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Damir Belyo is 22-0 with 18 KOs.

Even by todays standards that is a terrible fight. Beljos best win was over a 38-year-old Alejandro Berrio who was years out of his prime and 3 weight classes above his best weight and Beljo still got outboxed until Berrio retired with an injury.

This is worse than Wilder/Molina.

poo

Masternak and Hunter were previously mooted, and I would've rather seen them.

#1 CW in the world versus an anonymous bum-crusher. Garbage.

Why would HBO bother with this? Will it be on the the undercard of that Hopkins fight?

jujigatame wrote:#1 CW in the world versus an anonymous bum-crusher. Garbage.

Why would HBO bother with this? Will it be on the the undercard of that Hopkins fight?

No worse than Ward vs. Brand.

Freedom2013 wrote:

jujigatame wrote:#1 CW in the world versus an anonymous bum-crusher. Garbage.

Why would HBO bother with this? Will it be on the the undercard of that Hopkins fight?

No worse than Ward vs. Brand.

Talk about damning with faint praise.

Bloody hell why is the best cruiser by far fighting this guy?

Freedom2013 wrote:

jujigatame wrote:#1 CW in the world versus an anonymous bum-crusher. Garbage.

Why would HBO bother with this? Will it be on the the undercard of that Hopkins fight?

No worse than Ward vs. Brand.

Jesus Christ; can you not comment on the shittiness of a matchup without saying something along the lines of "Its no worse than such and such".

We all know you have an eastern European fetish but your argument is akin to "what's worse; dogshit or cat shit?" Who cares?! They're both shit! Just because Ward-Brand was crap; that doesn't justify Usyk vs some absolute can either.

lefty wrote:Jesus Christ; can you not comment on the shittiness of a matchup without saying something along the lines of "Its no worse than such and such".

We all know you have an eastern European fetish but your argument is akin to "what's worse; dogshit or cat poo?" Who cares?! They're both poo! Just because Ward-Brand was crap; that doesn't justify Usyk vs some absolute can either.

Just pointing out the double standard of people with an American fetish who are quick to disparage Usyk but have nothing but praise for Ward.

Freedom2013 wrote:

jujigatame wrote:#1 CW in the world versus an anonymous bum-crusher. Garbage.

Why would HBO bother with this? Will it be on the the undercard of that Hopkins fight?

No worse than Ward vs. Brand.

It's worse. At the very least Brand had an extremely close fight with Badou Jack and in my opinion Brand won it. Nothing on Beljos record comes even remotely close to that.

And no, I'm not American. ;)

hbg wrote:It's worse. At the very least Brand had an extremely close fight with Badou Jack and in my opinion Brand won it. Nothing on Beljos record comes even remotely close to that.

And no, I'm not American. ;)

Brand is also much smaller than Ward. And who did Sullivan Barrera ever beat?

Hunter and Masternak didn't want the fight with Usyk, while Ward had many options.

But okay. Ward is above criticism because he's an American.

Freedom2013 wrote:

hbg wrote:It's worse. At the very least Brand had an extremely close fight with Badou Jack and in my opinion Brand won it. Nothing on Beljos record comes even remotely close to that.

And no, I'm not American. ;)

Brand is also much smaller than Ward. And who did Sullivan Barrera ever beat?

Hunter and Masternak didn't want the fight with Usyk, while Ward had many options.

But okay. Ward is above criticism because he's an American.

To be fair, Ward doesn't have good options as an A side, as he can't generate money, so they can't pay good opponents.

P.S. Ward's fight wasn't a title defense.

Beljo is not a bad choice for a showcase fight if you look at the current top 15 WBO Rankings.

#1 Gevor fought like 3 weeks ago, so probably not available.
#2 Briedis is going the WBC route.
#3 Arslan is 46 years old and probably would of wanted a lot of money.

#4 Beljo

So he's probably fighting the highest ranked available fighter.

