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was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 15:54
by man
maybe i just too many expectations, but
goodness, that was outright ... nothing.
cannot even complain about anything,
there was just nothing interesting going
on.

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 15:56
by jockpunk
For as long as I have been following the sport (about 15 years) it was.

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 16:12
by Boxing Prospect
It's what you make of it. If you just follow stuff in the US, yeah it's been a bit shit, LSC Vs Frampton was great and lived up to expectation whilst other bouts, like Crawford Vs Postol, failed to live up to expectation. Sadly we're going to be talking about what we didn't get, and how the networks have cut the funding and stuff, and the mismatches involving Golovkin and Canelo.

In the UK things haven't been frustrating with Quigg Vs Frampton being crap, and Fury being...well Fury, but we've had some great stuff like Linares Vs Crolla, having Golovkin on the British shores and the emergence of Josh Taylor and Andre Selby. Also, as much of a pillock as I think he is, Tony Bellew has done what I didn't expect he ever would

If you mainly follow the Heavyweight scene the picture has been horribly bleak, and it's possibly the worst year in living memory for the division with Wilder/Povetkin being called off and the Wilder injuring himself in a stay busy against Arreola, Fury having his issues, Klitschko not fighting, no combination of Ortiz/Parker/Pulev/Povetkin/Wilder/Fury/Klitschko/Joshua facing off.

It's also been crap if you concetrate on 140-160lbs with little of real intrigue actually happening.

If you follow the lower weights however we've had-
The emergence of Jezreel Corrales, Sosa beating Fortuna, Salido Vs Vargas, Lomachenko showing his abilities at a new weight, Watanabe Vs Ito, Barros Vs Hosono, Frampton Vs LSC, Guzman Vs Wake, the emergence of Maruta, Yamanaka Vs Moreno II, Tapales Vs Pungluang, the developments at 115 (Kono Vs Concepcion was great, Gonzalez Vs Cuadras was amazing, the emergence of Ancajas, the upcoming Yafai Vs Concepcion bout, Conlan Vs Nelson and Estrada looking to plant his name in the division), the wide spread changes at 112 (with the emergence of Zoda, Higa, Waseem, the move up for Nietes), Taconing finally getting his shot at 108, Tanaka Vs Fuentes finally being signed, the rise of Ken Shiro, Taniguchi Vs Alimento (and Alimento Vs Chanachai), Tecuapetla Vs Yaegashi, Fahlan Jr Vs Melindo coming up, At 105 we've had Knockout Vs Rojas and Wanheng Vs Juarez putting 4 of the best in the ring, and Rojas Vs Budler. Fukuhawa Vs Hanai coming up later this week too!

The development of services like boxingraise, Asign boxing and the legal (and ease) of streaming over the deportes app,

Yeah the year has had some disappointments, some big ones, but theres been plenty happening even if it's not been on US TV.

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 01 Nov 2016, 16:40
by boxing_rocks
We still have Kovalev vs Ward, Loma vs Walters, Lebedev vs Gassiev to watch, so can't say yet.

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 02 Nov 2016, 07:00
by Enlightened-One
jockpunk wrote:was this the most boring year in boxing history?
1943 & 1944 were far worse than 2016. :lol:

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 02 Nov 2016, 07:02
by littlepug
Enlightened-One wrote:
jockpunk wrote:was this the most boring year in boxing history?
1943 & 1944 were far worse than 2016. :lol:
bugger ,beat me to it :TU:

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 02 Nov 2016, 15:14
by Freedom2013
We've been through some of the worst months especially October, but November and December are looking very, very good.

I can hardly wait for Kovalev-Ward.

We also have Lomachenko-Walters, Charlo-Williams, Murray-Chudinov, Gvozdyk-Chilemba, Barrera-Shabranskyy, Lebedev-Gassiev, Povetkin-Stiverne, Huck-Kucher, Lipinets-Zappavigna, Smith-Hopkins, and others.

Although 2016 has been a boring year so far, but it will end with LOTS of excitement.

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 02 Nov 2016, 15:25
by gilgamesh
jockpunk wrote:For as long as I have been following the sport (about 15 years) it was.
I've been following the sport pretty much the same amount of time, and I'm with ya. I got into the sport in late 2001, and this is by far the worst year of Boxing I've ever been witness to.

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 14:18
by ValMar
boxing_rocks wrote:We still have Kovalev vs Ward, Loma vs Walters, Lebedev vs Gassiev to watch, so can't say yet.
This ! :TU:

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 14:49
by JohnP2
jockpunk wrote:For as long as I have been following the sport (about 15 years) it was.
I've been following it over 40 years and it's not even close to the worst yet. Do I have you this year was essentially setting the table. Many things got worked out for better or worse and I think there's a clear picture of what's to come in 2017. I started to get a little active again in the sport these past 18 months--really just working with different managers and promoters (introducing people to one another) we had a 5+ cards roll through (including Canelo, Spence Jr, etc) and I'm geeked about 2017.

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 14:52
by JohnP2
What did you consider one of the best years..just curious. It's obviously objective in nature just curious as we have such extreme differening opinions.

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 16:05
by Tony1244
Yes.

