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From the 9 min mark he talks about Haye being a Cruiserweight, and goes on to say that he walks around as a crusierweight but goes out to Miami, gets big, and then comes back as a heavyweight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUtCdINYTWc

load of bollocks, he just trying to sell the fight to the idiots that bought into brook v ggg

'goes out to Miami' can become a new forum euphemism, like 'nights out with Kid Galahad's brother'

I've heard Dave Coldwell shouldn't be trusted.

Counter-puncher wrote:'goes out to Miami' can become a new forum euphemism, like 'nights out with Kid Galahad's brother'

Aye, exactly that. Very naughty of Coldwell. I have seen Haye between fights and he is not a cruiserweight.

He was 210 for Wlad & Audley - but was a fairly vascular 224 in his last fight:

It must be all that vegan food.

If he could come in at cruiser he'd be faster and ko bellend quicker

G0mez wrote:He was 210 for Wlad & Audley - but was a fairly vascular 224 in his last fight:

It must be all that vegan food.

Vegan gainz innit

bripez wrote:

G0mez wrote:He was 210 for Wlad & Audley - but was a fairly vascular 224 in his last fight:

It must be all that vegan food.

Vegan gainz innit

Vegainz?

Nothing to see here. Haye just has a great Juicer at home.

Ah well I must be off my head as I just saw a clear 10lb extra bodyfat on him and maybe 5lb muscle which i'd expect after a break and having not depleted for a while. Being vascular is not the indicator of leanness and I would go for the thick skin and less muscular definition.

Never mind, must be juicing and my eyes deceiving me.

Counter-puncher wrote:'goes out to Miami' can become a new forum euphemism, like 'nights out with Kid Galahad's brother'

I could go a few nights out with him! I've let my shìt slide the last few years!

mickey1975 wrote:I've heard Dave Coldwell shouldn't be trusted.

That's right. He talks as though he's 10 men but won't walk around sheffield lol what a Richard he is and a coward

I don't care how Haye gained his fat, he should just fight Briggs like he promised, if he doesn't I'm not interested.

asdfjkl wrote:I don't care how Haye gained his fat, he should just fight Briggs like he promised, if he doesn't I'm not interested.

Why do you want him yo fight Briggs? Briggs is an old man who should have stayed retired. He would get beat down and that on old men isn't fair

tobyh5 wrote:Ah well I must be off my head as I just saw a clear 10lb extra bodyfat on him and maybe 5lb muscle which i'd expect after a break and having not depleted for a while. Being vascular is not the indicator of leanness and I would go for the thick skin and less muscular definition.

Never mind, must be juicing and my eyes deceiving me.

Ya, to me it looks like he's carrying more fat than he used to, not like he's added a bunch of muscle.

G0mez wrote:He was 210 for Wlad & Audley - but was a fairly vascular 224 in his last fight:

It must be all that vegan food.

Does the vast gulf in the quality of opposition not play a part in this though?
He came in looking like a Greek god every time he expected a tough twelve round fight with naturally bigger men, but against a guy he knew he could walk through in his sleep he didn't feel the need to do the extra conditioning work and came in a few pounds heavier and a bit softer around the mid section.

keirw wrote: Does the vast gulf in the quality of opposition not play a part in this though?
He came in looking like a Greek god every time he expected a tough twelve round fight with naturally bigger men, but against a guy he knew he could walk through in his sleep he didn't feel the need to do the extra conditioning work and came in a few pounds heavier and a bit softer around the mid section.

Yes probably, but that would spoil our fun here.

I'm sure Haye comes on here and chuckles.

where is Spud nowadays, anyway?

coldwell on hormone changes..............https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-kL9LNIcAA2Cxm.jpg

Counter-puncher wrote:where is Spud nowadays, anyway?

I know he had some health issues, wasn't it parkinsons?

I'm pretty sure that if Haye wasn't using weights, and was fit, he could walk around under or near the cruiser limit, he's not a naturally huge bloke, he's shifted loads of weights to put on all that bulk.

If you compare his body type to genuine heavyweights, he's far more slightly built.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I'm pretty sure that if Haye wasn't using weights, and was fit, he could walk around under or near the cruiser limit, he's not a naturally huge bloke, he's shifted loads of weights to put on all that bulk.

If you compare his body type to genuine heavyweights, he's far more slightly built.

I think the words to sum it up are Ectomorph vs Mesomorph.

Hard Gainer vs Mass Monster

G0mez wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I'm pretty sure that if Haye wasn't using weights, and was fit, he could walk around under or near the cruiser limit, he's not a naturally huge bloke, he's shifted loads of weights to put on all that bulk.

If you compare his body type to genuine heavyweights, he's far more slightly built.

I think the words to sum it up are Ectomorph vs Mesomorph.

Hard Gainer vs Mass Monster

I wouldn't call him a hard gainer - he's certainly put on a lot of muscle. Aren't mesomorphs people who can gain or lose weight readily?

The old Ectomorph mesomorph endomorph classifications are a bit prehistoric now though, they are more about rough body types.

If I was a gym monster, I'd probably be able to hit 220 with the right supplementation. I'm 210 right now, and probably about 10 lbs overweight, but not been able to life weights for a year due to a shoulder injury (now thankfully healed).

I'm certainly not built like a heavyweight though.

Anyone who saw Haye at the weekend and thinks Coldwell isn't at least vaguely onto something is a bit dim IMO. Haye looked relatively thin on Saturday night.