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If it isn't Briggs I can't ever take this guy serious again.

NOW HERE THIS!!

Surely now it is a choice of two for Joshua :

1/ Wlad if the titles are freed up and all the other boxes can be ticked.
2/ Parker if the above cannot be fulfilled.

With Haye sounding like he is on the undercard.

If option one above happens, Parker could then fight Ruiz for the WBO title or wait until next year and fight his mandatory for the IBF title.

asdfjkl wrote:If it isn't Briggs I can't ever take this guy serious again.

What? How has the Briggs show gained any legitimacy?

Like a Boss wrote:Surely now it is a choice of two for Joshua :

1/ Wlad if the titles are freed up and all the other boxes can be ticked.
2/ Parker if the above cannot be fulfilled.

With Haye sounding like he is on the undercard.

If option one above happens, Parker could then fight Ruiz for the WBO title or wait until next year and fight his mandatory for the IBF title.

You think Haye would fight on an undercard?

crusader wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:Surely now it is a choice of two for Joshua :

1/ Wlad if the titles are freed up and all the other boxes can be ticked.
2/ Parker if the above cannot be fulfilled.

With Haye sounding like he is on the undercard.

If option one above happens, Parker could then fight Ruiz for the WBO title or wait until next year and fight his mandatory for the IBF title.

You think Haye would fight on an undercard?

He would if it was financially alluring to him I'm sure. Also if Hearn has dangled the carrot of Joshua vs Haye next summer as an incentive- I'm sure he'd jump at it. No worse than main eventing on 'Dave' in fairness.

lefty wrote:

crusader wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:Surely now it is a choice of two for Joshua :

1/ Wlad if the titles are freed up and all the other boxes can be ticked.
2/ Parker if the above cannot be fulfilled.

With Haye sounding like he is on the undercard.

If option one above happens, Parker could then fight Ruiz for the WBO title or wait until next year and fight his mandatory for the IBF title.

You think Haye would fight on an undercard?

He would if it was financially alluring to him I'm sure. Also if Hearn has dangled the carrot of Joshua vs Haye next summer as an incentive- I'm sure he'd jump at it. No worse than main eventing on 'Dave' in fairness.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:If it isn't Briggs I can't ever take this guy serious again.

What? How has the Briggs show gained any legitimacy?

He has defeated a longer string of bums since a Klit loss than Haye has

Haye did over 3 million on that channel and I think both his comeback fights were 15k+ sellouts. These were fights with relative nobodies too.

Is Joshua even a bigger draw than Haye, and if he is by how much? I imagine a card with both of them in separate fights would be very costly, although viewership would be good.

crusader wrote:Haye did over 3 million on that channel and I think both his comeback fights were 15k+ sellouts. These were fights with relative nobodies too.

Is Joshua even a bigger draw than Haye?

Probably not.

crusader wrote:Haye did over 3 million on that channel and I think both his comeback fights were 15k+ sellouts. These were fights with relative nobodies too.

Is Joshua even a bigger draw than Haye?

'Dave' is a channel that's available on freeview so that plays a part. No doubting that Haye isn't a big draw in his own right though.

Joshua did 450k PPV buys in a british title fight against Whyte at £17 a piece. That's pretty impressive to be fair.

Is headlining a card that does over 3 million viewers, even on free TV, really no better than being on a Joshua undercard? Considering that Haye is obviously still a major casual draw even against nobodies, it seems to me like it could be difficult to get him to fight as a lesser man on one of AJ's undercards.

I guess it could be done with loads of $$$$$ though.

While DAVE is a free channel its marketing of the fight was non-existent unless you watched the channel or are a fight fan. Haye doing 3m on there is very impressive, especially given the opponent and Haye's lay off.

I just think that he might be willing to be on the undercard as co-main event to help promote the Joshua fight even more. Seems odd that Hearn is looking at pushing Joshua-Klitschko back to December the 10th otherwise. He'd want Joshua-Klitschko to be as big as it possibly can and having them fight on the same night that Haye is fighting seems a silly idea. It would eat into the PPV buys if Haye was fighting a decent opponent on 'Dave'.

