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The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 08:42
by Jip
mayweather retired
hopkins has 1 last fight
wlad is 40
ward will retire soon after being destroyed by other top light heavyweights
when those 4 are gone i will be very happy. they are such a bad influence for other boxers, huck also starting that hugging crap, unbelievable.
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 08:45
by Tanzio
Keep dreaming.
Andre Ward = P4P # 1. Deal with it.
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 08:48
by Jip
Tanzio wrote:Keep dreaming.
Andre Ward = P4P # 1. Deal with it.
hahaha...you the only one thinking so. you non expert if u think ward won, but i got a say, he would be an awesome greco roman wrestler

Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 09:03
by Tanzio
Jip wrote:Tanzio wrote:Keep dreaming.
Andre Ward = P4P # 1. Deal with it.
hahaha...you the only one thinking so. you non expert if u think ward won, but i got a say, he would be an awesome greco roman wrestler

Ward won, and it wasn't as close as I thought the first watching. He won going away. If it had been 15 rounds, it would have been 145-139 Ward or he'd have stopped Krusher.
Just my opinion. Everybody has one. Ward has the W, deservedly.
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 09:05
by Jip
Tanzio wrote:Jip wrote:Tanzio wrote:Keep dreaming.
Andre Ward = P4P # 1. Deal with it.
hahaha...you the only one thinking so. you non expert if u think ward won, but i got a say, he would be an awesome greco roman wrestler

Ward won, and it wasn't as close as I thought the first watching. He won going away. If it had been 15 rounds, it would have been 145-139 Ward or he'd have stopped Krusher.
Just my opinion. Everybody has one. Ward has the W, deservedly.
you funny

Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 09:11
by tigermoth87
Yeah I'm quite glad the boring, spoiling clinches in boxing are on their way out. They do make their fights a struggle to get through.
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 09:12
by Tanzio
Jip wrote:Tanzio wrote:Jip wrote:
hahaha...you the only one thinking so. you non expert if u think ward won, but i got a say, he would be an awesome greco roman wrestler

Ward won, and it wasn't as close as I thought the first watching. He won going away. If it had been 15 rounds, it would have been 145-139 Ward or he'd have stopped Krusher.
Just my opinion. Everybody has one. Ward has the W, deservedly.
you funny

. . . and you are a clown.
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 09:15
by Jip
Tanzio wrote:Jip wrote:Tanzio wrote:
Ward won, and it wasn't as close as I thought the first watching. He won going away. If it had been 15 rounds, it would have been 145-139 Ward or he'd have stopped Krusher.
Just my opinion. Everybody has one. Ward has the W, deservedly.
you funny

. . . and you are a clown.
i am a clown because i say kovalev won, than most people are clowns, cause barely everybody says kov won
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 09:18
by Tanzio
Jip wrote:Tanzio wrote:Jip wrote:
you funny