In the grand scheme of things I'm not too bothered with this, as Usyk just fought arguably the #1 guy in the division away from home (Ward wasn't coming off that type of win when he faced Brand), but taken on its own it's definitely a poo opponent for such a good fighter.

Bello is the kind of guy Usyk was beating up on before the Glowacki fight.

crusader wrote:In the grand scheme of things I'm not too bothered with this, as Usyk just fought arguably the #1 guy in the division away from home (Ward wasn't coming off that type of win when he faced Brand), but taken on its own it's definitely a poo opponent for such a good fighter.

How dare you say that. The number one outside of Usyk is the mighty Lebedev

Freedom2013 wrote:

lefty wrote:Jesus Christ; can you not comment on the shittiness of a matchup without saying something along the lines of "Its no worse than such and such".

We all know you have an eastern European fetish but your argument is akin to "what's worse; dogshit or cat poo?" Who cares?! They're both poo! Just because Ward-Brand was crap; that doesn't justify Usyk vs some absolute can either.

Just pointing out the double standard of people with an American fetish who are quick to disparage Usyk but have nothing but praise for Ward.

Except you were responding to me, and I never remotely praised any of Ward's recent opponents, not even Barrera who some people thought was a good opponent for some reason.

klitoris wrote:Beljo is not a bad choice for a showcase fight if you look at the current top 15 WBO Rankings.

#1 Gevor fought like 3 weeks ago, so probably not available.
#2 Briedis is going the WBC route.
#3 Arslan is 46 years old and probably would of wanted a lot of money.

#4 Beljo

So he's probably fighting the highest ranked available fighter.

The problem is that the rankings are garbage.

jujigatame wrote:

klitoris wrote:Beljo is not a bad choice for a showcase fight if you look at the current top 15 WBO Rankings.

#1 Gevor fought like 3 weeks ago, so probably not available.
#2 Briedis is going the WBC route.
#3 Arslan is 46 years old and probably would of wanted a lot of money.

#4 Beljo

So he's probably fighting the highest ranked available fighter.

The problem is that the rankings are garbage.

Keep in mind Usyk is fighting only his 11th fight. This isn't Danny Garcia fighting a "Salka" or a "Vargas" after 30 fights lol

He's not just any 10-fight pro. He's a gold medalist with something like 400 amateur fights. And he turns 30 in a couple months.

jujigatame wrote:He's not just any 10-fight pro. He's a gold medalist with something like 400 amateur fights. And he turns 30 in a couple months.

Exactly. He should look at his former teammate Loma.

Damir Beljo is exactly.

jujigatame wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:

lefty wrote:Jesus Christ; can you not comment on the shittiness of a matchup without saying something along the lines of "Its no worse than such and such".

We all know you have an eastern European fetish but your argument is akin to "what's worse; dogshit or cat poo?" Who cares?! They're both poo! Just because Ward-Brand was crap; that doesn't justify Usyk vs some absolute can either.

Just pointing out the double standard of people with an American fetish who are quick to disparage Usyk but have nothing but praise for Ward.

Except you were responding to me, and I never remotely praised any of Ward's recent opponents, not even Barrera who some people thought was a good opponent for some reason.

Its fine Ward will either prove to people that he is still the truth or you guys will be right with being critical of him.

Has this fight been made official?

Even though, it's a voluntary, so I won't knock Usyk for this.

world ranked wrote: Its fine Ward will either prove to people that he is still the truth or you guys will be right with being critical of him.

I think Ward is an excellent fighter, he's just fought dogshit opposition for years now so it's difficult to ascertain exactly how excellent he is.

jujigatame wrote:

world ranked wrote: Its fine Ward will either prove to people that he is still the truth or you guys will be right with being critical of him.

I think Ward is an excellent fighter, he's just fought dogshit opposition for years now so it's difficult to ascertain exactly how excellent he is.

The great thing about this fight it will clearly show where Ward and Kovalev are.