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Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 09:44
by Killer Blow
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 10:05
by littlepug
very interesting
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 10:21
by afcmarshall
Looking forward to seeing what Matchroom line up for him.
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 10:26
by twlyall
Interesting signing for Hearn. If Ortiz is to based in the UK (does anyone know?), it is quite interesting to see how Hearn will match him.
Will Matchroom let Ortiz fight its other HW-prospects Whyte and/or AJ? Will Hearn take Ortiz down the "British road" with fights against people like Chisora, Price, Allen etc.? Or will he manage him as the global fighter and pursue the same kind of fights Ortiz was targeting when he was at GB? Im inclined to think that its the latter option. How do you see it?
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 10:57
by bigman1968
twlyall wrote:Interesting signing for Hearn. If Ortiz is to based in the UK (does anyone know?), it is quite interesting to see how Hearn will match him.
Will Matchroom let Ortiz fight its other HW-prospects Whyte and/or AJ? Will Hearn take Ortiz down the "British road" with fights against people like Chisora, Price, Allen etc.? Or will he manage him as the global fighter and pursue the same kind of fights Ortiz was targeting when he was at GB? Im inclined to think that its the latter option. How do you see it?
Ortiz don't have the years to walk the "British road". To AJ is too valuable to risk against Ortiz. And I really don't know what MR can do better than GB in global....
We'll see if it was wise from Ortiz side to waste a year for this.
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 11:37
by SaadOffTheDeck
I never thought I'd say this about Ortiz. That's a good move.
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 11:39
by BitPlayer
Wow, could we see Joshua Vs Ortiz? (After eddie has built up his name a bit).
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 11:52
by Evander
Ortiz won't have to worry about dodgy judges or referees again, a certain promoter already has that angle covered.
Hardly any wonder Ricky Burns was given gift decisions and Carl Froch saved by referees
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Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 12:05
by Enlightened-One
If this news is true, it's a great move for Ortiz.
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 12:15
by Killer Blow
Enlightened-One wrote:If this news is true, it's a great move for Ortiz.
Why wouldn't it be true? Eddie's put out 3 tweets about it and it's on the sky sports website.
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 12:48
by Evander
He's probably questioning the validity of it due to the source, now it may well be true but hand on heart do you really believe that this promoter is on the up and up.
Many of his fighters have been involved in robberies of one kind or another, just look at Ricky Burns and Carl Froch stopping of George Groves in their 1st fight, hardly what you call a stand up guy now is he.
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 12:52
by SaadOffTheDeck
Stand up guy is a description I've never heard used for a Boxing promoter. It's being reported here too, no reason to think it's false. Though Froch never once needed help in his career. I thought that was a bit premature, it saved Groves from an inevitable KO.
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 12:55
by Enlightened-One
Killer Blow wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:If this news is true, it's a great move for Ortiz.
Why wouldn't it be true? Eddie's put out 3 tweets about it and it's on the sky sports website.
It probably is true. The only reason why I used the word "if" was because this forum and sometimes Tweets can occasionally be based on rumour.
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 12:57
by ValMar
Very good news !
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 13:13
by Evander
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Stand up guy is a description I've never heard used for a Boxing promoter. It's being reported here too, no reason to think it's false. Though Froch never once needed help in his career. I thought that was a bit premature, it saved Groves from an inevitable KO.
Yeah ok you just keep convincing yourself.
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 13:31
by SaadOffTheDeck
Evander wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Stand up guy is a description I've never heard used for a Boxing promoter. It's being reported here too, no reason to think it's false. Though Froch never once needed help in his career. I thought that was a bit premature, it saved Groves from an inevitable KO.
Yeah ok you just keep convincing yourself.
Will do, you keep clinging to the thought that groves could ever beat froch.
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 13:43
by Evander
I don't cling to any such thought of a boxer beating a matchroom fighter anymore, pretty clear how they have operated over the years.
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 13:45
by gilgamesh
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I never thought I'd say this about Ortiz. That's a good move.
Yeah definitely. Eddie Hearn has become one of the real movers and shakers in Boxing lately. He's putting good fights together on a regular basis. Ortiz will definitely get more opportunities and a busier schedule fighting for him.
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 14:23
by asdfjkl
Now I guess I understand what Haye means by "you will be happy" without naming Briggs...
Oh wait, ofcourse not, Ortiz is way too good compared too Haye, Haye would never agree on him either.
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 14:33
by Rexob
Ahh good hope he can make some decent money before he's done.
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 15:00
by lefty
fornicating awesome signing! I normally shit on Eddie but top man for this.
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 17:39
by lefty
Whilst I think Ortiz is a top heavyweight talent wise; one thing that we still don't really know as fans is what his durability is like. Does he have a good chin or does he have a glass chin? Or something in between maybe. Kayode was a blown up cruiserweight in fairness and Jennings- as good a fighter he is, he's not exactly a puncher which I think most people would agree with. You then have the Thompson fight but he looked shot to shit so you can't really gauge anything from that.
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 18:49
by Grailer
lefty wrote:Whilst I think Ortiz is a top heavyweight talent wise; one thing that we still don't really know as fans is what his durability is like. Does he have a good chin or does he have a glass chin? Or something in between maybe. Kayode was a blown up cruiserweight in fairness and Jennings- as good a fighter he is, he's not exactly a puncher which I think most people would agree with. You then have the Thompson fight but he looked shot to poo so you can't really gauge anything from that.
Just by looking at his neck he probably can take a decent punch
And the way he fights aggressively means he is confident
in his ability to take a punch else he would fight alot
more defensively minded
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 22:11
by Cutman Scabbers
Wow, Matchroom locking up the heavyweight division!
Re: Breaking news: Ortiz signs with Matchroom
Posted: 08 Oct 2016, 22:25
by lefty
Grailer wrote:lefty wrote:Whilst I think Ortiz is a top heavyweight talent wise; one thing that we still don't really know as fans is what his durability is like. Does he have a good chin or does he have a glass chin? Or something in between maybe. Kayode was a blown up cruiserweight in fairness and Jennings- as good a fighter he is, he's not exactly a puncher which I think most people would agree with. You then have the Thompson fight but he looked shot to poo so you can't really gauge anything from that.
Just by looking at his neck he probably can take a decent punch
And the way he fights aggressively means he is confident
in his ability to take a punch else he would fight alot
more defensively minded
He is aggressive but he's still a counter puncher by nature but he does it on the front foot which is fun to watch.