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What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 01:54
by Taansend
Are there any big fights for him at Super Feather or Lightweight?

He's a BIG name fighter who doesn't fight too often. You could easily argue that he's the best P4P around (although you could easily argue that he isn't :D ) but he doesn't seem the type to try to clean up divisions. He just goes after the big names - which is fair enough - so who is the next big name for him to fight?

I LOVE watching him fight. It's like poetry in motion.

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 01:57
by crusader
No mouthwatering fights at 130, but Sosa, Vargas, and Salido (who of course beat him) are solid, and they all come to fight. Corrales would be a decent unification opponent if he beats Uchiyama again.

I like Pedraza, but I think he and his next opponent are with Haymon.

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 02:05
by tigermoth87
I'd like to see him clear out the division. In my opinion, the fights at this weight are no worse than the ones at lightweight. Sosa, Pedraza and Vargas are on about the same level as the big 3 at lightweight.

Might as well stick at super featherweight for now and clear it out.

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 07:21
by samwbr
Salido rematch then Pacquiao

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 08:07
by davie
samwbr wrote:Salido rematch then Pacquiao
What weight would you have the Pacquiao match at.
Loma could comfortably go up to lightweight, but he's only just arrived at SFW. a jump to 140 might be a huge ask without a fight to settle at a higher weight.

Equally Pacquiao could probably easily make 140lbs, 135 might be extremely hard, it's not as if Manny has plenty excess body fat to shed.

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 08:29
by DannyMCR
I would imagine he's pretty keen on avenging the Salido loss. Would like to see him in with Pedraza at 130, if he was to move up, a fight with Linares would be outstanding

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 08:32
by davie
DannyMCR wrote:I would imagine he's pretty keen on avenging the Salido loss. Would like to see him in with Pedraza at 130, if he was to move up, a fight with Linares would be outstanding
I'd be happy with that

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 09:55
by samwbr
davie wrote:
samwbr wrote:Salido rematch then Pacquiao
What weight would you have the Pacquiao match at.
Loma could comfortably go up to lightweight, but he's only just arrived at SFW. a jump to 140 might be a huge ask without a fight to settle at a higher weight.

Equally Pacquiao could probably easily make 140lbs, 135 might be extremely hard, it's not as if Manny has plenty excess body fat to shed.
Commentary last night reckoned Manny would do 135

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 10:05
by davie
samwbr wrote:
davie wrote:
samwbr wrote:Salido rematch then Pacquiao
What weight would you have the Pacquiao match at.
Loma could comfortably go up to lightweight, but he's only just arrived at SFW. a jump to 140 might be a huge ask without a fight to settle at a higher weight.

Equally Pacquiao could probably easily make 140lbs, 135 might be extremely hard, it's not as if Manny has plenty excess body fat to shed.
Commentary last night reckoned Manny would do 135
I know Manny's a small WW but to lose 12lbs when he's that ripped wouldn't be easy. Particularly when he no longer lives boxing the way he once did. He's got another career to think about

I would be interested to see what kind of fighter he could be at lightweight but he'd have to put his 37 year old body through considerable strain to get there

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 10:08
by wesshaw1985
Lomachenko should unify the Super Featherweight division then move up to Lightweight -

vs. Francisco Vargas (WBC)
vs. Jose Pedraza (IBF)
vs. Jason Sosa (WBA 'Regular')
vs. Jezreel Corrales (WBA 'Super')

any of these fights give him any trouble?
Which ones are the easiest to make?

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 10:45
by boxingknockout
I think it would be good for everyone to see him paste Salido. I think he would befuddle and stop him now

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 12:07
by Taansend
boxingknockout wrote:I think it would be good for everyone to see him paste Salido. I think he would befuddle and stop him now
I don't see him stopping him unless Salido pulls a Walters :lol:

No fornicating way can Manny make Lightweight.

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 12:16
by Deserter
Taansend wrote:
boxingknockout wrote:I think it would be good for everyone to see him paste Salido. I think he would befuddle and stop him now
I don't see him stopping him unless Salido pulls a Walters :lol:

No effing way can Manny make Lightweight.
He wasn't that far off stopping him in the 12th of their first fight so I can definitely seeing him doing a complete number on him this time around.

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 12:26
by Ricky_
samwbr wrote:
davie wrote:
samwbr wrote:Salido rematch then Pacquiao
What weight would you have the Pacquiao match at.
Loma could comfortably go up to lightweight, but he's only just arrived at SFW. a jump to 140 might be a huge ask without a fight to settle at a higher weight.