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 03 Nov 2016, 16:08
by T w_savage
Boxing Prospect wrote:It's what you make of it. If you just follow stuff in the US, yeah it's been a bit poo, LSC Vs Frampton was great and lived up to expectation whilst other bouts, like Crawford Vs Postol, failed to live up to expectation. Sadly we're going to be talking about what we didn't get, and how the networks have cut the funding and stuff, and the mismatches involving Golovkin and Canelo.

In the UK things haven't been frustrating with Quigg Vs Frampton being crap, and Fury being...well Fury, but we've had some great stuff like Linares Vs Crolla, having Golovkin on the British shores and the emergence of Josh Taylor and Andre Selby. Also, as much of a pillock as I think he is, Tony Bellew has done what I didn't expect he ever would

If you mainly follow the Heavyweight scene the picture has been horribly bleak, and it's possibly the worst year in living memory for the division with Wilder/Povetkin being called off and the Wilder injuring himself in a stay busy against Arreola, Fury having his issues, Klitschko not fighting, no combination of Ortiz/Parker/Pulev/Povetkin/Wilder/Fury/Klitschko/Joshua facing off.

It's also been crap if you concetrate on 140-160lbs with little of real intrigue actually happening.

If you follow the lower weights however we've had-
The emergence of Jezreel Corrales, Sosa beating Fortuna, Salido Vs Vargas, Lomachenko showing his abilities at a new weight, Watanabe Vs Ito, Barros Vs Hosono, Frampton Vs LSC, Guzman Vs Wake, the emergence of Maruta, Yamanaka Vs Moreno II, Tapales Vs Pungluang, the developments at 115 (Kono Vs Concepcion was great, Gonzalez Vs Cuadras was amazing, the emergence of Ancajas, the upcoming Yafai Vs Concepcion bout, Conlan Vs Nelson and Estrada looking to plant his name in the division), the wide spread changes at 112 (with the emergence of Zoda, Higa, Waseem, the move up for Nietes), Taconing finally getting his shot at 108, Tanaka Vs Fuentes finally being signed, the rise of Ken Shiro, Taniguchi Vs Alimento (and Alimento Vs Chanachai), Tecuapetla Vs Yaegashi, Fahlan Jr Vs Melindo coming up, At 105 we've had Knockout Vs Rojas and Wanheng Vs Juarez putting 4 of the best in the ring, and Rojas Vs Budler. Fukuhawa Vs Hanai coming up later this week too!

The development of services like boxingraise, Asign boxing and the legal (and ease) of streaming over the deportes app,

Yeah the year has had some disappointments, some big ones, but theres been plenty happening even if it's not been on US TV.
:TU:

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 04 Nov 2016, 03:58
by Jip
like the wlad and mayweather years were so much better. yes, 2016 was super boring, but a lot of years were similar as boring. serguy pascal was good, thurman porter was all action, ggg tko brook was good. their were some good ones in 2016..aint all bad

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 04 Nov 2016, 05:18
by davie
Thurman vs Porter was one of the best match ups this year and subsequently, one of the best fights I've seen in recent years,

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 04 Nov 2016, 05:46
by Tanzio
davie wrote:Thurman vs Porter was one of the best match ups this year and subsequently, one of the best fights I've seen in recent years,
Indeed.

Postol v Crawford was not as competitive but it was a brilliant boxing exhibition.

Frampton v LSC was a great fight. I look forward to the rematch.

Cuadras v Chocolatito was another great fight.

Vargas v Pac may be a sleeper, which reminds me of Ramming Speed v Pac 3.

I don't think that this is the worst year.

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 04 Nov 2016, 09:45
by man
JohnP2 wrote:What did you consider one of the best years..just curious. It's obviously objective in nature just curious as we have such extreme differening opinions.
good point! have to dig it up, but i
guess i find something well during
the rise of manny, at the end of the
nineties, during the early eighties
with the fab four and early seventies
mainly due to the heavies.

but i clearly have to dig which exact
year(s) ...

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 09 Feb 2017, 17:13
by JohnP2
Interesting as I have the opposite view. The "rise of manny' was when I felt boxing was at it's lowest point here in the US. Remember though, I come from the Ali v Frazier/Shavers/Foreman/Spinks era on through the murderers row era so it was crackin', I'll go as far as saying after Pretty Boy fought Sugar Shane the sport seemed to decline in popularity some. Who knows. Again, just interesting to read about differing views as what you found most boring I found most exciting and vice-versa. Peace

p.s. With that that said, it's on in '17...already. :TU:

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 09 Feb 2017, 17:49
by gilgamesh
jockpunk wrote:For as long as I have been following the sport (about 15 years) it was.
We've been following the sport for about the same amount of time and I agree.

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 10 Feb 2017, 09:34
by Enlightened-One
Was 2016 really so bad?

• Gonzalez-Cuadras
• Salido-Vargas
• Frampton-Santa Cruz
• Thurman-Porter
• Yamanaka-Moreno II
• Soto Karass-Kamegai
• Whyte-Chisora
• Easter-Commey
• Linares-Crolla
• Conlan-Nelson
• Gassiev-Lebedev
• Hasegawa-Ruiz
• Bellew-Ilunga
• Ward-Kovalev
• Burton-Buglioni
• Williams-Rodriguez
• Golovkin-Brook
• Canelo-Khan
• Crolla-Barroso
• Doran-Keeler
• And the list goes on...

Re: was this the most boring year in boxing history?

Posted: 10 Feb 2017, 10:11
by amwsnw
Maybe Im easily pleased but I thought it was ok.