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Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 12:55
by kbackup408
Probably the most complicated division currently with the whole Tyson Fury vacating situation, Lucas Browne drugs fiasco, Povetkin also testing positive I want to find out what people expect 2017 to bring in this division.

Do you think we will get any meaningful fights in 2017 or will there be more ducking and weaving. Ideally having one unified champion should be the goal regardless of if its Wilder, Parker, AJ or even Klit.

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 12:58
by Mimmy
Your not going to get a unified champ in 2017. Not a chance in hell. I think Anthony joshua might add one more belt to his collection thats all really.

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 13:01
by kbackup408
mimmy123 wrote:Your not going to get a unified champ in 2017. Not a chance in hell. I think Anthony joshua might add one more belt to his collection thats all really.
This depresses me pal because all these belts are screwing the division. AJ (IBF) Wilder (WBC) potentially Parker (WBO) lord knows who the WBA champ will be could be Briggs thats 4 different "CHAMPIONS"

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 13:08
by wesshaw1985
mimmy123 wrote:Your not going to get a unified champ in 2017. Not a chance in hell. I think Anthony joshua might add one more belt to his collection thats all really.
if all goes to plan AJ is due to fight Klit in March for the IBF and WBA Titles, if Parker wins the WBO Title I cant see it be too expensive to bring him over. Wilder might go for a huge paybay next summer at Wembley.
Could have 3 of the 4 titles unified by the end of 2017...

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 13:10
by Mimmy
wesshaw1985 wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:Your not going to get a unified champ in 2017. Not a chance in hell. I think Anthony joshua might add one more belt to his collection thats all really.
if all goes to plan AJ is due to fight Klit in March for the IBF and WBA Titles, if Parker wins the WBO Title I cant see it be too expensive to bring him over. Wilder might go for a huge paybay next summer at Wembley.
Could have 3 of the 4 titles unified by the end of 2017...
Which WBA titles though

Regular
Silver
Bronze
Inter this
inter that
Junior
European........................

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 13:11
by wesshaw1985
mimmy123 wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:Your not going to get a unified champ in 2017. Not a chance in hell. I think Anthony joshua might add one more belt to his collection thats all really.
if all goes to plan AJ is due to fight Klit in March for the IBF and WBA Titles, if Parker wins the WBO Title I cant see it be too expensive to bring him over. Wilder might go for a huge paybay next summer at Wembley.
Could have 3 of the 4 titles unified by the end of 2017...
Which WBA titles though

Regular
Silver
Bronze
Inter this
inter that
Junior
European........................
I see what you did there.
But with Klit I would imagine it will be the Super Title...

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 13:40
by BitPlayer
I think it could be years before there is an undisputed No.1, especially if Fury retires. Wlad clearly will have to soon, he keeps getting injured.

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 13:45
by kbackup408
BitPlayer wrote:I think it could be years before there is an undisputed No.1, especially if Fury retires. Wlad clearly will have to soon, he keeps getting injured.
Honestly mate don't think Fury is coming back if his heart ain't in it fair play for him to retire happily.

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 13:46
by kbackup408
mimmy123 wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:Your not going to get a unified champ in 2017. Not a chance in hell. I think Anthony joshua might add one more belt to his collection thats all really.
if all goes to plan AJ is due to fight Klit in March for the IBF and WBA Titles, if Parker wins the WBO Title I cant see it be too expensive to bring him over. Wilder might go for a huge paybay next summer at Wembley.
Could have 3 of the 4 titles unified by the end of 2017...
Which WBA titles though

Regular
Silver
Bronze
Inter this
inter that
Junior
European........................
LOL, so many belts its hard to keep track these belts are becoming worthless !

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 13:48
by BitPlayer
kbackup408 wrote:
BitPlayer wrote:I think it could be years before there is an undisputed No.1, especially if Fury retires. Wlad clearly will have to soon, he keeps getting injured.
Honestly mate don't think Fury is coming back if his heart ain't in it fair play for him to retire happily.
And even if he does eventually, if it's after years of not training he won't be the same fighter.

It'll be a shame if he does go down as one of boxing's what ifs, but his wellfare matters infinitely more.

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 13:52
by kbackup408
BitPlayer wrote:
kbackup408 wrote:
BitPlayer wrote:I think it could be years before there is an undisputed No.1, especially if Fury retires. Wlad clearly will have to soon, he keeps getting injured.
Honestly mate don't think Fury is coming back if his heart ain't in it fair play for him to retire happily.
And even if he does eventually, if it's after years of not training he won't be the same fighter.

