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Rather than beating down and criticizing Wilder or the match please give any progress report.

No.
When Wilder is fit again he is supposed to fight the winner of the forthcoming Povetkin-Stiverne interim title bout.
Maybe he could face Hughie after that.

SteveO wrote:No.
When Wilder is fit again he is supposed to fight the winner of the forthcoming Povetkin-Stiverne interim title bout.
Maybe he could face Hughie after that.

He'll be allowed a voluntary first.

Wilder is a joke. He's gonna avoid Top 10 opponents through his entire reign I guess. I can't wait to see Bum Squad knocked out.

Hughie has not got any chance against fit Wilder. Every unbiased fan knows that. Peter Fury knows that, and will not allow this fight.

gilgamesh wrote:Wilder is a joke. He's gonna avoid Top 10 opponents through his entire reign I guess. I can't wait to see Bum Squad knocked out.

Seriously?. . . . Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupa, Szpilka. . . .all top 10. . . and Arreola was a former world title challenger who stepped up to take a fight . . . .Dood, are you even a knowledgable boxing fan?

actjac wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Wilder is a joke. He's gonna avoid Top 10 opponents through his entire reign I guess. I can't wait to see Bum Squad knocked out.

Seriously?. . . . Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupa, Szpilka. . . .all top 10. . . and Arreola was a former world title challenger who stepped up to take a fight . . . .Dood, are you even a knowledgable boxing fan?

None of those guys were Top 10. I'm a more knowledgeable boxing fan than you if you believe they were. Molina and Duhaupas weren't even Top 15 when he fought them.

Let's stop f_____g about now Hughie Fury this is stupid, just because he has the same surname as Tyson doesn't make him anything remotely close to a rank fighter.
WTF is going on here, a brother of a celebrity automatically qualifies to challenge Deontay.
On my life I'm gonna do one on the gypsies any day now to expose them if they don't STFU .
Let's get back to reality here everybody because I'm about to go off on them and embarrass these pretenders.

BJS is next be warned and I'll do the rest of the British phoneys while I'm at it.

Be sensible, hype is hype and I'm for it but this is getting stupid.

actjac wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Wilder is a joke. He's gonna avoid Top 10 opponents through his entire reign I guess. I can't wait to see Bum Squad knocked out.

Seriously?. . . . Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupa, Szpilka. . . .all top 10. . . and Arreola was a former world title challenger who stepped up to take a fight . . . .Dood, are you even a knowledgable boxing fan?

Stiverne was the only one of those who I think should've been ranked top 10 at the time. Molina had been KO'd by Arreola in his only previous bout with a solid opponent (Arreola wasn't shot at that point) and hadn't beaten anyone better than Tony Grano; Duhaupas had recently lost to Teper and his best win was an MD over Manuel Charr; and in Szpilka's only previous bout with a good opponent he had been toyed with and stopped by Jennings.

You have to be pretty generous to those guys to have considered them among the top 10 in the division based on ability or resume; they may have been top 10 in ABC rankings, but so was Mark de Mori.

I don't really think gil's post was 'Seriously?' worthy.....

crusader wrote:

actjac wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Wilder is a joke. He's gonna avoid Top 10 opponents through his entire reign I guess. I can't wait to see Bum Squad knocked out.

Seriously?. . . . Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupa, Szpilka. . . .all top 10. . . and Arreola was a former world title challenger who stepped up to take a fight . . . .Dood, are you even a knowledgable boxing fan?

Stiverne was the only one of those who I think should've been ranked top 10 at the time. Molina had been KO'd by Arreola in his only previous bout with a solid opponent (Arreola wasn't shot at that point) and hadn't beaten anyone better than Tony Grano; Duhaupas had recently lost to Teper and his best win was an MD over Manuel Charr; and in Szpilka's only previous bout with a good opponent he had been toyed with and stopped by Jennings.

You have to be pretty generous to those guys to have considered them among the top 10 in the division based on ability or resume; they may have been top 10 in ABC rankings, but so was Mark de Mori.

I don't really think gil's post was 'Seriously?' worthy.....

Stiverne is the only Top 10 opponent Wilder has fought. The WBC or whatever might've had these other guys in their Top 10, but that just shows what a joke the alphabet rankings can be, and that they're obviously bought and sold.

