Walters disgraced himself tonight
Walters disgraced himself tonight
If a fighter quit like that back in my youth at Duquesne Garden, he'd have been pelted to death in the ring with Iron City bottles. The way that fight ended was shameful. Please will one of you egg heads in the know tell me if his purse was suspended.it definitely should,have been. Sure lomenchenki is good...but have a little balls and go out on your shield.
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I doubt his purse will be suspended, but he'll never again enjoy the notoriety he had as a fighter coming into the ring tonight. I doubt he's ever able to recapture that status.
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he was taking a beating, Loma punches are harder than you gouys think. Fighters are dying after 12 rounds like this.
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It could've went 40 rounds and Walters would've been fine. Exaggerate much?Cent0089 wrote:he was taking a beating, Loma punches are harder than you gouys think. Fighters are dying after 12 rounds like this.
Lomachenko was winning clearly, yes, but it was nowhere near that kind of beating.
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tigermoth87
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Re: Walters disgraced himself tonight
It was shameful.
Showed a complete lack of heart.
Showed a complete lack of heart.
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gilgamesh wrote:It could've went 40 rounds and Walters would've been fine. Exaggerate much?Cent0089 wrote:he was taking a beating, Loma punches are harder than you gouys think. Fighters are dying after 12 rounds like this.
Lomachenko was winning clearly, yes, but it was nowhere near that kind of beating.
To be fair to Walters it was beginning to turn into a pasting. The last minute or so of what turned out to be the last round consisted of Lomachenko swarming all over Walters who just couldn't get out of the way of him. I think the next round would've been painful to watch and Walters would've certainly dropped at least and probably stopped.
Whether or not he should've quit ........? I dunno, maybe not but in Walters' mind there was nothing he could do why take a pasting for the sake of it?
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What exactly is the reason that Walters should have been beaten to a pulp? Fan enjoyment? False sense of pride?
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Ruthless-RKO
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It wasn;t a beating, but he was clearly behind on 7 cards and knew he could not any of the remaining rounds. it would have been a 12-0 after 12 rounds to Loma. He never finished the fight til the bell, or try to survive, he just quit
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...like it or not, it's still the boxer's decision and has to be respected as such..
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tehd uches days hahaghaha
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Good question. Keeps career like this and there will be better days.Ricky_ wrote:What exactly is the reason that Walters should have been beaten to a pulp? Fan enjoyment? False sense of pride?
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Ruthless-RKO wrote:It wasn;t a beating, but he was clearly behind on 7 cards and knew he could not any of the remaining rounds. it would have been a 12-0 after 12 rounds to Loma. He never finished the fight til the bell, or try to survive, he just quit
He lost every round and the last round he took a beating. It was all downhill from there. Loma wouldve stopped him anyway.
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The IDIOTS in this thread sticking up for Walters should get their site access revoked. Walters didn't want to get embarrassed and that's the only reason why he NO MAS'd out of this fight. It had nothing to do with accumulation of punishment. It was a pillow fight until that last round where Loma started to land a few punches. Instead of rallying and gutting it out, Walters decided that he was above it.
Walters will never ever fight on a big stage again or make any kind of significant money. He's yellow and horrible example of a boxer. Sad night for the sport.
Walters will never ever fight on a big stage again or make any kind of significant money. He's yellow and horrible example of a boxer. Sad night for the sport.
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"Boxer placed in induced coma following courageous 12 round fight"
"Boxer retires on stool after being outclassed in 7"
I know which headline I'd prefer to see. If a boxer knows he is being beaten and has no way of getting back into the fight, why risk his health to go out on his sword? It's easy for us armchair fans to call him a quitter but he gets to go home and fight another day. Lomachenko was too good for him. Too often do we see a "brave" corner and/or boxer go back for that one round too many and not see the other side.
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"Boxer retires on stool after being outclassed in 7"
I know which headline I'd prefer to see. If a boxer knows he is being beaten and has no way of getting back into the fight, why risk his health to go out on his sword? It's easy for us armchair fans to call him a quitter but he gets to go home and fight another day. Lomachenko was too good for him. Too often do we see a "brave" corner and/or boxer go back for that one round too many and not see the other side.
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Deno1986 wrote:"Boxer placed in induced coma following courageous 12 round fight"
"Boxer retires on stool after being outclassed in 7"
I know which headline I'd prefer to see. If a boxer knows he is being beaten and has no way of getting back into the fight, why risk his health to go out on his sword? It's easy for us armchair fans to call him a quitter but he gets to go home and fight another day. Lomachenko was too good for him. Too often do we see a "brave" corner and/or boxer go back for that one round too many and not see the other side.
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I'm with you on balance. Not carrying on was probably the "smart" thing to do.
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In my book, respect's a two-way street.greg wrote:...like it or not, it's still the boxer's decision and has to be respected as such..
Walter's a punk-ass bozo.

