and a KO.

Geez, it took a while to get started but once it did, it wasn't a bad fight, good example of using superior reach.

But I'd probably just watch the highlights...


Next choice
David Tua.

handsofstone wrote:Vassilly Jirov is an outstanding fight

It bloody well is as well!

Thought the scorecards were wide but I did think Toney was winning.

But what an absolute testament to human endurance that fight was!

davie wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:I guess you've seen the efren Torres fight?

Gushinken.

Yoko Gushiken?

I reckoned, other than yourself, we could wait a while for someone that's seen a lot of fights from a 1970s Japanese light flyweight that retired at 25.
So I decided to go watch one. Figured the best win on his record was the Martin Vargas fight, it was a dominant performance and a KO.

Geez, it took a while to get started but once it did, it wasn't a bad fight, good example of using superior reach.

But I'd probably just watch the highlights...


Next choice
David Tua.

David Tua vs Ike Ibeabuchi - broke Compu-Box records.

Next choice
Nigel Benn

ginty wrote:for benn i'd say iran barkley and doug dewitt both easy to hit which suited benn.
a real underated fighter of that time and weight was sambu kalumbay he beat herol graham ,iran barkley and mike mccallum one after the other when no one wanted to fight those fighters he also beat steve collins

I posted this recently, regarding Sumbu Kalambay's time in the MW division.
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... u#p4378873
What a magnificent list of names and Sumbu faced a pretty impressive list himself.

Is Kalambay your next pick???

For Kalumbay it has to be the first fight against McCallum, sublime boxing

Jorge Paez

Counter-puncher wrote:For Kalumbay it has to be the first fight against McCallum, sublime boxing

Jorge Paez

Never watched him and only recognise his name from appearing on others records

but here's an interesting stat from the first title fight with Calvin Grove

"Grove knocked down three times in the 15th round.
First IBF title fight in Mexico.
Last 15-round title bout to be televised in the USA"

I might watch this one just because of it's historical significance.

Ade L wrote:
David Tua vs Ike Ibeabuchi - broke Compu-Box records.

That was one of the most enjoyable heavyweight fights i've ever watched, Ike was a machine.

It does however beg the question, was Ibeabuchi ever suspected of PED use?

His muscular frame, combined with his frightening work rate and stamina, raise suspicions.
He wasn't even blowing and still moving on his toes and looking fresh into the 12th round.

He also absorbed some solid lefty hooks and overhand rights from Tua, without ever looking buzzed.

If that was a natural performance, the big guy had a lot of potential.

Counter-puncher wrote:For Kalumbay it has to be the first fight against McCallum, sublime boxing

Jorge Paez

A boxing lesson there for McCallum, Sumbu barely put a foot wrong and I only gave McCallum the 3rd round in an almost complete shut out.

My biggest disappointment, was Mikes tactics and the inability to change what he was doing despite the fact it obviously wasn't working.

For a man named the body snatcher, you'd have thought there was an obvious tactical shift, when he spent most of the night working unsuccessfully to the head.
And for christ sake, cut the bloody ring off and stop letting him circle to his left!