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Round-By-Round - James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 25 Oct 2016, 13:38
by wesshaw1985
http://www.BS.com/badou-jack-v ... 14--110086

Badou Jack ‏@BadouJack - 9 minutes ago -Enterprise, NV
ITS OFFICIAL! Badou Jack vs James Degale! WBC & IBF UNIFICATION live on @ShowtimeBoxing January 14th! #TheBestFightingTheBest #TeamJack

James DeGale ‏@jamesdegale1 - 4 minutes ago
I told you in was coming... My next fight 14th January against @BadouJack #unification #ibf #wbc

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 25 Oct 2016, 14:30
by Stuarty
Good stuff. I'll go with a DeGale points victory in a scrappy but entertaining fight.

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 25 Oct 2016, 14:32
by TheCobra
Good matchup, probably won't be great to watch but definitely fairly intriguing one for boxing fans. DeGale can do this, Jack isn't owt special but one of those who probably is underrated in terms of what he does and how effective he is with his style. I take DeGale points, close one though.

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 25 Oct 2016, 14:39
by littlepug
degale for me too, although much depends on who behaves themselves over Christmas !

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 05:34
by ILikeBeer
Most importantly, how does DeGale rate this kid's appearance? That's what fights fans care about.

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 05:39
by danamba7
Degale clear UD if he doesn't take too many rest rounds.

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 05:45
by GlobalBox
danamba7 wrote:Degale clear UD if he doesn't take too many rest rounds.
Thats the whole key I think as well, Chunky will have his customary 3 rounds off plus his 2 light rounds and make it very hard for himself away from home in Vegas with a Mayweather fighter, he really does not want to leave this close

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 06:00
by bbjc
Fancy jack in this fight. Was impressed with him against groves. Pretty relentless just kept on coming all night. Degale likes his rests dont think jack will give him many

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 06:11
by Counter-puncher
bbjc wrote:Fancy jack in this fight. Was impressed with him against groves. Pretty relentless just kept on coming all night. Degale likes his rests dont think jack will give him many
that was my first thought

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 07:00
by Boxerbeetle
I've never been impressed with Jack, DeGale should win this relatively comfortably if he doesn't switch off as usual.

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 07:01
by Lenny
Degale is a loss waiting to happen with his breaks and Jack could be all wrong for him with his workrate.

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 07:57
by johnswan1
Lenny wrote:Degale is a loss waiting to happen with his breaks and Jack could be all wrong for him with his workrate.
I agree completely.

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 08:08
by Andrew
Boxerbeetle wrote:I've never been impressed with Jack, DeGale should win this relatively comfortably if he doesn't switch off as usual.
Neither have I but he knows how to win being the underdog. Don't forget everyone thought Groves was going to smash him too.

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 08:18
by ste1983
Degale to come through some hairy moments and win on points

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 08:19
by Stuarty
Lenny wrote:Degale is a loss waiting to happen with his breaks and Jack could be all wrong for him with his workrate.
He is a loss waiting to happen but I think it'll take someone better than Jack to do it. He's good at what he does but he's nothing special. DeGale will make things harder than they need to be but he should still get the win. I rate Dirrell as a far better fighter than Jack and DeGale managed the win there although he made hard work of it!

Jack has a few good wins as well though. Anthony Dirrell and Groves were close but solid wins. Maybe he's better than he looks?

If DeGale wins and looks good then maybe a fight against the Kovalev v Ward fight would be an option at LHW? Then we'd probably see that loss lol.

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 09:29
by nitro5912
Degale is going to need to win wide to get the decision in Vegas against a may weather promoted fighter. The decision will be tight if chunky does his customary snooze rounds.