Equally Pacquiao could probably easily make 140lbs, 135 might be extremely hard, it's not as if Manny has plenty excess body fat to shed.
Commentary last night reckoned Manny would do 135

Maybe.... he drained like hell back in the day, tougher now he's an old man though.

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 12:27
by TheLeprechaun
The only people who can give him a fight are Mikey Garcia and Crawford at 140. You have to make him favorite against both, even though he's fighting at 130 at the moment

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 12:29
by gilgamesh
TheLeprechaun wrote:The only people who can give him a fight are Mikey Garcia and Crawford at 140. You have to make him favorite against both, even though he's fighting at 130 at the moment
Why do you have to make him the favorite against Crawford? I don't think he beats Crawford.

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 12:35
by davie
gilgamesh wrote:
TheLeprechaun wrote:The only people who can give him a fight are Mikey Garcia and Crawford at 140. You have to make him favorite against both, even though he's fighting at 130 at the moment
Why do you have to make him the favorite against Crawford? I don't think he beats Crawford.
It's a tough tough call.
Crawford is a very good fighter but perhaps not technically at Lomas level IMO, he'd have physical advantages and hits hard.

Until we could see how Loma steps up, I'd have to favour Crawford at 140 for now. But tgat's as much down to size as ability

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 17:28
by Finn
I wonder how viable it would be for him to move down a weight. Him v frampton would be tasty!

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 17:56
by boxingknockout
Finn wrote:I wonder how viable it would be for him to move down a weight. Him v frampton would be tasty!
No it wouldn't. Frampton's huge head would get battered like a bongo

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 18:06
by freddydoesdallas
wesshaw1985 wrote:Lomachenko should unify the Super Featherweight division then move up to Lightweight -

vs. Francisco Vargas (WBC)
vs. Jose Pedraza (IBF)
vs. Jason Sosa (WBA 'Regular')
vs. Jezreel Corrales (WBA 'Super')

any of these fights give him any trouble?
Which ones are the easiest to make?
Isn't he mid 30s already. Those fights will take him nearer to 40 than 30

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 18:21
by the patriot
freddydoesdallas wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:Lomachenko should unify the Super Featherweight division then move up to Lightweight -

vs. Francisco Vargas (WBC)
vs. Jose Pedraza (IBF)
vs. Jason Sosa (WBA 'Regular')
vs. Jezreel Corrales (WBA 'Super')

any of these fights give him any trouble?
Which ones are the easiest to make?
Isn't he mid 30s already. Those fights will take him nearer to 40 than 30
28 according to Boxrec.. was only thinking today, why he didn't turn pro 5 years ago?? I know the Ams has its benefits (well if your British it does) but can't help thinking he Could've don even so much more if he turned earlier..

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 18:37
by wesshaw1985
freddydoesdallas wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:Lomachenko should unify the Super Featherweight division then move up to Lightweight -

vs. Francisco Vargas (WBC)
vs. Jose Pedraza (IBF)
vs. Jason Sosa (WBA 'Regular')
vs. Jezreel Corrales (WBA 'Super')

any of these fights give him any trouble?
Which ones are the easiest to make?
Isn't he mid 30s already. Those fights will take him nearer to 40 than 30
if Loma and Arum get there arses in gear they could face 3 of these guys in 2017.
Sosa has just fought, Corrales is booked for New Years Eve in Japan and Pedraza is booked for the 14th of Jan. Vargas hasn't fought since June and doesn't have anything booked in.
Arum could easily get Sosa or start negotiations with Vargas for an early 2017 fight, then Corrales in the summer and Pedraza to finish off the year undisputed champ and move up a weight in 2018...

Re: What's Next for Lomachenko?

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 18:58
by davie
the patriot wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:Lomachenko should unify the Super Featherweight division then move up to Lightweight -

vs. Francisco Vargas (WBC)
vs. Jose Pedraza (IBF)
vs. Jason Sosa (WBA 'Regular')
vs. Jezreel Corrales (WBA 'Super')

any of these fights give him any trouble?
Which ones are the easiest to make?
Isn't he mid 30s already. Those fights will take him nearer to 40 than 30
28 according to Boxrec.. was only thinking today, why he didn't turn pro 5 years ago?? I know the Ams has its benefits (well if your British it does) but can't help thinking he Could've don even so much more if he turned earlier..

Swings and roundabouts.
He probably wouldn't be half the fighter he is now without that amateur experience