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Crawford SCARED of 147lbs

Posted: 08 Nov 2016, 08:55
by PsychoGamerTwo
Just wanted to bring this up again.

Re: Crawford SCARED of 147lbs

Posted: 08 Nov 2016, 10:33
by Enlightened-One
Terence Crawford has frequently stated that his immediate plans is to unify the 140lbs weight class by adding the WBA & IBF titles to the WBC & WBO belts that he already owns.

Considering the fact that the ‘Hunter’ is an Arum fighter, like Pacquiao, he’ll probably be limited to facing other Top Rank fighters or contractual free agents, as it seems that Bob is reluctant to pay the lofty paydays demanded by Haymon’s men.

So based on what we know… and assuming Crawford only competes twice a year, then he’ll be a 140lb-er (regardless of his 157lb rehydration weight) for the next 18 months.

It is possible that Crawford’s next three opponents could be: Manny Pacquiao (at 140lbs); Ricky Burns (WBA champ); and Eduard Troyanovsky (IBF champ).

Therefore, I feel that Terence Crawford will eventually make the jump to 147lbs, but it’s unlikely to be until the second half of 2018 (at the earliest).

Re: Crawford SCARED of 147lbs

Posted: 08 Nov 2016, 11:23
by davie
He's only had 4 fights at 140lbs and spent 2 years at the weight
He has challenges still in front of him there, if he wants them, who are we to tell him he can't unify a division.
If he steps up to WW there are a lot of big names, which makes it very difficult to get them all in the ring and makes it very hard to get your hands on all the titles, if unifying a weight class is his ambition, let him have it

I could equally state that Garcia, Thurman and Spence are afraid of 154lbs.

Just because they haven't stepped up doesn't make me right

Re: Crawford SCARED of 147lbs

Posted: 08 Nov 2016, 12:00
by Tarkus
He is 140 fighter and should fight there. It is where he is most effective. No reason to move up at all.

Re: Crawford SCARED of 147lbs

Posted: 08 Nov 2016, 12:49
by gilgamesh
Well...this thread is ridiculous

Crawford just got to 140 not too long ago. Give the guy some time. He'll be at Welterweight in due time I guarantee it. Pretty much any guy with his kinda talent that starts as a Lightweight winds up there.

Re: Crawford SCARED of 147lbs

Posted: 08 Nov 2016, 14:48
by Horse
There's not a great deal for him to do at 140 lbs, but he should fight Troyanovsky, Broner & Matthysse (if he comes back) before moving up.

Crawford should only go up to 147 lbs now if he gets a Pacquiao or Mayweather fight.

Re: Crawford SCARED of 147lbs

Posted: 08 Nov 2016, 14:53
by gilgamesh
I really don't even think Broner deserves a crack at Crawford, but I wouldn't mind seeing him get his ass handed to him again I guess. He's a moron so he'll blow all that money he doesn't deserve within 6 months from the fight.

Crawford vs Troyanovsky would be interesting.

Is Rances Barthelemy back to 140 or is he at 135 now? I don't remember. Barthelemy seems to switch weight classes every single fight.

Re: Crawford SCARED of 147lbs

Posted: 08 Nov 2016, 14:59
by klitoris
Haymon puppets are gonna be on Crawford's ass forever. He poses the biggest threat to Haymon because Haymon clearly knows that Terrance has the potential to be the next Floyd.

Re: Crawford SCARED of 147lbs

Posted: 08 Nov 2016, 16:06
by SFW
Crawford may be the best out of all of them, but he was a lightweight at one point while other guys have always cut significant weight to make 147.. That natural size difference could be a factor at some point. I'd just like to see TC get a big name opponent doesn't matter who.

Re: Crawford SCARED of 147lbs

Posted: 08 Nov 2016, 19:09
by caldo2025
It's the same thing that Golden Boy is doing with Canelo and it's the biggest problem in Boxing today and in the past. Top Rank is protecting it's best fighter and not taking any risks that aren't calculated. Because one defeat with a blue chip prospect could cost a promoter anywhere from 10-50 million dollars over the course of a career. When you put it in perspective with money as the determining factor, you can understand where they are coming from. But whether I understand or not, it's horrible for the sport of boxing because the best just refuse to take the risk and fight the best until it's later in their career and it's time for the promoter to cash in his chips on them. It's what Arum is doing with Manny right now. He doesn't care who he puts Manny in with because he knows he's only got a few more paydays coming. Arum even spouted off about a possible Manny/GGG fight a few weeks ago. Manny can't even make 147 and Arum just doesn't care. He's scum.