I still think degake can win but as jack showed against groves. It won't be easy pickings

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 09:34
by Cyclops
Stuarty30 wrote:
Lenny wrote:Degale is a loss waiting to happen with his breaks and Jack could be all wrong for him with his workrate.
He is a loss waiting to happen but I think it'll take someone better than Jack to do it. He's good at what he does but he's nothing special. DeGale will make things harder than they need to be but he should still get the win. I rate Dirrell as a far better fighter than Jack and DeGale managed the win there although he made hard work of it!

Jack has a few good wins as well though. Anthony Dirrell and Groves were close but solid wins. Maybe he's better than he looks?

If DeGale wins and looks good then maybe a fight against the Kovalev v Ward fight would be an option at LHW? Then we'd probably see that loss lol.
He's got a loss already. So what? A proper fight IS a loss waiting to happen for either guy. If he loses I can't see it being wide and there's nothing wrong with his chin so he's not getting KO'd (not by Jack anyway). It baffles me how UK promoters have pissed Degale away when the guy has not ducked anybody and is probably the best fighter in a division that is historically quite British dominated. Eddie Hearn can hard sell Kell Brook, who is at least an awkward a personality as James and has avoided more significant fights than he has fought, but has never put his weight behind James who's travelled and fought juiced fighters in their backyards, come away with wins, could be unified champion soon... I know James had made money with Haymon but he's earned it.

Even if he loses there's still big fights for James: rematch with Jack, rematch with Groves, GGG. I'm sure Stevenson at LHW could be made.

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 09:47
by Taansend
Where is this fight happening?

I might go if there's a chance of me bumping into DeGales sister :OhYes:

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 09:49
by Taansend
clopixolacuphase wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Lenny wrote:Degale is a loss waiting to happen with his breaks and Jack could be all wrong for him with his workrate.
He is a loss waiting to happen but I think it'll take someone better than Jack to do it. He's good at what he does but he's nothing special. DeGale will make things harder than they need to be but he should still get the win. I rate Dirrell as a far better fighter than Jack and DeGale managed the win there although he made hard work of it!

Jack has a few good wins as well though. Anthony Dirrell and Groves were close but solid wins. Maybe he's better than he looks?

If DeGale wins and looks good then maybe a fight against the Kovalev v Ward fight would be an option at LHW? Then we'd probably see that loss lol.
He's got a loss already. So what? A proper fight IS a loss waiting to happen for either guy. If he loses I can't see it being wide and there's nothing wrong with his chin so he's not getting KO'd (not by Jack anyway). It baffles me how UK promoters have pissed Degale away when the guy has not ducked anybody and is probably the best fighter in a division that is historically quite British dominated. Eddie Hearn can hard sell Kell Brook, who is at least an awkward a personality as James and has avoided more significant fights than he has fought, but has never put his weight behind James who's travelled and fought juiced fighters in their backyards, come away with wins, could be unified champion soon... I know James had made money with Haymon but he's earned it.

Even if he loses there's still big fights for James: rematch with Jack, rematch with Groves, GGG. I'm sure Stevenson at LHW could be made.
Didn't Hearn try to get the Degale thing going but James then signed with the US PBC thing?

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 09:52
by Stuarty
clopixolacuphase wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Lenny wrote:Degale is a loss waiting to happen with his breaks and Jack could be all wrong for him with his workrate.
He is a loss waiting to happen but I think it'll take someone better than Jack to do it. He's good at what he does but he's nothing special. DeGale will make things harder than they need to be but he should still get the win. I rate Dirrell as a far better fighter than Jack and DeGale managed the win there although he made hard work of it!

Jack has a few good wins as well though. Anthony Dirrell and Groves were close but solid wins. Maybe he's better than he looks?

If DeGale wins and looks good then maybe a fight against the Kovalev v Ward fight would be an option at LHW? Then we'd probably see that loss lol.
He's got a loss already. So what? A proper fight IS a loss waiting to happen for either guy. If he loses I can't see it being wide and there's nothing wrong with his chin so he's not getting KO'd (not by Jack anyway). It baffles me how UK promoters have pissed Degale away when the guy has not ducked anybody and is probably the best fighter in a division that is historically quite British dominated. Eddie Hearn can hard sell Kell Brook, who is at least an awkward a personality as James and has avoided more significant fights than he has fought, but has never put his weight behind James who's travelled and fought juiced fighters in their backyards, come away with wins, could be unified champion soon... I know James had made money with Haymon but he's earned it.