What Deontay - Hughie fight?

gilgamesh wrote:

actjac wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Wilder is a joke. He's gonna avoid Top 10 opponents through his entire reign I guess. I can't wait to see Bum Squad knocked out.

Seriously?. . . . Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupa, Szpilka. . . .all top 10. . . and Arreola was a former world title challenger who stepped up to take a fight . . . .Dood, are you even a knowledgable boxing fan?

None of those guys were Top 10. I'm a more knowledgeable boxing fan than you if you believe they were. Molina and Duhaupas weren't even Top 15 when he fought them.

These are top 10 guys currently ranked 2, 4, 6, 8. . . . worthy and credible opponents.. . . .My gawd look up early title defenses for Larry Holmes, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Muhammad Ali, Lennox Lewis by comparison.

actjac wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

actjac wrote:
Seriously?. . . . Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupa, Szpilka. . . .all top 10. . . and Arreola was a former world title challenger who stepped up to take a fight . . . .Dood, are you even a knowledgable boxing fan?

None of those guys were Top 10. I'm a more knowledgeable boxing fan than you if you believe they were. Molina and Duhaupas weren't even Top 15 when he fought them.

These are top 10 guys currently ranked 2, 4, 6, 8. . . . worthy and credible opponents.. . . .My gawd look up early title defenses for Larry Holmes, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Muhammad Ali, Lennox Lewis by comparison.

2,4,6,8...Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupa, Szpilka? What rankings are you looking at?

x2x wrote:

actjac wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
None of those guys were Top 10. I'm a more knowledgeable boxing fan than you if you believe they were. Molina and Duhaupas weren't even Top 15 when he fought them.

These are top 10 guys currently ranked 2, 4, 6, 8. . . . worthy and credible opponents.. . . .My gawd look up early title defenses for Larry Holmes, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Muhammad Ali, Lennox Lewis by comparison.

2,4,6,8...Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupa, Szpilka? What rankings are you looking at?

He's making 'em up is my only assumption. Stiverne was Top 10, Szpilka was Top 15. Duhaupas and Molina weren't even Top 20 at the time they fought Wilder. Duhaupas has since earned a higher ranking by beating Helenius.

actjac wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Wilder is a joke. He's gonna avoid Top 10 opponents through his entire reign I guess. I can't wait to see Bum Squad knocked out.

Seriously?. . . . Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupa, Szpilka. . . .all top 10. . . and Arreola was a former world title challenger who stepped up to take a fight . . . .Dood, are you even a knowledgable boxing fan?

You must have like 35 fighters in your top 10.

gilgamesh wrote:

x2x wrote:

actjac wrote:

These are top 10 guys currently ranked 2, 4, 6, 8. . . . worthy and credible opponents.. . . .My gawd look up early title defenses for Larry Holmes, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Muhammad Ali, Lennox Lewis by comparison.

2,4,6,8...Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupa, Szpilka? What rankings are you looking at?

He's making 'em up is my only assumption. Stiverne was Top 10, Szpilka was Top 15. Duhaupas and Molina weren't even Top 20 at the time they fought Wilder. Duhaupas has since earned a higher ranking by beating Helenius.

My gawd. . . .I only wanted an update on the fight not debate with old ladies . . .

WBC
1 .- Alexander Povetkin (Russia)
2 .- Bermane Stiverne (Haiti/Canada)
3 .- Kubrat Pulev (Bulgaria) EBU
4 .- Johann Duhaupas (France) SILVER
5 .- Bryant Jennings (US)
6 .- Artur Szpilka (Poland)
7 .- Gerald Washington (US)
8 .- Carlos Takam (Cameroon)
9 .- Mariusz Wach (Poland)
10 .- Dillian Whyte (Jamaica/GB) INTL/BBB C


16 .- Chris Arreola (US)


IBF
1 NOT RATED
 
2 Kubrat Pulev

3 David Haye

4 Johan Duhaupas

5 Carlos Takam

6 Luis Ortiz

7 Vyacheslav Glazkov

8 Eric Molina

9 Jarrell Miller

10 David Price

So you're going by crappy ABC rankings? In that case, Mark de Mori was a top 10 heavyweight as well, despite having only beaten total trash.