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I would watch who can survive now against this Hi-Tech cyborg.
Lomachenko is not just a boxing artist, he is real killing machine.
Walters saved own health in prejudice of his reputation.
Lomachenko is not just a boxing artist, he is real killing machine.
Walters saved own health in prejudice of his reputation.
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Good answer/good question.............Keko wrote:Good question. Keeps career like this and there will be better days.Ricky_ wrote:What exactly is the reason that Walters should have been beaten to a pulp? Fan enjoyment? False sense of pride?
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ValMar wrote:Good answer/good question.............Keko wrote:Good question. Keeps career like this and there will be better days.Ricky_ wrote:What exactly is the reason that Walters should have been beaten to a pulp? Fan enjoyment? False sense of pride?
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Ian1973 wrote:Deno1986 wrote:"Boxer placed in induced coma following courageous 12 round fight"
"Boxer retires on stool after being outclassed in 7"
I know which headline I'd prefer to see. If a boxer knows he is being beaten and has no way of getting back into the fight, why risk his health to go out on his sword? It's easy for us armchair fans to call him a quitter but he gets to go home and fight another day. Lomachenko was too good for him. Too often do we see a "brave" corner and/or boxer go back for that one round too many and not see the other side.
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I'm with you on balance. Not carrying on was probably the "smart" thing to do.
I watched George Groves batter his opponent Gutknecht til the final bell 2 weks ago. The guys eye was closed and tank was empty. Him, his corner and the ref shamelessy ket it go on for no reason other than "final bell pride". The cost? Gutknecht collapsed after the fight and ended up in intensive care with a bleed on the brain.
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I agree that it has to be up to the fighter, and it did appear to me that Walters would be stopped by his corner or Loma by round 11. However, it needs to be pointed out that if fighters begin to do this it will change the entire sport. I am not saying whether the change is for better or worse but it will definitely involve less heart and more contests being glorified exhibitions.
I am running alongside the Loma bandwagon but I am not quite ready to jump on. Walters did quit early and he was coming off a year layoff and he had already demonstrated that his power was not transferring up the weight classes with him.
I am running alongside the Loma bandwagon but I am not quite ready to jump on. Walters did quit early and he was coming off a year layoff and he had already demonstrated that his power was not transferring up the weight classes with him.
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Quitting in boxing is a two edged sword.
Nobody wants to see boxers getting beat to death but if quitting every time you're behind becomes an acceptable option the sport would cease to exist in a short time.
Boxing NEEDS its warriors.
Not every boxer can be or should be that guy though.
There never has been and never will be honor in quitting but it is often the "smart" thing to do.
Not all refs are as incompetent as the one overseeing the Groves fight last week.
Walters didn't need to take more of a beating. All he had to do was go out for the next round, wait for Loma to get close to him, cover up, refuse to fight back and Weeks would have stopped the fight.
How is that any different than quitting between rounds?
I don't know but we've seen many, many boxers decide to cover up and wait for the ref to stop it and they don't get much flak for it.
Nobody wants to see boxers getting beat to death but if quitting every time you're behind becomes an acceptable option the sport would cease to exist in a short time.
Boxing NEEDS its warriors.
Not every boxer can be or should be that guy though.
There never has been and never will be honor in quitting but it is often the "smart" thing to do.
Not all refs are as incompetent as the one overseeing the Groves fight last week.
Walters didn't need to take more of a beating. All he had to do was go out for the next round, wait for Loma to get close to him, cover up, refuse to fight back and Weeks would have stopped the fight.
How is that any different than quitting between rounds?
I don't know but we've seen many, many boxers decide to cover up and wait for the ref to stop it and they don't get much flak for it.
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Impractical Poster
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I used to find myself criticizing fighters for quitting. As I grew older I realized how selfish I was being. Especially seeing the current state of Magomedov. We are not the ones in there taking punches. I'm sure Walters did everything he could up until that point and nothing was working on Lomachecnko. He was only going to get battered going down the stretch. It's Walters who has to live the rest of his life and provide for his family, not us.
So, for those bashing Walters, or any other fighter putting their life on the line for our entertainment....fornicate You!
So, for those bashing Walters, or any other fighter putting their life on the line for our entertainment....fornicate You!
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Perhaps, Walters was too drained, like Dawson against Ward.
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Impractical Poster wrote:I used to find myself criticizing fighters for quitting. As I grew older I realized how selfish I was being. Especially seeing the current state of Magomedov. We are not the ones in there taking punches. I'm sure Walters did everything he could up until that point and nothing was working on Lomachecnko. He was only going to get battered going down the stretch. It's Walters who has to live the rest of his life and provide for his family, not us.
So, for those bashing Walters, or any other fighter putting their life on the line for our entertainment....eff You!
This. It's like mma. Why not tap when there's no way out? Foolish pride in allowing the flow of blood to the brain be cut? Walters was overmatched.