Actually it would eat into the audience even if Haye is fighting another patsy.

I reckon it might be Joshua vs Klitschko with Haye vs Price as co-main event. If not Price then Briggs.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:While DAVE is a free channel its marketing of the fight was non-existent unless you watched the channel or are a fight fan. Haye doing 3m on there is very impressive, especially given the opponent and Haye's lay off.

It is but word of mouth would spread quickly and people would tune in. Also Haye is very savvy social media wise which helps in terms of promotion.

asdfjkl wrote:If it isn't Briggs I can't ever take this guy serious again.

I have no idea how a real boxing fan could take Briggs more seriously as an opponent than someone like Duhaupas, Stiverne, Jennings, Fedosov, Washington, or Whyte. Briggs objectively deserves a lower ranking than any of them, he hasn't beat anyone with a pulse since 2006, his pineapple hairstyle made him look like a clown, and he acts like a clown. Briggs might as well be wearing actual clown make-up and you're pointing at him and saying "This is the most serious human being on planet Earth."

lefty wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:While DAVE is a free channel its marketing of the fight was non-existent unless you watched the channel or are a fight fan. Haye doing 3m on there is very impressive, especially given the opponent and Haye's lay off.

It is but word of mouth would spread quickly and people would tune in. Also Haye is very savvy social media wise which helps in terms of promotion.

Yes but none of that compares to proper advertising on the main channels. Social media is mostly aimed at a certain demographic, one where boxing has limited appeal. 3m is fantastic numbers.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

lefty wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:While DAVE is a free channel its marketing of the fight was non-existent unless you watched the channel or are a fight fan. Haye doing 3m on there is very impressive, especially given the opponent and Haye's lay off.

It is but word of mouth would spread quickly and people would tune in. Also Haye is very savvy social media wise which helps in terms of promotion.

Yes but none of that compares to proper advertising on the main channels. Social media is mostly aimed at a certain demographic, one where boxing has limited appeal. 3m is fantastic numbers.

Yeah I'm not arguing with that. 3 million is still a great number for a channel like that. I think Joshua and Haye are pretty equal give or take a little drawing power wise.

The pair of them fighting would draw huge numbers I'd imagine and will probably happen at Wembley.

Boxing media and the jungle drums seem to be beating the name Lucas Browne.

Shannon Briggs or anybody in the Top 30 or 40 at the very least hopefully.

Browne would be respectable, but please not Briggs. He hasn't beaten a decent opponent in 10 years, and he's now 6 years older than he was when Vitali hospitalized him. Don't let the talking fool you into believing that he's better than he is...

I will genuinely worry for Briggs' health if he fights Haye, and I hope Davey would show some mercy and target the body.

crusader wrote:Browne would be respectable, but please not Briggs. He hasn't beaten a decent opponent in 10 years, and he's now 6 years older than he was when Vitali hospitalized him. Don't let the talking fool you into believing that he's better than he is...

I will genuinely worry for Briggs' health if he fights Haye, and I hope Davey would show some mercy and target the body.

Oquendo would be a much safer fight for Browne than Haye. It would also give Browne the bargaining power of the WBA belt if he met Haye afterwards.

de Mori, whom Haye absolutely obliterated, was once a regular sparring partner and sometime friend of Browne. I don't think they speak these days. But if they did, I think de Mori would be strongly recommending Oquendo over Haye.

Joseph Parker's team is booked for 10th December possibly against Andy Ruiz Jr for soon to be vacant WBA and WBO titles

http://www.newshub.co.nz/sport/video-de ... 2016053016

The WBO are due to convene in Puerto Rico on October 18 to discuss Tyson Fury's situation. Until that is resolved it is hard to see how fights involving that title can be signed off on.

Joseph Parker's promoter Dean Lonergan will be in attendance in Puerto Rico, eager to hear the outcome.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/ar ... d=11723753