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Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 04 Oct 2016, 14:45
by Fitzy901
I have watched about thirty seconds of Bj fight and I believe he has NO chance whatsoever.
Does anyone disagree with me?
Eddie also mentioned that Haye will be at the fight and may even be doing punditry for Sky I believe? I would like to see Bellew box Haye before he faces in mandatory against Bredis.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 04 Oct 2016, 14:49
by Rexob
I think your right, Bellew will be cashing in now he is champ for a while yet.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 04 Oct 2016, 14:51
by Fitzy901
Rexob wrote:I think your right, Bellew will be cashing in now he is champ for a while yet.
I would rather see box Haye then Breidis but a lot of people would disagree no doubt. I think for his bank balance it makes sense and it is a way back onto Sky for Mr Haye.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 04 Oct 2016, 14:52
by Rexob
Yeah I'd like to see the Haye fight I think Bellew will destroy Haye at this point.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 04 Oct 2016, 15:04
by Stuarty
Rexob wrote:Yeah I'd like to see the Haye fight I think Bellew will destroy Haye at this point.
Really? I think Haye would smash Bellew up no bother at all.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 04 Oct 2016, 15:11
by davie
Stuarty30 wrote:Rexob wrote:Yeah I'd like to see the Haye fight I think Bellew will destroy Haye at this point.
Really? I think Haye would smash Bellew up no bother at all.
I suspect people biases may be at play here.
Not that I am innocent of such things, I'm convinced Haye destroys Bellend
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 04 Oct 2016, 15:15
by lillywhite14
Haye smashes Bellew to bits at any point in his lifetime imo. Just waaaaay better, in every aspect.
Bellew defending his "world title" ( strap ) against Flores is a pretty rubbish fight for that level. It's actually worse than the match up where he won the vacant belt, which was a pretty low standard for a title fight.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 04 Oct 2016, 15:17
by Deserter
Stuarty30 wrote:Rexob wrote:Yeah I'd like to see the Haye fight I think Bellew will destroy Haye at this point.
Really? I think Haye would smash Bellew up no bother at all.
Agreed. He'd walk right through him.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 04 Oct 2016, 15:22
by Rexob
Haye looked shite in his last 2 fights, out way too long and was very slow, he's shot to pieces I reckon. Punchers chance.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 04 Oct 2016, 15:23
by Monte Fisto
Bellew would be hurt like never before. But also get paid like never before and he knows that.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 04 Oct 2016, 15:25
by Rexob
95gerog wrote:Bellew would be hurt like never before. But also get paid like never before and he knows that.
Yes great payday for Bellew but haye is 5 years past his best at least.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 04 Oct 2016, 16:31
by Monte Fisto
I just still think thats good enough for haye to deal with bellew. I think theyre on complete different levels although it would be more interesting if it was at cruiser.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 04 Oct 2016, 17:21
by Fitzy901
I still think Haye knocks Bellew out, I like Bellew but there was nothing in his last performance to suggest he can beat Haye imo.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 06 Oct 2016, 06:15
by Finn
Rexob wrote:Haye looked shite in his last 2 fights, out way too long and was very slow, he's shot to pieces I reckon. Punchers chance.
That's a pretty bold statement considering he didn't get hit once in either fight and beat his opponents unconscious without even breaking a sweat.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 06 Oct 2016, 14:58
by bigjack
Stuarty30 wrote:Rexob wrote:Yeah I'd like to see the Haye fight I think Bellew will destroy Haye at this point.
Really? I think Haye would smash Bellew up no bother at all.
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Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 06 Oct 2016, 15:39
by crusader
Finn wrote:Rexob wrote:Haye looked shite in his last 2 fights, out way too long and was very slow, he's shot to pieces I reckon. Punchers chance.
That's a pretty bold statement considering he didn't get hit once in either fight and beat his opponents unconscious without even breaking a sweat.
Gjerjag was knocked unconscious, yet finished the fight standing and was smiling almost immediately after?
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 06 Oct 2016, 15:42
by Rexob
Yeah, both all time greats them 2.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 06 Oct 2016, 15:46
by Rexob
95gerog wrote:I just still think thats good enough for haye to deal with bellew. I think theyre on complete different levels although it would be more interesting if it was at cruiser.
Yes I thought we where talking about it being at cruiserweight.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 06 Oct 2016, 15:48
by Stuarty
Rexob wrote:95gerog wrote:I just still think thats good enough for haye to deal with bellew. I think theyre on complete different levels although it would be more interesting if it was at cruiser.
Yes I thought we where talking about it being at cruiserweight.
I can't see Haye making cruiser again. Obviously anything above cruiser is heavy but maybe they could agree to a catch weight?
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 06 Oct 2016, 16:30
by Finn
crusader wrote:Finn wrote:Rexob wrote:Haye looked shite in his last 2 fights, out way too long and was very slow, he's shot to pieces I reckon. Punchers chance.
That's a pretty bold statement considering he didn't get hit once in either fight and beat his opponents unconscious without even breaking a sweat.
Gjerjag was knocked unconscious, yet finished the fight standing and was smiling almost immediately after?
I think you're being pedantic; Gjerjag was stopped on his feet during the 10 count after struggling to get off the canvas and not being in any condition to continue. Either the way point stands - it's a bold statement to make when when haye won both fights with such ease, without being tested at all.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 06 Oct 2016, 16:34
by crusader
I'm being no more pedantic than you are hyperbolous.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 06 Oct 2016, 16:40
by Rexob
Finn wrote:crusader wrote:Finn wrote:
That's a pretty bold statement considering he didn't get hit once in either fight and beat his opponents unconscious without even breaking a sweat.
Gjerjag was knocked unconscious, yet finished the fight standing and was smiling almost immediately after?
I think you're being pedantic; Gjerjag was stopped on his feet during the 10 count after struggling to get off the canvas and not being in any condition to continue. Either the way point stands - it's a bold statement to make when when haye won both fights with such ease, without being tested at all.
As I said before those 2 opponents were worthy Hall of famers, especially chosen, for their lack of ability to make Haye look good and high ranking. Anybody could see in the first 30 seconds of both fights Haye was slow cumbersome and when he threw combinations he looked shite, over the hill and shot, soon as he gets in with Joshua, he will melt into oblivion with another 15 million quid in the bank.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 06 Oct 2016, 19:08
by Finn
crusader wrote:I'm being no more pedantic than you are hyperbolous.
I'm sure you know what hyperbole means as well as I do.
Re: Tony Bellew v BJ Flores
Posted: 07 Oct 2016, 05:42
by PredatorHayds
Bellew needs a escape plan. He's after big money fight and the Briedis mandatory is a banana skin he could do without.
I see Bellew beating Flores and if the WBC enforce the mandatory losing his title to Briedis. He's already had a big payday against Clev. He needs to give up a lot of weight if he wants one against Haye.
Expect the Sky machine to turn Lebedev into a pound for pound superstar similar to how they did with Linares and push for a unification. He needs a way out of the Briedis fight. Huge risk little reward.