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He's the total package and looks at his opponents all menacing like the fighters from the 70s and 80s. He's so good nobody in his division dares to

mention his name https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJToOZLYZFY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIkC_WYnXzg

There's not fighter ALIVE more scarier than Luis Ortiz! He's the brand new CURRENT Ike Ibeabuchi and Prime Tyson! Nobody wants none of his work!

He's been calling out everyone they all running! Dumb Oscar how could he not promote Luis Ortiz's style? WOW!

Nuff respect for the longest topic title ever.

Luis Ortiz is going to get KO'ed by Wlad.

Wilder is easily the most avoided active HW.

Luis Ortiz is a steroids cheater who is making a mess of his career by ducking a WBA-mandated fight with Alexander Ustinov and leaving a very good promoter in Golden Boy.

Marchegiano wrote: Wilder is easily the most avoided active HW.

Briggs asked him, Wilder begged off, Mansour, same story, Billy Wright, same story, Klitschko, same story, Fury, both in fact, same story, Povetkin, many, many times. Actually, I can't remember any boxer at all ducking him. AJ in the beginning of his carreer, knowing he still has to build up, but that's really it.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Nuff respect for the longest topic title ever.

Luis Ortiz is going to get KO'ed by Wlad.

I want some of what your smoking man!!! Ortiz destroys Vladimir I mean completely and utterly destroys Vladimir, career ending hospitalising brutal ko of Vladimir. I'd put my nutsack on it..

Freedom2013 wrote:Luis Ortiz is a steroids cheater who is making a mess of his career by ducking a WBA-mandated fight with Alexander Ustinov and leaving a very good promoter in Golden Boy.

not tue ustinov wouldnt take a vada test and said if he must take vada test then he isnt fighting ...............ustinov chicken sh......ttt

Beating a 44 year old and another guy who both have been beaten doesn't make you the king.

In the know 85 wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Nuff respect for the longest topic title ever.

Luis Ortiz is going to get KO'ed by Wlad.

I want some of what your smoking man!!! Ortiz destroys Vladimir I mean completely and utterly destroys Vladimir, career ending hospitalising brutal ko of Vladimir. I'd put my nutsack on it..

Damn, this KNOWN steroid cheat has really inspired some confidence in you.

Ortiz is a 6'3"/6'4" fighter without significant speed. Wlad has learned how to "effectively smother"
smaller fighters.

Takes more than knocking out Bryant Jennings to be anointed the new King of Boxing.

asdfjkl wrote:

Marchegiano wrote: Wilder is easily the most avoided active HW.

Briggs asked him, Wilder begged off, Mansour, same story, Billy Wright, same story, Klitschko, same story, Fury, both in fact, same story, Povetkin, many, many times. Actually, I can't remember any boxer at all ducking him. AJ in the beginning of his carreer, knowing he still has to build up, but that's really it.

Nope, pal, yer just a counterfeit and a moron who likes to pick up a story about halfway through. Who called out who first and who gave the reason "we're not ready"?


Was that Team Wilder back 2012-2014 calling out names was it? Back when Cannon's answer to Wilder was " He's not going anywhere why would I fight him?" and Team Fury's answer was " We're not ready"? How about Team Klitschko? Back when their answer was "Mandatories"? Back when you honks didn't know enough about Kong to pretend like you've been following Kong for years?


I'm just curious how you got this narrative to Wilder's career. The whole way up he was calling mother fuckers out trying to get a fight worth a fornicate and all you ever heard was " I'm not fighting him". He becomes champion and all of a sudden he's been ducking them? Yer a fornicating idiot pal.


Especially Povetkin......I can't see how you could possibly be that stupid, so let me lay it out like this. In the past decade how many agreed fights have been delayed or called off by Team Wilder? How many by Povetkin? Would this be the first time Pov's been caught cheating? How about the first time he's delayed a title opportunity? How about the first time he's been denied a mando slot? None of the above? Not his first rodeo? Well for a fella not at all scared of anyone and totally willing to fight a fair fight he is mysteriously never ready for the show. It's totally Wlad and Deontay who were ducking though.....sure....not some pussy who has been a top ten HW for ten years just to manage what took Haye a couple years. Why is that? I mean if he's not a pussy who avoids people why is it Haye's done what it took him a decade to do in two? Why is it Wilder was even in position to get a WBC from Bermane? What the fornicate was this guy up to? Taking the easiest position available that's what the fornicate he's been up to, and that is what it means to be a duck.

In the know 85 wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Nuff respect for the longest topic title ever.

Luis Ortiz is going to get KO'ed by Wlad.

I want some of what your smoking man!!! Ortiz destroys Vladimir I mean completely and utterly destroys Vladimir, career ending hospitalising brutal ko of Vladimir. I'd put my nutsack on it..

Marchegiano wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Marchegiano wrote: Wilder is easily the most avoided active HW.

Briggs asked him, Wilder begged off, Mansour, same story, Billy Wright, same story, Klitschko, same story, Fury, both in fact, same story, Povetkin, many, many times. Actually, I can't remember any boxer at all ducking him. AJ in the beginning of his carreer, knowing he still has to build up, but that's really it.

Nope, pal, yer just a counterfeit and a moron who likes to pick up a story about halfway through. Who called out who first and who gave the reason "we're not ready"?


Was that Team Wilder back 2012-2014 calling out names was it? Back when Cannon's answer to Wilder was " He's not going anywhere why would I fight him?" and Team Fury's answer was " We're not ready"? How about Team Klitschko? Back when their answer was "Mandatories"? Back when you honks didn't know enough about Kong to pretend like you've been following Kong for years?


