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im talking about fighters who were Top 10 p4p when they fought Mayweather

I think 2. Pacquiao and Marquez. Mosley might've been in some Top 10 P4P lists at the time of his fight with Floyd too, but I don't think so.

Surely Hatton as well?

Nemesis wrote:Surely Hatton as well?

Yeah Hatton might've been there, I don't recall most people ever seeing Hatton as a P4P kinda talent though.

gilgamesh wrote:I think 2. Pacquiao and Marquez. Mosley might've been in some Top 10 P4P lists at the time of his fight with Floyd too, but I don't think so.

Shane was consensus top 5. Hatton, corrales,

Hatton was top 10.
he even remained in after the KO defeat and until Pacquiao retired him

Does Saul Alvarez count?

Nemesis wrote:Does Saul Alvarez count?

He wasn't there yet. I think it was beating Lara that got him in the P4P Top 10 discussion

Nemesis wrote:How Many Top 10 P4P fighters has Mayweather beaten during his career?

im talking about fighters who were Top 10 p4p when they fought Mayweather

According to Ring Magazine:

• Manny Pacquiao (3rd)
• Saul Alvarez (10th)
• Shane Mosley (3rd)
• Juan Manuel Marquez (2nd)
• Ricky Hatton (8th)
• Diego Corrales (5th)

I used an internet archive website to retrieve the pound-for-pound lists from the archived Ring Magazine ratings dated shortly before each of Mayweather's bouts against these men to obtain this info.

There’s no need to guess the answer to this question when the information is easily accessible.

Regardless, I will venture and guess 7 fighters.

No one has beaten more in the last 25 years that's for sure.

Lennox wrote:No one has beaten more in the last 25 years that's for sure.

I'm pretty sure Pacquiao has, between 2x Morales, 2x Barrera, 2x Marquez, Hatton, Cotto, and Bradley; he's probably done it.

Lackeos wrote:

Lennox wrote:No one has beaten more in the last 25 years that's for sure.

I'm pretty sure Pacquiao has, between 2x Morales, 2x Barrera, 2x Marquez, Hatton, Cotto, and Bradley; he's probably done it.

Why don't you list the Ring or ESPN ratings of Pacquiao's top-ten pound-for-pound opponents (at the time they faced him) like I did for Mayweather earlier? I'd be curious to see how Manny compares to Floyd.

And dominated them all.

Hopefully, for the sake of boxing, Floyd Mayweather Jr. the boxer gets his due respect.

Enlightened-One wrote: According to Ring Magazine:

• Manny Pacquiao (3rd)
• Saul Alvarez (10th)
• Shane Mosley (3rd)
• Juan Manuel Marquez (2nd)
• Ricky Hatton (8th)
• Diego Corrales (5th)

I used an internet archive website to retrieve the pound-for-pound lists from the archived Ring Magazine ratings dated shortly before each of Mayweather's bouts against these men to obtain this info.

There’s no need to guess the answer to this question when the information is easily accessible.

The Ring's ratings can be politically skewed and unreliable. Mosley was at least 5 years past his best and was clearly a much diminished fighter when he met Mayweather.

I'd also question Marquez' rating but however high his legitimate p4p ranking was he would always be too small to give Mayweather a true test

CaptainSpacerod wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: According to Ring Magazine:

• Manny Pacquiao (3rd)
• Saul Alvarez (10th)
• Shane Mosley (3rd)
• Juan Manuel Marquez (2nd)
• Ricky Hatton (8th)
• Diego Corrales (5th)

I used an internet archive website to retrieve the pound-for-pound lists from the archived Ring Magazine ratings dated shortly before each of Mayweather's bouts against these men to obtain this info.

There’s no need to guess the answer to this question when the information is easily accessible.

The Ring's ratings can be politically skewed and unreliable. Mosley was at least 5 years past his best and was clearly a much diminished fighter when he met Mayweather.

I'd also question Marquez' rating but however high his legitimate p4p ranking was he would always be too small to give Mayweather a true test

ESPN had him rated similarly. The benefit of hindsight cannot dismiss the fact that Mosley was highly-rated prior to facing Floyd. The same applies to Marquez.

If you'd reviewed the context of the events that had transpired shortly before those bouts, you'd understand the reason why those men were so highly-rated.

Use a web archive website to review the hype those bouts received (shortly before the fight dates) and you'll be able to verify the accuracy of my posts.

Enlightened-One wrote: ESPN had him rated similarly. The benefit of hindsight cannot dismiss the fact that Mosley was highly-rated prior to facing Floyd. The same applies to Marquez.

If you'd reviewed the context of the events that had transpired shortly before those bouts, you'd understand the reason why those men were so highly-rated.

