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Evander Holyfield is a 5 time heavyweight champion. Pacquiao just became a 3 or 4 time welterweight champion depending on who you ask. Who has lost/vacated/stripped of a title the most times and won it back in the same weight division? Who has done it the most at welterweight?

Manuel medina is a 5 time featherweight champ and sugar ray Robinson is a 5 time middleweight champ

Always found this a funny one. 5 time champion sounds good but means you lost it 4 times lol

darkstar81 wrote:Always found this a funny one. 5 time champion sounds good but means you lost it 4 times lol

Yes but they were resilient enough to come back successfully after defeat, my kinda fighter !

Yes very commendable.. I'm not having a dig!

darkstar81 wrote:Yes very commendable.. I'm not having a dig!

I know you weren't

littlepug wrote:

darkstar81 wrote:Always found this a funny one. 5 time champion sounds good but means you lost it 4 times lol

Yes but they were resilient enough to come back successfully after defeat, my kinda fighter !

Commendable indeed but still not as impressive as just winning.
Just winning means you are resiliant enough to come back from winning. Charlie Sheen would approve.

SRR acheivements at WW far exceed those at ME.
He desevres credit for the comebacks at MW but you can't say that is better than his WW record of mopping the floor with eeveryone who got in his way

davie wrote:

littlepug wrote:

darkstar81 wrote:Always found this a funny one. 5 time champion sounds good but means you lost it 4 times lol

Yes but they were resilient enough to come back successfully after defeat, my kinda fighter !

Commendable indeed but still not as impressive as just winning.
Just winning means you are resiliant enough to come back from winning. Charlie Sheen would approve.

SRR acheivements at WW far exceed those at ME.
He desevres credit for the comebacks at MW but you can't say that is better than his WW record of mopping the floor with eeveryone who got in his way

Yeah I know, I just get a kick outta those boys that just keep coming back from the dead so to speak

Carl Froch was four times Super-Middleweight champion (2x WBC, IBF and unified the WBA title when he held the IBF title)

How about Floyd?

Three time welterweight champion without ever losing.
If he came back and won again, he'd be a 4 time champion without losing the belts.

For the sake of the sport, I hope his career get its due respect.

halfamill wrote:Evander Holyfield is a 5 time heavyweight champion. Pacquiao just became a 3 or 4 time welterweight champion depending on who you ask. Who has lost/vacated/stripped of a title the most times and won it back in the same weight division? Who has done it the most at welterweight?

I must have missed Holyfield equalling Sugar Ray Robinson record of winning the same weight[middleweight] World Title on 5 different occasion's I remember Evander as the 4 time Heavyweight Champion NOT 5 time.

Carlos De Leon won the WBC Cruiserweight Title 4 time's

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:How about Floyd?

Three time welterweight champion without ever losing.
If he came back and won again, he'd be a 4 time champion without losing the belts.

For the sake of the sport, I hope his career get its due respect.

He will and he wont.
Like many he will have haters that pick through every criticism they can level at him, he'll have his handful of fans that praise every punch he threw and defend every angle.

Then you'll have a small number who can look at his career subjectively and fairly assess it as the career of a deserving ATG.

He's too decisive a character to be fairly remembered by all