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British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 21:00
by Horse
1. (1.) Tyson Fury
2. (2.) Carl Frampton
3. (3.) James DeGale
4. (4.) Kell Brook
5. (5.) Amir Khan
6. (6.) Lee Selby
7. (7.) Jamie McDonnell
8. (8.) George Groves
9. (9.) Tony Bellew
10. (10.) Billy Joe Saunders

11. (11.) Terry Flanagan
12. (12.) Scott Quigg
13. (13.) Ricky Burns
14. (14.) Anthony Crolla
15. (23.) Nathan Cleverly
16. (15.) Callum Smith
17. (16.) Lee Haskins
18. (17.) Martin Murray
19. (25.) Luke Campbell
20. (18.) Chris Eubank Jr.

21. (19.) Anthony Joshua
22. (20.) Andy Lee (Irish)
23. (21.) Stuart Hall
24. (RE.) Sam Eggington
25. (RE.) Liam Walsh
26. (NE.) Ryan Burnett
27. (24.) Josh Warrington
28. (26.) Tyrone Nurse
29. (27.) Bradley Skeete
30. (28.) Liam Williams

Out - (22.) Ovill McKenzie (Retired)
Out - (29.) David Haye
Out - (30.) Gavin McDonnell

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 21:00
by Horse
Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 22:17
by mullenman
Really like Khan fights but he has not won a decent fight in years...

Frampton number one for me...

Degale could pass him if he beats jack

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 02:17
by garethhop
How can Eggington be above Skeete given what the gulf in class between them which was shown earlier in the year?

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 02:46
by Andrew
Fury to be gone on the next one.

Warrington should be above Burnett and Eggington. They are domestic level and Josh is at least Euro level. Liam Walsh should be above them as well.

I'd also say Campbell should be in the place below Andy Lee.

Think I mentioned last time I think Stephen Smith should be squeezed in at the bottom end. He is at least a Euro level fighter.

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 02:50
by forcefraser
Khan should be lower.

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 03:15
by Tangerine
Burnett and Eggington should be below Skeete and possibly even Nurse.Cleverly seems to moved up very high aswell but I think I know why youve put him there.

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 05:05
by BigDoofus
64 months since Khan won a world title fight.
18 months since Khan won a fight.

Fury hasn't got a boxing licence.

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 05:36
by DannyMCR
Khan :o

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 05:47
by BitPlayer

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 05:47
by Killer Blow
Fury at number one is a joke. He never even defended his belts. Both Frampton and Degale should be above him.

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 06:04
by Boxerbeetle

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 06:27
by BigDoofus

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 07:49
by Horse
mullenman wrote:Really like Khan fights but he has not won a decent fight in years...

Frampton number one for me...

Degale could pass him if he beats jack
If those below Khan were more active then he would have fallen quite a few places by now.

If Frampton wins the rematch with Santa Cruz then he will most likely move to No. 1.

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 08:00
by nitro5912
Fury hasn't fought in a year and is now banned
Khan has fought once in 2016

How can they be so high?

How is Murray so high given he got battered by groves.

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 08:15
by Horse
garethhop wrote:How can Eggington be above Skeete given what the gulf in class between them which was shown earlier in the year?
Because Skeete has done very little since then and Eggington has beaten Gavin.

I also didn't rate Skeete's performance against Eggington as highly as most people did.

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 08:20
by cocobongo
Normally don't grumble too much at these lists but few things on this one I don't agree with

I know Clev "beat" Brahmer but that performance doesn't warrant jumping 8 places I had him 1 down when Brahmer pulled out

Eggington should not be above Bradley Skeete I know Horse will compare their two outings vs Gavin as the marker but Skeete absolutely stood Eggington on his head a few months ago

Fury will need to drop should either or both Degale beat Jack and Frampton beat LSC again

I'm a big Khan fan but he's prob to high given his activity

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 08:57
by Horse
Naandrew wrote:Fury to be gone on the next one.
He won't be removed next month.
Naandrew wrote:Warrington should be above Burnett and Eggington. They are domestic level and Josh is at least Euro level. Liam Walsh should be above them as well.
The bottom 10 on this list is quite chaotic. A fighter is going to get overtaken pretty quickly if they don't stay active against decent opposition, as there is a lot of competition for a place on the list.

Warrington's and Walsh's form isn't good enough to set them apart from the other fighters at the bottom of the rankings.
Naandrew wrote:I'd also say Campbell should be in the place below Andy Lee.
Lee would be quite a few places higher if he had fought anyone half decent since he lost to Saunders.

Until Lee fights again he is going to keep getting overtaken by fighters that he was a level or two above before he stopped fighting.
Naandrew wrote:Think I mentioned last time I think Stephen Smith should be squeezed in at the bottom end. He is at least a Euro level fighter.
Stephen Smith goes too long between fighting decent opponents.

Smith is good enough for a lower place, but avoiding the domestic scene and mostly fighting moderately low level foreigners is not a good way to earn and keep and place on this list.

Obviously if he beats Sosa this month then he will re-enter the rankings.

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 09:08
by Horse
forcefraser wrote:Khan should be lower.
McDonnell might overtake him this month.

Unfortunately most of the top 10 are either fighting weak opposition or no one at all, so the top 10 remains stagnant.

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 10:27
by keirw
I don't mind fury staying at number one, the top spot is there for the taking and its up to guys like Frampton, Degale, Brook etc to take it, not the other way around.

Good to see Eggington and Walsh re enter, but I do wonder why Haye was above them in the first place given the standard of his last 2 opponents.

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 11:35
by Horse
LancashireLoyal wrote:Burnett and Eggington should be below Skeete and possibly even Nurse.
Skeete is probably going to be dropping out of the rankings soon. He's a good fighter, but his last opponent was poor and his next opponent is poor.

If you're in the bottom 10 and you bottom-feed then you're not going to last long. He might be better than them, but he has to keep proving it.
LancashireLoyal wrote:Cleverly seems to moved up very high aswell but I think I know why youve put him there.
Cleverly did move up a lot, but he has a relatively strong overall record and Braehmer was a consensus top 10 world ranked fighter.

I thought Cleverly deserved to be above C. Smith who hasn't stepped up to world level yet and above Haskins who came close to losing his title to Hall recently.

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 11:37
by Horse
BigDoofus wrote:64 months since Khan won a world title fight.
18 months since Khan won a fight.

Fury hasn't got a boxing licence.
If other fighters were doing more then they would be dropping.

Our top fighters are mostly mucking about at the moment though.

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 11:40
by jamesmcdonnell
Horse wrote:
forcefraser wrote:Khan should be lower.
McDonnell might overtake him this month.

Unfortunately most of the top 10 are either fighting weak opposition or no one at all, so the top 10 remains stagnant.
I'm always #1. :TU:

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 11:43
by Horse
jamesmcdonnell wrote:I'm always #1. :TU:
Maybe when you aren't making towel jokes.

Re: British Top 30 P4P November 2016

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 11:43
by jamesmcdonnell
Horse wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:I'm always #1. :TU:
Maybe when you aren't making towel jokes.
A mere blip. Not long enough to slide.