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It was an accident. Again. I swear!

This guy is a Fking loser. No talent bum. Someone please teach this idiot how to cheat.

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For crying out loud when are we going to get some practical and sensible drug laws and standards in life and sport?

Is that sarcasm? I can't tell. Are you blaming the drug tests for catching cheaters?

It'll be interesting to see what it is this time.

No. I'm blaming stupid archaic faux morality for having silly PED laws/rules in the first place.

Come on man. We can't have people dying in the ring. Lawsuits would ensue and end the sport completely. States
would never sanction it if you could dump whatever you want into your body with no repercussions. You need testing. Use your brain. You sound like a Neanderthal.

For the record - guys still cheat. Some just do it better than others. BUT the existence of testing keeps the guys from cheating to the ridiculous extents they would go to if there was no testing at all.

diddy wrote:Come on man. We can't have people dying in the ring. Lawsuits would ensue and end the sport completely. States
would never sanction it if you could dump whatever you want into your body with no repercussions. You need testing. Use your brain. You sound like a Neanderthal.

So how many people has Lucas Browne killed in the ring? Marius Wach? Erkan Teper? Tony Thompson? Frans Botha? Jameel McCline? Roy Jones? Sam Soliman? Lamont Peterson? James Toney?

Peformance enhancing drugs do just that, enhance performance. The idea that allowing steroid use will create a murderous row of killers is, to be frank, stupid. Ask Big Larry Olubamiwo how his drug use allowed him to last almost a round with Fat John McDermott. No one really cares about boxers health, if they did they would be out gathering signatures to ban the sport.

I'm not saying all drugs should be allowed, but drugs like HGH and test absolutely should be.

Saying not all drugs should be allowed is the smartest thing you have posted. Had you said that in the first place we wouldn't be having this convo.

diddy wrote:Saying not all drugs should be allowed is the smartest thing you have posted. Had you said that in the first place we wouldn't be having this convo.

"practical and sensible drug laws"

diddy wrote:For the record - guys still cheat. Some just do it better than others. BUT the existence of testing keeps the guys from cheating to the ridiculous extents they would go to if there was no testing at all.

An excellent example of those extents is pac/cotto.

Those Russians poisoned the poor clean guy again. Ban Russians from boxing !

punchoutsb wrote:For crying out loud when are we going to get some practical and sensible drug laws and standards in life and sport?

Yep. What did they find this time, vitamin C? And who is doing the drug testing, Doctor Margaret Goodman's Las Vegas Mafia (Ne)VADA drug testing hustlers again? He's not paying them off enough huh?

And say, who is testing Briggs? He looks to me like he's up to his ears in roids, insane roid rages and all!?

God damnit! Every time Lucas Browne tries to be a pro boxer, nefarious agents spike him with PED's so that he'll fail the drug tests! Why must the world always collaborate against him?! He's just trying to be a clean boxer, and couldn't possibly be responsible for his own cleanliness!

punchoutsb wrote:

diddy wrote:Come on man. We can't have people dying in the ring. Lawsuits would ensue and end the sport completely. States
would never sanction it if you could dump whatever you want into your body with no repercussions. You need testing. Use your brain. You sound like a Neanderthal.

So how many people has Lucas Browne killed in the ring? Marius Wach? Erkan Teper? Tony Thompson? Frans Botha? Jameel McCline? Roy Jones? Sam Soliman? Lamont Peterson? James Toney?

Peformance enhancing drugs do just that, enhance performance. The idea that allowing steroid use will create a murderous row of killers is, to be frank, stupid. Ask Big Larry Olubamiwo how his drug use allowed him to last almost a round with Fat John McDermott. No one really cares about boxers health, if they did they would be out gathering signatures to ban the sport.

I'm not saying all drugs should be allowed, but drugs like HGH and test absolutely should be.

Certain PED's ARE allowed... Aspirin helps with blood flow and is supposedly good for the heart. You can take it and have it in your system with no problem.. Caffeine certainly helps you be more alert and focused, which enhances your game. It’s not banned yet..

Marijuana was added to the PED at some point, because it’s a mood enhancer.

Meldonium was legal for the past 30 years – but was added to the PED list this year. It’s supposed to help regulate your blood flow, but it’s certainly not a steroid, anabolic, mood enhancer, hormone, strength enhancer, fat burner, stimulant, cognitive performance enhancer, ergogenic, blood booster, gene doper, antipsychotic, pain killer, or anxiolytic..

