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USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 01:08
by Ilya Muromets
USA Today:
"People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/11/people- ... ey-kovalev
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 01:22
by Ilya Muromets
What is surprising is the source - and these are all US sources calling "BS!". We haven't even heard from Kovalev's side, the Russian media.
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 01:32
by ldlamb
Whatever
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 19:23
by Tanzio
x2x wrote:What is surprising of the source - and these are all US sources calling "BS!". We haven't even heard from Kovalev's side, the Russian media.
The election is over. Ward won, unanimously . . . resume squealing.
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 19:35
by Horse
The people have spoken, Kovalev won.
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 19:42
by Tanzio
Horse wrote:The people have spoken, Kovalev won.
Or, in your case whinny and neighing.
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 20:13
by asdfjkl
x2x wrote:What is surprising of the source - and these are all US sources calling "BS!". We haven't even heard from Kovalev's side, the Russian media.
Because they know all the belts go to America if you don't KO the American. Ask Povetkin, he didn't even receive the chance to fight at all.
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 21:20
by Ilya Muromets
asdfjkl wrote:x2x wrote:What is surprising of the source - and these are all US sources calling "BS!". We haven't even heard from Kovalev's side, the Russian media.
Because they know all the belts go to America if you don't KO the American. Ask
Povetkin, he didn't even receive the chance to fight at all.
Yeah, I talked about that elsewhere when I was saying that the Russians should pull out of all the crooked western alphabet things and las vegas drug testing rackets and make their own sports associations along with eastern Europe and the BRIC countries.
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 21:23
by Ilya Muromets
Tanzio wrote:x2x wrote:What is surprising of the source - and these are all US sources calling "BS!". We haven't even heard from Kovalev's side, the Russian media.
The election is over. Ward won, unanimously . . . resume squealing.
Election? Three las vegas mugs all dressed up in judge suits is an election?
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 22:44
by SFW
asdfjkl wrote:x2x wrote:What is surprising of the source - and these are all US sources calling "BS!". We haven't even heard from Kovalev's side, the Russian media.
Because they know all the belts go to America if you don't KO the American. Ask Povetkin, he didn't even receive the chance to fight at all.
Oh yeah! Just like Kell Brook and Carl Frampton! your so right, thank you
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 23:54
by boxing_rocks
x2x wrote:Tanzio wrote:x2x wrote:What is surprising of the source - and these are all US sources calling "BS!". We haven't even heard from Kovalev's side, the Russian media.
The election is over. Ward won, unanimously . . . resume squealing.
Election? Three las vegas mugs all dressed up in judge suits is an election?
It is extremely hard to beat your opponent if judge(s) are on his side. I just experienced that in a traffic court where a judge unconditionally sided with prosecution and a police officer having huge holes in their case. Kovalev needed to stop Ward or at least drop him a couple more times. I doubt that the second KD would do it. Judges would just say that Ward won 9 rounds.
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 23:57
by tigermoth87
I knew there was going to be a robbery after the Perez disgrace.
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 00:06
by Ilya Muromets
tigermoth87 wrote:I knew there was going to be a robbery after the Perez disgrace.
It sure was, especially judge Hoyle giving the fight to Hooker 97-93. Las Vegas is probably the crookedest place in the world for boxing, just ahead of Grozny. It's the crookedest city in the world, founded and funded and run by the Mafia with one thought in mind - fleece the suckers. No foreign fighter should ever fight there - but then they pay the big bucks. Fights in LV are as fixed as their "gaming" machines.
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 00:13
by boxing_rocks
x2x wrote:tigermoth87 wrote:I knew there was going to be a robbery after the Perez disgrace.
It sure was, especially judge Hoyle giving the fight to Hooker 97-93. Las Vegas is probably the crookedest place in the world for boxing, just ahead of Grozny. It's the crookedest city in the world, founded and funded and run by the Mafia with one thought in mind - fleece the suckers. No foreign fighter should ever fight there - but then they pay the big bucks. Fights in LV are as fixed as their "gaming" machines.

Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 12:28
by Ilya Muromets
boxing_rocks wrote:x2x wrote:tigermoth87 wrote:I knew there was going to be a robbery after the Perez disgrace.
It sure was, especially judge Hoyle giving the fight to Hooker 97-93. Las Vegas is probably the crookedest place in the world for boxing, just ahead of Grozny. It's the crookedest city in the world, founded and funded and run by the Mafia with one thought in mind - fleece the suckers. No foreign fighter should ever fight there - but then they pay the big bucks. Fights in LV are as fixed as their "gaming" machines.

