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i watched enough live fight of ggg, gonzales, kovalev and ward to know that these 4 aint p4p king. they good boxers, but not the complet package. whether they faught better opponents. i dont care. having better opponents on your resume, doesnt make you automaticly a better boxer than someone with less big names on his record. often times it has been proven that the man with less fights and no names beaten prior to his fight, at the end won the battle. rigondeaux/donaire and usyk/glowacki just to name 2 examples.

P4P

1. Rigondeaux
2. Lomachenko
3. Inoue
4. Gonzales
5. Golovkin
6. Kovalev
7. Crawford
8. Ward
9. Alvarez
10. Usyk

Jip wrote:i watched enough live fight of ggg, gonzales, kovalev and ward to know that these 4 aint p4p king. they good boxers, but not the complet package. whether they faught better opponents. i dont care. having better opponents on your resume, doesnt make you automaticly a better boxer than someone with less big names on his record. often times it has been proven that the man with less fights and no names beaten prior to his fight, at the end won the battle. rigondeaux/donaire and usyk/glowacki just to name 2 examples.

P4P

1. Rigondeaux
2. Lomachenko
3. Inoue
4. Gonzales
5. Golovkin
6. Kovalev
7. Crawford
8. Ward
9. Alvarez
10. Usyk

Don't P4P lists normally include guys that are at least the champion at their own weight?

I haven't done one for ages.

1. Crawford
2. Gonzalez
3. Kovalev
4. Golovkin
5. Lomachenko
6. Ward
7. Spence
8. Rigondeaux
9. Pac
10. Andrade

Crawford needs to fight someone good to get that status.

diddy wrote:Crawford needs to fight someone good to get that status.

Obviously he doesn't, he's already there.

Ward
Krusher
3G
Chocolatito
Hitman Jr.
GingerHead
Pac
Inoue
Lomachenko
Sometimes

1-3 Crawford/Golovkin/Lomachenko
4-6 Gonzalez/Inoue/Spence
7-9 Kovalev/Thurman/Brook
10-12 Ward/Rigo/Canelo

P.S. I wouldn't be very surprised if Beterbiev or Gvozdyk beat Ward.

Badhusker wrote:

Jip wrote:i watched enough live fight of ggg, gonzales, kovalev and ward to know that these 4 aint p4p king. they good boxers, but not the complet package. whether they faught better opponents. i dont care. having better opponents on your resume, doesnt make you automaticly a better boxer than someone with less big names on his record. often times it has been proven that the man with less fights and no names beaten prior to his fight, at the end won the battle. rigondeaux/donaire and usyk/glowacki just to name 2 examples.

P4P

1. Rigondeaux
2. Lomachenko
3. Inoue
4. Gonzales
5. Golovkin
6. Kovalev
7. Crawford
8. Ward
9. Alvarez
10. Usyk

Don't P4P lists normally include guys that are at least the champion at their own weight?

no