They keep adding more ridiculous things to the list until you better not use any nasal spray, over-the-counter supplement, over-the-counter medication, over-the-counter fat burner, and you have to watch what you eat... If you’re taking any type of prescription medication you’d better check each ingredient against the latest PED list. Failed tests happen because guys like Browne, Teper, Luis Ortiz, and Roy Jones weren’t diligent enough. You'e responsible for what goes into your body. Luis Ortiz ate horse meat, as people in the Cuban community often do -- but horses are sometimes injected with Nandrolone -- so it showed up in Ortiz's test and he was banned for a year or so.

I'm done with this sport for a week or two. 2016 has been pathetic.

This is really disappointing. I gave Browne the benefit of the doubt but the man is clearly a spack.

Boxing needs to get tough on cheats - caught once a two year ban and twice a lifetime ban.

hardly won against old chagaev. browne is out of any discussions concerning him against a top opponent, enough of him

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

diddy wrote:For the record - guys still cheat. Some just do it better than others. BUT the existence of testing keeps the guys from cheating to the ridiculous extents they would go to if there was no testing at all.

An excellent example of those extents is pac/cotto.

I'm not getting your inference there, mate

...what a huge surprise! those fukken Russians have been chasing him around the globe and got him, yet again

punchoutsb wrote:

diddy wrote:Come on man. We can't have people dying in the ring. Lawsuits would ensue and end the sport completely. States
would never sanction it if you could dump whatever you want into your body with no repercussions. You need testing. Use your brain. You sound like a Neanderthal.

So how many people has Lucas Browne killed in the ring? Marius Wach? Erkan Teper? Tony Thompson? Frans Botha? Jameel McCline? Roy Jones? Sam Soliman? Lamont Peterson? James Toney?

Peformance enhancing drugs do just that, enhance performance. The idea that allowing steroid use will create a murderous row of killers is, to be frank, stupid. Ask Big Larry Olubamiwo how his drug use allowed him to last almost a round with Fat John McDermott. No one really cares about boxers health, if they did they would be out gathering signatures to ban the sport.

I'm not saying all drugs should be allowed, but drugs like HGH and test absolutely should be.

Saying that though- Teper looked horrendous against Hammer. He's never been the most skilled but he did atleast have some pop and some durability when he was juiced off his tits. Against Hammer it looked like he had no power whatsoever and he got hurt in the fight against a moderate puncher.

I can see the argument for allowing PED's to be allowed but what about the guys that don't want to take them due to health concerns? You mentionex HGH and that is an incredibly potent drug that can help reverse the effects of ageing to an extent amongst other things but it also causes growth in other areas that you wouldn't want growth and can speed up the growth of cancerous tumours and so forth.

If I were him I'd make some offensive comments about "abbos", "rock spiders" and "gollywogs", come out as a meth head, claim a media witch hunt against bogans, retire with "anxiety" due to "how I have been treated" and then hope the PED allegations are forgotten among the ensuing furore.

Mind games.

Either they're gunning for this guy or Browne is an idiot.

Agreed some substances are on the ban list and shouldn't be, but Browne should know this.

Stick to food and water, its really that simple.

Lucas Browne failed a VADA test as part of the WBC program, but we don’t know if this will affect his WBA title fight against Shannon Briggs.

It must be noted that the WBA may follow in the footsteps of the WBC (as per the Stiverne situation) and allow the bout to go ahead regardless, especially since the Australian had previously received an out-of-court settlement from the WBA over his first alleged “failure”.

Assuming Lucas Browne receives some sort of temporary suspension pending further investigation (if his B-sample returns a positive result), then this could mean that David Haye or Alexander Ustinov could face Shannong Briggs for the vacant WBA “regular” title (because Fres Oquendo is injured).

What an utterly bizarre situation!

Counter-puncher wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

diddy wrote:For the record - guys still cheat. Some just do it better than others. BUT the existence of testing keeps the guys from cheating to the ridiculous extents they would go to if there was no testing at all.

An excellent example of those extents is pac/cotto.

I'm not getting your inference there, mate

That particular fight I consider Manny the ped poster child. Perfect blend of talent and chemistry.