It'll be a shame if he does go down as one of boxing's what ifs, but his wellfare matters infinitely more.
I agree pal I remember how happy I was last November watching him win those titles it felt like this division is alive again.

I have a feeling though he might start training early next year could possibly get a German license and box again, who knows ?!

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 14:04
by samwbr
Fury will be back. If Joshua keeps winning they can both earn the biggest purse in British boxing history.

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 14:37
by kbackup408
samwbr wrote:Fury will be back. If Joshua keeps winning they can both earn the biggest purse in British boxing history.
Let's hope so mate more likely it will be Hughie than Tyson

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 14:57
by Fitzy901
I can see Haye v Parker and Wlad v Joshua happening next year.

I would like to see Wilder box Pulev or the winner if Whyte Chisora.

I can see any unification bouts happening and I couldn't give a toss about the WBA regular.

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 15:01
by samwbr
kbackup408 wrote:
samwbr wrote:Fury will be back. If Joshua keeps winning they can both earn the biggest purse in British boxing history.
Let's hope so mate more likely it will be Hughie than Tyson
Will Tyson turn down that opportunity? He won't have to fight anyone else to make it happen. It's the biggest fight in the sport potentially.

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 15:03
by Mimmy
If Tyson Fury returns next year can he walk into a title shot without any warm up being an ex champion who vacated his titles?

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 15:21
by BitPlayer
mimmy123 wrote:If Tyson Fury returns next year can he walk into a title shot without any warm up being an ex champion who vacated his titles?
For the WBO title atleast.

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 15:47
by samwbr
He's the man who beat the man and he will deservedly get a shot when he decides to come back.

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 03:06
by Andrew
mimmy123 wrote:Your not going to get a unified champ in 2017. Not a chance in hell. I think Anthony joshua might add one more belt to his collection thats all really.
Not trying to be a smartarse but if AJ gets another belt then he would be unified champ.

To me AJ isn't a legit world champion anyway considering what Hearn and Duva did to get fury stripped

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 03:09
by Andrew
People talk about fury coming back but surely it has to be as an undercard fighter

Yeah that may sound a bit daft lineal champ etc etc. But who the hell will want to buy a ticket after the Wlad rematch farce. ( I had tickets for July 9th refunded as soon as he went on the pi55 in France )

People can bring out Haye but he was already packing in arenas before that Fury wasn't. He hasn't headlined his own arena show yet. ( London Excel was BJS v eubank which drew)

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 05:45
by PredatorHayds
I can see Haye retiring in the sunset after Bellew.
He came for a big payday and he's got it.

Joshua/Parker could be next years big one for me. Back end of the year.

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 05:49
by davie
A year ago I looked at the 2016 heavyweight landscape and thought, with so much talent and so many potential match ups, they can't fail to deliver.

They failed.

I wouldn't be surprised if the big guys disappoint once again

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 06:50
by nitro5912
Naandrew wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:Your not going to get a unified champ in 2017. Not a chance in hell. I think Anthony joshua might add one more belt to his collection thats all really.
Not trying to be a smartarse but if AJ gets another belt then he would be unified champ.

To me AJ isn't a legit world champion anyway considering what Hearn and Duva did to get fury stripped
I get duva, it was his fighter in the mandatory slot for the IBF I believe but what did hearn do to get fury stripped of the IBF.

Only person really to blame for that is the fury management team for not checking with the IBF or paying to get the mandatory pushed back. That may have forced fury into having the rematch sooner

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 13:44
by TheGman
wesshaw1985 wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:Your not going to get a unified champ in 2017. Not a chance in hell. I think Anthony joshua might add one more belt to his collection thats all really.
if all goes to plan AJ is due to fight Klit in March for the IBF and WBA Titles, if Parker wins the WBO Title I cant see it be too expensive to bring him over. Wilder might go for a huge paybay next summer at Wembley.
Could have 3 of the 4 titles unified by the end of 2017...
AJ vs Wilder will be a Vegas fight ;)

Re: Heavyweight Landscape 2017

Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 13:48
by wesshaw1985
thechump wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:Your not going to get a unified champ in 2017. Not a chance in hell. I think Anthony joshua might add one more belt to his collection thats all really.
if all goes to plan AJ is due to fight Klit in March for the IBF and WBA Titles, if Parker wins the WBO Title I cant see it be too expensive to bring him over. Wilder might go for a huge paybay next summer at Wembley.
Could have 3 of the 4 titles unified by the end of 2017...
AJ vs Wilder will be a Vegas fight ;)
Does America hold the money in a HW unification between AJ and Wilder or the UK?
America, with the right personality, is the more lucrative country but does Wilder touch that many people in the US?