Re: Crawford SCARED of 147lbs

Posted: 09 Nov 2016, 08:45
by Badhusker
caldo2025 wrote:It's the same thing that Golden Boy is doing with Canelo and it's the biggest problem in Boxing today and in the past. Top Rank is protecting it's best fighter and not taking any risks that aren't calculated. Because one defeat with a blue chip prospect could cost a promoter anywhere from 10-50 million dollars over the course of a career. When you put it in perspective with money as the determining factor, you can understand where they are coming from. But whether I understand or not, it's horrible for the sport of boxing because the best just refuse to take the risk and fight the best until it's later in their career and it's time for the promoter to cash in his chips on them. It's what Arum is doing with Manny right now. He doesn't care who he puts Manny in with because he knows he's only got a few more paydays coming. Arum even spouted off about a possible Manny/GGG fight a few weeks ago. Manny can't even make 147 and Arum just doesn't care. He's scum.

First of all Arum even said he was kidding about GGG. Secondly, he is not protecting anyone, unless you mean going out of in-house fights. He offered Pacquiao the Crawford fight last time, but either Manny or Roach didn't want it. Crawford also said he would go to 147 for Garcia a few months ago.
I do agree to a point though with Canelo. Oscar knows someone like Andrade would be a very tough fight, and will continue to avoid him. They fought Smith, who is less known than Andrade and had the title Andrade had. Canelo had to push like hell to get fights with Trout and Lara because Oscar knew the styles were bad for Canelo.

Crawford fears no one, and will move up in due time. As soon as he gets a couple fights at a weight, stupid fans are screaming for him to move up. :doh:

Re: Crawford SCARED of 147lbs

Posted: 09 Nov 2016, 09:16
by Enlightened-One
Immediately after the Postol bout, Crawford said that he was willing to face Pacquiao, but only at 140lbs. Terence himself has clearly stated that he has no imminent plans to make the jump to welterweight and nor should he be obliged to do this.

Bob Arum offered the fight to Manny and was told that, due to the fact he has to fit his training camp and diet regime around his full-time job as a senator, he was unlikely to make the stipulated 140lbs weight and needed more time for a proper training camp in order to prepare for an opponent of Crawford’s calibre.

So that's the reason why the Pacquiao- Crawford bout wasn't made.

Re: Crawford SCARED of 147lbs

Posted: 09 Nov 2016, 11:55
by T w_savage
This is ridiculous :lol:

Re: Crawford SCARED of 147lbs

Posted: 09 Nov 2016, 21:09
by caldo2025
Badhusker wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:It's the same thing that Golden Boy is doing with Canelo and it's the biggest problem in Boxing today and in the past. Top Rank is protecting it's best fighter and not taking any risks that aren't calculated. Because one defeat with a blue chip prospect could cost a promoter anywhere from 10-50 million dollars over the course of a career. When you put it in perspective with money as the determining factor, you can understand where they are coming from. But whether I understand or not, it's horrible for the sport of boxing because the best just refuse to take the risk and fight the best until it's later in their career and it's time for the promoter to cash in his chips on them. It's what Arum is doing with Manny right now. He doesn't care who he puts Manny in with because he knows he's only got a few more paydays coming. Arum even spouted off about a possible Manny/GGG fight a few weeks ago. Manny can't even make 147 and Arum just doesn't care. He's scum.

First of all Arum even said he was kidding about GGG. Secondly, he is not protecting anyone, unless you mean going out of in-house fights. He offered Pacquiao the Crawford fight last time, but either Manny or Roach didn't want it. Crawford also said he would go to 147 for Garcia a few months ago.
I do agree to a point though with Canelo. Oscar knows someone like Andrade would be a very tough fight, and will continue to avoid him. They fought Smith, who is less known than Andrade and had the title Andrade had. Canelo had to push like hell to get fights with Trout and Lara because Oscar knew the styles were bad for Canelo.

Crawford fears no one, and will move up in due time. As soon as he gets a couple fights at a weight, stupid fans are screaming for him to move up. :doh:
I personally don't think that Arum was kidding. He wanted to throw it out there to see if it would stick until he received negative feedback at the notion and passed it off as a joke. But trust me, Arum would sign that fight tomorrow if he could. Floyd/GGG rumors have been going on for years so it's not so far fetched to imagine GGG/Manny possibility. Arum is looking to cash in one of his old cars here for as much money as he can before it's not fit for the road.