Use a web archive website to review the hype those bouts received (shortly before the fight dates) and you'll be able to verify the accuracy of my posts.

Hype being the operative word.

Even if you're right and Shane was the 3rd best p4p fighter at that time it merely emphasizes what a relatively poor cohort his rating was based on and reinforces the perception of Floyd as a careful cherry picker.

CaptainSpacerod wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: ESPN had him rated similarly. The benefit of hindsight cannot dismiss the fact that Mosley was highly-rated prior to facing Floyd. The same applies to Marquez.

If you'd reviewed the context of the events that had transpired shortly before those bouts, you'd understand the reason why those men were so highly-rated.

Use a web archive website to review the hype those bouts received (shortly before the fight dates) and you'll be able to verify the accuracy of my posts.

Hype being the operative word.

Even if you're right and Shane was the 3rd best p4p fighter at that time it merely emphasizes what a relatively poor cohort his rating was based on and reinforces the perception of Floyd as a careful cherry picker.

Yes he was a cherry picker but he still fought the most or the second most P4P guys and the guy who fought more of them he beat him too.

CaptainSpacerod wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: ESPN had him rated similarly. The benefit of hindsight cannot dismiss the fact that Mosley was highly-rated prior to facing Floyd. The same applies to Marquez.

If you'd reviewed the context of the events that had transpired shortly before those bouts, you'd understand the reason why those men were so highly-rated.

Use a web archive website to review the hype those bouts received (shortly before the fight dates) and you'll be able to verify the accuracy of my posts.

Hype being the operative word.

Even if you're right and Shane was the 3rd best p4p fighter at that time it merely emphasizes what a relatively poor cohort his rating was based on and reinforces the perception of Floyd as a careful cherry picker.

The hype was justified. You just need a history lesson about Shane Mosley's brief career renaissance leading up to the Mayweather fight.

Like I said before, there was genuine anticipation for the Mayweather-Mosley fight and Floyd wasn't an overwhelming bookies favourite.

Read a few articles instead of posting meaningless sound bytes like "hype" or "cherry picker".

Enlightened-One wrote: The hype was justified. You just need a history lesson about Shane Mosley's brief career renaissance leading up to the Mayweather fight.

Like I said before, there was genuine anticipation for the Mayweather-Mosley fight and Floyd wasn't an overwhelming bookies favourite.

Read a few articles instead of posting meaningless sound bytes like "hype" or "cherry picker".

I don't need any history lessons from presumptuous goons like you. You need etiquette lessons you unnecessarily argumentative c4nt.

"Brief career renaissance" can only refer to the way he outclassed a non concrete gloved Margarito, hardly enough to catapult him back to 3rd best p4p.

CaptainSpacerod wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: The hype was justified. You just need a history lesson about Shane Mosley's brief career renaissance leading up to the Mayweather fight.

Like I said before, there was genuine anticipation for the Mayweather-Mosley fight and Floyd wasn't an overwhelming bookies favourite.

Read a few articles instead of posting meaningless sound bytes like "hype" or "cherry picker".

I don't need any history lessons from presumptuous goons like you. You need etiquette lessons you unnecessarily argumentative c4nt.

"Brief career renaissance" can only refer to the way he outclassed a non concrete gloved Margarito, hardly enough to catapult him back to 3rd best p4p.

Instead of being abusive and hypocritical about debating "etiquette", why don't you educate yourself on reality by performing some research on the matter and then intelligently and eloquently articulate a factually-based argument that undermines everything I have said?

All you've done is quote lazy Lemming-like myths borne from ignorance and anti-Mayweather sentiments.

castillo was he top 10 not so sure, but as i remeber prime castillo, some had him around 9-10
hatton
marquez
canelo
cotto

against maidana he lost, against pacquiao it was a draw, so i cant take those 2 guys

pacquiaos list, looks mroe impressiv

cotto
hatton
barrera
morales
marquez
bradley
margarito (maybe, dont forget, prior to fighting manny, marga beat cotto, cintron and clottey, surely some guys had him bottom top 10)

Nah Margarito was well below P4P consideration after the Loaded Gloves scandal. I think he had been inactive for quite a while when he fought Pacquiao because he got suspended for a while so I don't think he was ranked at all by that time even in divisional rankings.

Jip wrote:
against maidana he lost, against pacquiao it was a draw, so i cant take those 2 guys

pacquiaos list, looks mroe impressiv

margarito (maybe, dont forget, prior to fighting manny, marga beat cotto, cintron and clottey, surely some guys had him bottom top 10)

Come on dude! You don't give Floyd credit for beating pacquaio but try to give Pac credit for Margarito.

And two unrecorded losses. Are you Mexican by any chance?