Judge Robert Hoyle, hometown Las Vegas:
http://boxrec.com/person/401536
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 19:24
by asdfjkl
SFW wrote:asdfjkl wrote:x2x wrote:What is surprising of the source - and these are all US sources calling "BS!". We haven't even heard from Kovalev's side, the Russian media.
Because they know all the belts go to America if you don't KO the American. Ask Povetkin, he didn't even receive the chance to fight at all.
Oh yeah! Just like Kell Brook and Carl Frampton! your so right, thank you
Yea, tipical Russians indeed :s
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 19:31
by Tanzio
asdfjkl wrote:SFW wrote:asdfjkl wrote:
Because they know all the belts go to America if you don't KO the American. Ask Povetkin, he didn't even receive the chance to fight at all.
Oh yeah! Just like Kell Brook and Carl Frampton! your so right, thank you
Yea, tipical Russians indeed :s
Yep, typical. If the Russian doesn't win it had to be one of two scenarios, in their minds; the opponent cheated somehow, or the Russian did not cheat well enough

Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 19:42
by asdfjkl
Tanzio wrote:asdfjkl wrote:SFW wrote:
Oh yeah! Just like Kell Brook and Carl Frampton! your so right, thank you
Yea, tipical Russians indeed :s
Yep, typical. If the Russian doesn't win it had to be one of two scenarios, in their minds; the opponent cheated somehow, or the Russian did not cheat well enough

For the time being Wilder obviously got away with his shit and he still hasn't payed about 80 million dollar, not even half of it, not a dime in fact.
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 19:42
by boxing_rocks
Tanzio wrote:asdfjkl wrote:SFW wrote:
Oh yeah! Just like Kell Brook and Carl Frampton! your so right, thank you
Yea, tipical Russians indeed :s
Yep, typical. If the Russian doesn't win it had to be one of two scenarios, in their minds; the opponent cheated somehow, or the Russian did not cheat well enough

You are an idiot. Is the new cold war against Russians or against English ?
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 19:53
by Tanzio
boxing_rocks wrote:Tanzio wrote:asdfjkl wrote:
Yea, tipical Russians indeed :s
Yep, typical. If the Russian doesn't win it had to be one of two scenarios, in their minds; the opponent cheated somehow, or the Russian did not cheat well enough

You are an idiot. Is the new cold war against Russians or against English ?
You know that I'm correct. Don't pout about it.
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 20:57
by Ilya Muromets
asdfjkl wrote:Tanzio wrote:asdfjkl wrote:
Yea, tipical Russians indeed :s
Yep, typical. If the Russian doesn't win it had to be one of two scenarios, in their minds; the opponent cheated somehow, or the Russian did not cheat well enough

For the time being Wilder obviously got away with his poo and he still hasn't payed about 80 million dollar, not even half of it, not a dime in fact.
Wilder had no intention of fighting Povetkin. Fighters planning to fight in a far away place generally go there in advance to acclimate themselves and train in that country and avoid travel fatigue right before the fight. Wilder never went to Russia. His handlers watched the video of Povetkin-Perez and said, "Whoa! We don't want to lose our cash cow that quickly!" I don't think Wilder is a bad sort, but I think that was pretty much the scenario, and the telling point is that they are not interested in rescheduling it. A lotta "poo" as the censoring software here puts it!
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 01:52
by asdfjkl
x2x wrote:asdfjkl wrote:Tanzio wrote:
Yep, typical. If the Russian doesn't win it had to be one of two scenarios, in their minds; the opponent cheated somehow, or the Russian did not cheat well enough

For the time being Wilder obviously got away with his poo and he still hasn't payed about 80 million dollar, not even half of it, not a dime in fact.
Wilder had no intention of fighting Povetkin. Fighters planning to fight in a far away place generally go there in advance to acclimate themselves and train in that country and avoid travel fatigue right before the fight. Wilder never went to Russia. His handlers watched the video of Povetkin-Perez and said, "Whoa! We don't want to lose our cash cow that quickly!" I don't think Wilder is a bad sort, but I think that was pretty much the scenario, and the telling point is that they are not interested in rescheduling it. A lotta "poo" as the censoring software here puts it!
Exactly, and that's why the WBC should duck him as a champion, just like they would have done with a Russian champion.
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 01:56
by Tanzio
asdfjkl wrote:x2x wrote:asdfjkl wrote:
For the time being Wilder obviously got away with his poo and he still hasn't payed about 80 million dollar, not even half of it, not a dime in fact.
Wilder had no intention of fighting Povetkin. Fighters planning to fight in a far away place generally go there in advance to acclimate themselves and train in that country and avoid travel fatigue right before the fight. Wilder never went to Russia. His handlers watched the video of Povetkin-Perez and said, "Whoa! We don't want to lose our cash cow that quickly!" I don't think Wilder is a bad sort, but I think that was pretty much the scenario, and the telling point is that they are not interested in rescheduling it. A lotta "poo" as the censoring software here puts it!
Exactly, and that's why the WBC should duck him as a champion, just like they would have done with a Russian champion.
Good omnipotent figment of my imagination, the Russian self pity is like a black hole.
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 02:41
by boxing_rocks
Tanzio wrote:boxing_rocks wrote:Tanzio wrote:
Yep, typical. If the Russian doesn't win it had to be one of two scenarios, in their minds; the opponent cheated somehow, or the Russian did not cheat well enough

You are an idiot. Is the new cold war against Russians or against English ?
You know that I'm correct. Don't pout about it.
"Tanzio is correct" is an absurd.
Re: USA Today: "People are furious after Andre Ward's 'robbery' win over Sergey Kovalev"
Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 03:29
by Tanzio
boxing_rocks wrote:Tanzio wrote:boxing_rocks wrote:
You are an idiot. Is the new cold war against Russians or against English ?
You know that I'm correct. Don't pout about it.
"Tanzio is correct" is an absurd.
Come on, man, you know that the only problem that you had with the FSB's coordinated circumvention of the drug testing regimen for the Olympics was that they got caught. Of course, typical Russian tactics are to point at everybody else and claim they are guilty.
Putin has perfected that tactic.