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Virgil Hunter: "C'mon you know the drill, we're not here to entertain!!!"

Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 13:45
by Barra
He said this to Andre Ward at the end of round 2.

I've never heard those words uttered before in boxing.. I think these words ask interesting questions about what a prizefighter wants, what they want to achieve. And what the fans want.

I guess my question is vague, what do you make of Hunters comments? :TU:

Re: Virgil Hunter: "C'mon you know the drill, we're not here to entertain!!!"

Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 13:46
by SaadOffTheDeck
It means don't engage that monster, outbox him.

Re: Virgil Hunter: "C'mon you know the drill, we're not here to entertain!!!"

Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 13:48
by Boxerbeetle
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It means don't engage that monster, outbox him.
This. Pretty self explanatory.

Re: Virgil Hunter: "C'mon you know the drill, we're not here to entertain!!!"

Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 13:52
by BAD INTENTIONS
Barra wrote:He said this to Andre Ward at the end of round 2.

I've never heard those words uttered before in boxing.. I think these words ask interesting questions about what a prizefighter wants, what they want to achieve. And what the fans want.

I guess my question is vague, what do you make of Hunters comments? :TU:
It's something that EVERY basketball coach in the hood tells his team.
EVERY ONE.

In basketball it means, stop doing fancy stuff. Set picks, play D, talk on defense ...
you know, focus on the fundamentals that lead to victory.

Only boxing, mostly due to an increased appetite for violence, are people shocked by such a comment.

Kovalev stuck to his gameplan more strictly than Wards.
But just because Kovalev has power, his gameplan is entertaining ...

Re: Virgil Hunter: "C'mon you know the drill, we're not here to entertain!!!"

Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 13:53
by bigjack
Barra wrote:He said this to Andre Ward at the end of round 2.

I've never heard those words uttered before in boxing.. I think these words ask interesting questions about what a prizefighter wants, what they want to achieve. And what the fans want.

I guess my question is vague, what do you make of Hunters comments? :TU:

I've heard that said many times throughout the years,it means avoid a shootout and just get the win.

Re: Virgil Hunter: "C'mon you know the drill, we're not here to entertain!!!"

Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 13:58
by Barra
Cool guys, I know what it actually means. My question is meant in a deeper sense, though. Think about the question more philosophically, like what we want from the sport as fans, and what fighters want from the sport as prizefighters.

Re: Virgil Hunter: "C'mon you know the drill, we're not here to entertain!!!"

Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 14:09
by Bard of Boxrec
not there to entertain. Must be nice as a fighter to be paid so disproportionately highly to the general interest in you.

Re: Virgil Hunter: "C'mon you know the drill, we're not here to entertain!!!"

Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 14:38
by BAD INTENTIONS
Barra wrote:Cool guys, I know what it actually means. My question is meant in a deeper sense, though. Think about the question more philosophically, like what we want from the sport as fans, and what fighters want from the sport as prizefighters.
Why do you blood and guts guys keep trying to talk for everyone in the sport?

I want a prize fighter to be skilled.
I want a professional fighter to look like he's doing something an amateur can't do ... like both Ward and Kovalev.

Gatti/Ward type fights ruin boxing because it creates the same idiots,
who only want dunks and threes ...
who only want long passes in football ...
who only want home runs in baseball ...
who only want goals in football ...
who only want candy apples for breakfast, sugar for lunch, and hard liquor for dinner ...

It's really childish to not understand that there is a balance to everything.

Re: Virgil Hunter: "C'mon you know the drill, we're not here to entertain!!!"

Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 15:24
by Barra
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Why do you blood and guts guys keep trying to talk for everyone in the sport?

I want a prize fighter to be skilled.
I want a professional fighter to look like he's doing something an amateur can't do ... like both Ward and Kovalev.

Gatti/Ward type fights ruin boxing because it creates the same idiots,
who only want dunks and threes ...
who only want long passes in football ...
who only want home runs in baseball ...
who only want goals in football ...
who only want candy apples for breakfast, sugar for lunch, and hard liquor for dinner ...

It's really childish to not understand that there is a balance to everything.
No, I'm asking a deeper question than Gatti/Ward fans.

Pro boxing is prizefighting. It's entertainment. It's not a sport. It's like buying a ticket to a show, theatre, gig, circus, etc. Of course, winning is extremely important to the market value of that fighter when selling their next fight, but so is the entertainment they provide, probably even more so.

I'm interested in the comments Virgil Hunter made because it's the first time I've heard it said on camera. It's like a 'Taboo' in pro-boxing.

I'm interested in what people think about the implications and meanings behind it.

Re: Virgil Hunter: "C'mon you know the drill, we're not here to entertain!!!"

Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 19:16
by Tanzio
Barra wrote:
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Why do you blood and guts guys keep trying to talk for everyone in the sport?

I want a prize fighter to be skilled.
I want a professional fighter to look like he's doing something an amateur can't do ... like both Ward and Kovalev.

Gatti/Ward type fights ruin boxing because it creates the same idiots,
who only want dunks and threes ...
who only want long passes in football ...
who only want home runs in baseball ...
who only want goals in football ...
who only want candy apples for breakfast, sugar for lunch, and hard liquor for dinner ...

It's really childish to not understand that there is a balance to everything.
No, I'm asking a deeper question than Gatti/Ward fans.

Pro boxing is prizefighting. It's entertainment. It's not a sport. It's like buying a ticket to a show, theatre, gig, circus, etc. Of course, winning is extremely important to the market value of that fighter when selling their next fight, but so is the entertainment they provide, probably even more so.

I'm interested in the comments Virgil Hunter made because it's the first time I've heard it said on camera. It's like a 'Taboo' in pro-boxing.

I'm interested in what people think about the implications and meanings behind it.
I was thoroughly entertained by that fight. What Virgil was saying is essentially Al Davis' "just win, baby."

Re: Virgil Hunter: "C'mon you know the drill, we're not here to entertain!!!"

Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 19:50
by ClivePatrickLyons
He got caught trying to load up early doors his trainer was telling him f the crowd box :box:

Re: Virgil Hunter: "C'mon you know the drill, we're not here to entertain!!!"

Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 13:56
by Srebmun
Barra wrote:He said this to Andre Ward at the end of round 2.

I've never heard those words uttered before in boxing.. I think these words ask interesting questions about what a prizefighter wants, what they want to achieve. And what the fans want.

I guess my question is vague, what do you make of Hunters comments? :TU:
You do realise you're completely wrong yes?

He was talking about the knockdown saying 'don't worry about a knockdown... don't even entertain it' i.e don't let it get to you.