Even if he loses there's still big fights for James: rematch with Jack, rematch with Groves, GGG. I'm sure Stevenson at LHW could be made.
The comment of him being a loss waiting to happen was because of the way he fights. He takes full rounds off and invites fighters on to the ropes to open up on him. As a fan of DeGale it's frustrating to watch at times because he has bags of talent and we're forever being told how fit he is...

I'm not sure what's happened with his promotional situation? It sounded like him and Hearn had a bit of a fall out a while ago and they both had a little snipe or two at one another.

I think he'll beat Jack then he'll have some good options open to him. If he stays at SMW then another unification with Ramirez would be interesting or GG would no doubt be a good earner. Kovalev/Ward or as you mentioned Stevenson are good fights for him to get his teeth in to at LHW.

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 09:54
by Stuarty
Taansend wrote:
clopixolacuphase wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
He is a loss waiting to happen but I think it'll take someone better than Jack to do it. He's good at what he does but he's nothing special. DeGale will make things harder than they need to be but he should still get the win. I rate Dirrell as a far better fighter than Jack and DeGale managed the win there although he made hard work of it!

Jack has a few good wins as well though. Anthony Dirrell and Groves were close but solid wins. Maybe he's better than he looks?

If DeGale wins and looks good then maybe a fight against the Kovalev v Ward fight would be an option at LHW? Then we'd probably see that loss lol.
He's got a loss already. So what? A proper fight IS a loss waiting to happen for either guy. If he loses I can't see it being wide and there's nothing wrong with his chin so he's not getting KO'd (not by Jack anyway). It baffles me how UK promoters have pissed Degale away when the guy has not ducked anybody and is probably the best fighter in a division that is historically quite British dominated. Eddie Hearn can hard sell Kell Brook, who is at least an awkward a personality as James and has avoided more significant fights than he has fought, but has never put his weight behind James who's travelled and fought juiced fighters in their backyards, come away with wins, could be unified champion soon... I know James had made money with Haymon but he's earned it.

Even if he loses there's still big fights for James: rematch with Jack, rematch with Groves, GGG. I'm sure Stevenson at LHW could be made.
Didn't Hearn try to get the Degale thing going but James then signed with the US PBC thing?
I think Hearn was/still is his promoter but Haymon was more a manager wasn't he?

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 09:57
by keithmoonhangover
I'm really pleased that Chunky is getting big fights and more importantly, big money since going with Haymon. Well done that man. :TU:

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 10:09
by keithmoonhangover
Stuarty30 wrote:I think Hearn was/still is his promoter but Haymon was more a manager wasn't he?
He mocked Hearn a little while back. I think they are divorced now.

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 10:43
by Stuarty
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:I think Hearn was/still is his promoter but Haymon was more a manager wasn't he?
He mocked Hearn a little while back. I think they are divorced now.
I hope Hearn never comes on here! He'd be divorcing the fornicate outta everyone!

Re: James DeGale (IBF) vs. Badou Jack (WBC) - January 14th 2017

Posted: 26 Oct 2016, 10:46
by Cyclops
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:I think Hearn was/still is his promoter but Haymon was more a manager wasn't he?
He mocked Hearn a little while back. I think they are divorced now.
I would imagine he thinks that Hearn could have made the Carl Froch fight for him if he really wanted to, and probably promised it too. Hearn is the sort of promoter that would have preferred Groves 3 to Degale and I'm sure he figured he wasn't high up on the priority list so looked elsewhere. Making a ton of money in the process so fair play to the lad.