ABC rankings are a joke for the most part, as they move guys up and down to make it a legit fight so it gets sanctioned. One thing we have found out about a few of Wilder's opponents is that they aren't as bad as most previously thought.
Out of these rankings, only the fight news rankings makes remotely any sense. http://www.fightnews.com/rankings-2

actjac wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

actjac wrote:
Seriously?. . . . Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupa, Szpilka. . . .all top 10. . . and Arreola was a former world title challenger who stepped up to take a fight . . . .Dood, are you even a knowledgable boxing fan?

None of those guys were Top 10. I'm a more knowledgeable boxing fan than you if you believe they were. Molina and Duhaupas weren't even Top 15 when he fought them.

These are top 10 guys currently ranked 2, 4, 6, 8. . . . worthy and credible opponents.. . . .My gawd look up early title defenses for Larry Holmes, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Muhammad Ali, Lennox Lewis by comparison.

Holmes fought a Zanon, Foreman fought a King Roman, Frazier, Zygelitiwtz, Stander, etc, but they all eventually fought the top guys. Wilder hasn't eventually fought anyone yet. Stiverne had "a belt" but was so inactive, he was barely top 10 himself. I like watching Wilder fight and I don't mind his bomb squad act, but seriously man, step it up already.

Badhusker wrote:ABC rankings are a joke for the most part, as they move guys up and down to make it a legit fight so it gets sanctioned. One thing we have found out about a few of Wilder's opponents is that they aren't as bad as most previously thought.
Out of these rankings, only the fight news rankings makes remotely any sense. http://www.fightnews.com/rankings-2

I think his opponents were as bad as we all thought, turned out Wilder is just worse than people think.

Killer Blow wrote:

SteveO wrote:No.
When Wilder is fit again he is supposed to fight the winner of the forthcoming Povetkin-Stiverne interim title bout.
Maybe he could face Hughie after that.

He'll be allowed a voluntary first.

Another one?!

I expect Wilder to duck this fight, just like he did when Hughie was about 19 or 20 year old. Hughie is simply far too good competition for Wilder. Despite Hughie is still younger as Wilder was when he won bronze at the olympics.

asdfjkl wrote:I expect Wilder to duck this fight, just like he did when Hughie was about 19 or 20 year old. Hughie is simply far too good competition for Wilder. Despite Hughie is still younger as Wilder was when he won bronze at the olympics.

Wilder would spark him.

actjac wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

x2x wrote:
2,4,6,8...Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupa, Szpilka? What rankings are you looking at?

He's making 'em up is my only assumption. Stiverne was Top 10, Szpilka was Top 15. Duhaupas and Molina weren't even Top 20 at the time they fought Wilder. Duhaupas has since earned a higher ranking by beating Helenius.

My gawd. . . .I only wanted an update on the fight not debate with old ladies . . .

WBC
1 .- Alexander Povetkin (Russia)
2 .- Bermane Stiverne (Haiti/Canada)
3 .- Kubrat Pulev (Bulgaria) EBU
4 .- Johann Duhaupas (France) SILVER
5 .- Bryant Jennings (US)
6 .- Artur Szpilka (Poland)
7 .- Gerald Washington (US)
8 .- Carlos Takam (Cameroon)
9 .- Mariusz Wach (Poland)
10 .- Dillian Whyte (Jamaica/GB) INTL/BBB C


16 .- Chris Arreola (US)


IBF
1 NOT RATED
 
2 Kubrat Pulev

3 David Haye

4 Johan Duhaupas

5 Carlos Takam

6 Luis Ortiz

7 Vyacheslav Glazkov

8 Eric Molina

9 Jarrell Miller

10 David Price

Are you just plain dumb or what? You also think Jennings is rank 5 of the world? Or that Ortiz would lose against Daffy? I'm sorry mate, but considering Wilder his opponents to be top 10 guys is a joke. It's just the WBC that listens to Wilder his wishes who he wants to be high ranked.

Killer Blow wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:I expect Wilder to duck this fight, just like he did when Hughie was about 19 or 20 year old. Hughie is simply far too good competition for Wilder. Despite Hughie is still younger as Wilder was when he won bronze at the olympics.

Wilder would spark him.

Nope, Wilder would duck him, just like last time.