I'm just curious how you got this narrative to Wilder's career. The whole way up he was calling mother fuckers out trying to get a fight worth a eff and all you ever heard was " I'm not fighting him". He becomes champion and all of a sudden he's been ducking them? Yer a effing idiot pal.


Especially Povetkin......I can't see how you could possibly be that stupid, so let me lay it out like this. In the past decade how many agreed fights have been delayed or called off by Team Wilder? How many by Povetkin? Would this be the first time Pov's been caught cheating? How about the first time he's delayed a title opportunity? How about the first time he's been denied a mando slot? None of the above? Not his first rodeo? Well for a fella not at all scared of anyone and totally willing to fight a fair fight he is mysteriously never ready for the show. It's totally Wlad and Deontay who were ducking though.....sure....not some pussy who has been a top ten HW for ten years just to manage what took Haye a couple years. Why is that? I mean if he's not a pussy who avoids people why is it Haye's done what it took him a decade to do in two? Why is it Wilder was even in position to get a WBC from Bermane? What the eff was this guy up to? Taking the easiest position available that's what the eff he's been up to, and that is what it means to be a duck.

Briggs, Mansour, Hughie Fury, Wright, many people challenged him, but who does he chose? Someone that isn't ready for it, someone who doesn't expect it. All Wilder his recent opponends weren't at their top when they faced Wilder, they either improved after their fight, or were already declining big time. Duhaupas improved massively when he received a world titleshot unexpected. Szpilka, same story, just look at recent pictures of him and compare them to when he fought Wilder. Klitschko has challenged Wilder many times and even openly stated that he wasn't expecting Wilder to fight such terrible opposition once he received that belt. Vitali probably would have never given it away like that if he knew.
And about Kong, his competition before Jennings was really really weak, at the time I actually expected Jennings to win TBH. Wilder didn't even dare to schedule a fight against top competition at all lol. Just talks talks talks and bullshit offers, unless you accept to stop the fight, when there seems to be a chance Wilder is losing. Or if everybody with a brain knows his opponend has absolutely no chance at all. And about Wilder, even in his 6th ish fight people already wondered if this guy was ever going to step up in competition. This since an olympic medalist ofcourse shouldn't continue to fight guys with only losing records, or max 1 win till his 7th fight, when he fought a guy that only fought guys with losing records himself as well. Please show me where Wilder challenged anyone? The only moment Wilder challenges someone is when he knows it's impossible that the fight will actually happen. He knew Povetkin took meldonium in 2015, so he knew that that would be visable in Povetkin's body, that's why he all of a sudden screamed all over the world that he wanted to fight Povetkin, because he knew it wouldn't happen. Same way with AJ, AJ said he wasn't ready for Wilder yet, and suddenly Wilder challenged him. Briggs challenged Wilder, Wilder didn't dare to, then eventually Wilder made a mistake and on youtube said he wanted to fight Briggs, then his manager offered 500k, Briggs accepted, they said we'll call you back. Then they called him back saying they only wanted to offer 300k?! Briggs still accepted, then once again Wilder his manager said we'll call you back. Then they called him back, saying they only wanted to offer 200k?! Briggs still accepted and even said he wanted to fight for free if he had to. Then Wilder and his team said oh wait, you're not in the top 15 of the WBC, so we can't fight you! And ducked Briggs anyway. Later Arreola wasn't even in the top 40 of the WBC any more Wilder made a phonecall and all of a sudden Arreola was ranked 7 or so, can you imagine it?! It's ridiculous. In other words proving that the ranking excuse was absolutely 100% bullshit. Wilder is the American version of David Haye.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

In the know 85 wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Nuff respect for the longest topic title ever.

Luis Ortiz is going to get KO'ed by Wlad.

I want some of what your smoking man!!! Ortiz destroys Vladimir I mean completely and utterly destroys Vladimir, career ending hospitalising brutal ko of Vladimir. I'd put my nutsack on it..

Damn, this KNOWN steroid cheat has really inspired some confidence in you.

Ortiz is a 6'3"/6'4" fighter without significant speed. Wlad has learned how to "effectively smother"
smaller fighters.

You've just shown me everything I need to know about your boxing knowledge!

Your opinion is that of a crack head! If you think Ortiz is a smaller heavyweight, your effing deluded! Vladimir wouldn't get near him, watch the Jennings fight steroid cheat that's still allowed to box??? Could it have been that bad?? Either way he's the best heavyweight on the planet, and within 18 months the old Cuban will show you just how stupid you sound! Good luck betting against Ortiz! You'll soon be broke!

The common thread with Ortiz's opponents is that they aren't tall guys with a strong jab. The Ibeabuchi comparison is also a bit much. Ibeabuchi was sharper and more accurate with his punches. His punch sharpness was nasty (see that finishing uppercut on Byrd). Ortiz still looks a bit off. He is patient though. He waits for the opening and doesn't put himself in unnecessary danger. You know he's well schooled, coming from Cuba. I believe he will improve. Question is, can he find the opening against a giant jabber like Klitschko or Joshua? He may have to create his own opportunities against them. Against Wilder or Fury, though, he most definitely could floor either one of them because Fury leaves himself wide open and Wilder is a sloppy puncher who doesn't jab consistently and leaves himself open every time he misses with those hooks. Ortiz could easily take the WBA or WBC titles if he gets the opportunity.

I don't think Ortiz has natural great power. Just throws a lot of punches.

Ortiz has been sparring with Trevor Bryan the past couple weeks!