. . . and you are a clown.
i am a clown because i say kovalev won, than most people are clowns, cause barely everybody says kov won
Don't put words in my mouth, Ronald McBozo. You are a clown. Own it.
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 09:21
by Ricky_
tigermoth87 wrote:Yeah I'm quite glad the boring, spoiling clinches in boxing are on their way out. They do make their fights a struggle to get through.
Corrupt judges scoring negative tactics & boxing snobbery fawning over negative tactics is leading to an era of boring, actionless fights. Combined with poor production value and a lack quality cards & matchups, 2016 really has been a pathetic year for boxing.
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 09:25
by tigermoth87
Ricky_ wrote:tigermoth87 wrote:Yeah I'm quite glad the boring, spoiling clinches in boxing are on their way out. They do make their fights a struggle to get through.
Corrupt judges scoring negative tactics & boxing snobbery fawning over negative tactics is leading to an era of boring, actionless fights. Combined with poor production value and a lack quality cards & matchups, 2016 really has been a pathetic year for boxing.
Yep,
I don't see why running, clinching and spoiling is somehow considered to be good boxing.
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 09:29
by Ricky_
tigermoth87 wrote:Ricky_ wrote:tigermoth87 wrote:Yeah I'm quite glad the boring, spoiling clinches in boxing are on their way out. They do make their fights a struggle to get through.
Corrupt judges scoring negative tactics & boxing snobbery fawning over negative tactics is leading to an era of boring, actionless fights. Combined with poor production value and a lack quality cards & matchups, 2016 really has been a pathetic year for boxing.
Yep,
I don't see why running, clinching and spoiling is somehow considered to be good boxing.
I can see why, negating someone's offense by slipping and holding isn't easy, requires good timing and technique to pull it off, have the ref break, then control distance again. But my problem with it is that 1. It's illegals, and 2. The reason it's illegal is it kills the action and spoils the spectacle. Grappling is a prominent part of MMA, perhaps the fans of spoiling would be better place switching over to the ufc.
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 09:53
by Impractical Poster
Tanzio wrote:Keep dreaming.
Andre Ward = P4P # 1. Deal with it.
Do delight in Ward's style?
I feel it's one of the issues with modern boxing and should not be rewarded.
Even with that said, Kovalev still out punched Ward and landed the more effective shots. So, even with Ward's style, most saw Kovalev beating Ward.
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 09:55
by Ketchel
Did anyone actually watch the fight or do you all rely on the commentators to tell you what is happening in a fight? Kovalev was as guilty of as much holding as Ward. Why? Cos he has feck all inside skills which in this case lost him the fight. What do you guys want? For Ward to fight Kovalev's fight and stand at the end of his punches? Not going to happen. Ward got to the inside whereupon Kovalev tried to shut him down by holding.
I am a bigger fan of Kovalev than Ward but even I could see that Ward was nicking the rounds because of his inside work.
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 10:03
by Impractical Poster
All wrestling that took place in that fight was initiated by Ward.
It's funny, whenever someone has a card that differs from the unofficial judge, they accuse fans that have similar scores of being influenced by that judge.
BTW, the commenting crew was not 100% for Kov. Max was pretty much all over Ward's nuts in that fight.
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 10:06
by Tanzio
Impractical Poster wrote:Tanzio wrote:Keep dreaming.
Andre Ward = P4P # 1. Deal with it.
Do delight in Ward's style?
I feel it's one of the issues with modern boxing and should not be rewarded.
Even with that said, Kovalev still out punched Ward and landed the more effective shots. So, even with Ward's style, most saw Kovalev beating Ward.
Second time through convinced me that it was only close as a result of one punch. Ward outlanded Krusher with jabs, power, and body shots. Ward totally controlled distance. It was not as close as I first thought but I still would have had no problem with 114-113 Krusher.
My only problem is with the squealing piglet horde claiming robbery. Krusher lost. He gets a rematch. End of . . .
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 10:08
by Keko
So many stupid and pointless topic has.

Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 11:25
by crow
Tanzio wrote:Jip wrote:Tanzio wrote:
. . . and you are a clown.
i am a clown because i say kovalev won, than most people are clowns, cause barely everybody says kov won
Don't put words in my mouth, Ronald McBozo. You are a clown. Own it.
Please remind the forum what were your scorecards for the first Pac Bradley fight, you smart talking idiot.

Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 12:07
by JeanClaude Van Damme
This is bad news for Mickey Rourke.
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 15:26
by diddy
Ward will get destroyed by other top light heavyweights?
Hahahahaha. Oh yes because there are so many guys better than Kovalev.
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 15:48
by Tanzio
crow wrote:Tanzio wrote:Jip wrote:
i am a clown because i say kovalev won, than most people are clowns, cause barely everybody says kov won
Don't put words in my mouth, Ronald McBozo. You are a clown. Own it.
Please remind the forum what were your scorecards for the first Pac Bradley fight, you smart talking idiot.

Ramming Speed by a round, and I have stood by it every day since. This fight was not as close as that one. But the squealing pig syndrome was greater.
Ward won a close fight going away. Pac lost a closer fight by giving it away. Again, I wiuld have disagreed with either decision going to the other fighter, but both could have gone either way; especially Pac v Ramming Speed 1.
Resume squealing, piglets.
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 18:17
by Jip
i am so right
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 18:33
by Tony1244
Holding has been gone and out of fashion. Watch films from like 1910 and there was a hell of a lot of holding back then.
Jack Johnson, that era saw a lot of holding. Ali might have brought it back in the 1970s. It goes in and out regarding how much refs put up with it.
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 18:51
by asdfjkl
You should take a look at Teper/Duhaupas, Teper doesn't do anything else as hugging.
Re: The era of the wrestler will soon come to an end
Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 20:28
by Joe Boxer
JeanClaude Van Damme wrote:This is bad news for Mickey Rourke.
Yep. He'll have to stop depending on those DVD residuals :)