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Everyone has their own opinions when it comes to controversial things like this; some say it was fixed, some say that he's a coward and it brings shame on the sport.

There was talk of discontent before the fight was signed regarding the purse share Walters was due to get paid.

Lomachenko tweeted at Walters that he'd give him an extra $300k out of his own purse if Walters won.

After completing half the fight and not winning a single round, it seems apparent that quitting was the result of him not getting paid enough for the beating he was taking - knowing that the money incentive of winning the fight was no longer within his grasp.

BonyTellew wrote:Everyone has their own opinions when it comes to controversial things like this; some say it was fixed, some say that he's a coward and it brings shame on the sport.

There was talk of discontent before the fight was signed regarding the purse share Walters was due to get paid.

Lomachenko tweeted at Walters that he'd give him an extra $300k out of his own purse if Walters won.

After completing half the fight and not winning a single round, it seems apparent that quitting was the result of him not getting paid enough for the beating he was taking - knowing that the money incentive of winning the fight was no longer within his grasp.

Honestly mate if this is the case I am very disappointed in Walters. There are a few things in boxing you don't do and thats quitting to prove a point to the promoter. Whilst watching the bout I did feel he hurt his hand but didn't think it was match ending !

BonyTellew wrote:Everyone has their own opinions when it comes to controversial things like this; some say it was fixed, some say that he's a coward and it brings shame on the sport.

There was talk of discontent before the fight was signed regarding the purse share Walters was due to get paid.

Lomachenko tweeted at Walters that he'd give him an extra $300k out of his own purse if Walters won.

After completing half the fight and not winning a single round, it seems apparent that quitting was the result of him not getting paid enough for the beating he was taking - knowing that the money incentive of winning the fight was no longer within his grasp.

This bizarre claim compelled me to spontaneously spit my beer out with laughter.

BonyTellew wrote:Everyone has their own opinions when it comes to controversial things like this; some say it was fixed, some say that he's a coward and it brings shame on the sport.

There was talk of discontent before the fight was signed regarding the purse share Walters was due to get paid.

Lomachenko tweeted at Walters that he'd give him an extra $300k out of his own purse if Walters won.

After completing half the fight and not winning a single round, it seems apparent that quitting was the result of him not getting paid enough for the beating he was taking - knowing that the money incentive of winning the fight was no longer within his grasp.

That offer was from the initial negotiating when Walters wouldn't fight.

He decided to quit and probably sacrifice his chance to get this sort of money again because he didn't get enough money in the first place? Seems sort of counter productive.

Bob rewarded him quite well I'm sure

It was not quite about the money in my opinion. But his frustration with how Bob treated him has played the part in his decision to quit. He said himself as much, if YOU guys kept me active I would have had my best chance, otherwise why should I risk my health. He was forced to take this fight so he gave his minimum effort.

As much as I understand his frustration he did shoot himself in the foot here. He will soon discover that he is not getting any dates at all. This is a sabotage and THEY don't forgive sabotage easily. Not a smart play, this is not the way you fight the powers that be.

He quit because he was getting embarrassed. Fought with a sh*t strategy from the start.

They mentioned during the fight that he was getting $600k (I think).

Not sure what his highest previous purse was but I bet it wasn't over $200k.

His reported purse was 300k

Rafael tweeted that his contract says $300k, but that he was guaranteed $550k

BonyTellew wrote:Everyone has their own opinions when it comes to controversial things like this; some say it was fixed, some say that he's a coward and it brings shame on the sport.

There was talk of discontent before the fight was signed regarding the purse share Walters was due to get paid.

Lomachenko tweeted at Walters that he'd give him an extra $300k out of his own purse if Walters won.

After completing half the fight and not winning a single round, it seems apparent that quitting was the result of him not getting paid enough for the beating he was taking - knowing that the money incentive of winning the fight was no longer within his grasp.

It's like Jesus Chavez quitting against Mayweather.. No reason to pull him out except that he was taking more punishment than he wanted to.. Chavez certainly wasn't swollen for busted up -- and neither was Walters.. He took some sharp punches in the previous round that hurt him -- and at the end of the round Lomachenko waved goodbye to him.. He wasn't badly beaten up.. He didn't look nearly as bad as Ward last week, who had a couple of really bad rounds early in the fight.

MANY fighters have a year or more off because they didn't get one or another fight signed or fought.. That's a lame excuse.. This was the biggest fight of Walters' career.. He had more than 3 times as many pro fights as Lomachenko and he was undefeated.. You try a lot harder and you make adjustments like Ward did.. and you go until you're really beaten.. It's easy when you're beating up all your opponents and knocking almost all of them out -- smashing Donaire and Darchinyan like they're nothing.. Not every fight is going to be that easy, and when you make more money in one night than most people make in 3 years it's probably going to be a tougher fight than any you've had to date.

Duran got more fights and big fights after he quit.. But he was the P4P top fighter in the world when he quit.. He could afford to screw up once.

I suppose if we are floating theories about why Walters pulled at that moment and it involved frustration with the $$, then maybe someone made a bet on ko 7 and he made it come true.

I think that he felt Loma's shots that were coming from unseen angles and decided that he was outclassed. That simple. Didn't he get married and have a kid lately (or was that Loma)?

Maybe we should start a thread "Walters Quit Because He Didn't Get Laid Enough."

Tanzio wrote:I suppose if we are floating theories about why Walters pulled at that moment and it involved frustration with the $$, then maybe someone made a bet on ko 7 and he made it come true.

I think that he felt Loma's shots that were coming from unseen angles and decided that he was outclassed. That simple. Didn't he get married and have a kid lately (or was that Loma)?

Maybe we should start a thread "Walters Quit Because He Didn't Get Laid Enough."

Its not that simple. Quitting is a cardinal sin in boxing, its against a spirit of the sport. Everyone who is involved in it knows that. Been outboxed is not a good enough reason to blatantly quit when you can clearly still go on. You only quit when you cant go on unless...

Tarkus wrote:

Tanzio wrote:I suppose if we are floating theories about why Walters pulled at that moment and it involved frustration with the $$, then maybe someone made a bet on ko 7 and he made it come true.

I think that he felt Loma's shots that were coming from unseen angles and decided that he was outclassed. That simple. Didn't he get married and have a kid lately (or was that Loma)?

Maybe we should start a thread "Walters Quit Because He Didn't Get Laid Enough."

Its not that simple. Quitting is a cardinal sin in boxing, its against a spirit of the sport. Everyone who is involved in it knows that. Been outboxed is not a good enough reason to blatantly quit when you can clearly still go on. You only quit when you cant go on unless...

. . . the fight was supposed to end in 7, and if it does I get my six figure, tax free bonus.

Tanzio wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

Tanzio wrote:I suppose if we are floating theories about why Walters pulled at that moment and it involved frustration with the $$, then maybe someone made a bet on ko 7 and he made it come true.

I think that he felt Loma's shots that were coming from unseen angles and decided that he was outclassed. That simple. Didn't he get married and have a kid lately (or was that Loma)?

Maybe we should start a thread "Walters Quit Because He Didn't Get Laid Enough."

Its not that simple. Quitting is a cardinal sin in boxing, its against a spirit of the sport. Everyone who is involved in it knows that. Been outboxed is not a good enough reason to blatantly quit when you can clearly still go on. You only quit when you cant go on unless...

. . . the fight was supposed to end in 7, and if it does I get my six figure, tax free bonus.

Thats a pure speculation with zero evidence to support it. And its unlikely from a logical stand point as winning the fight would have payed more money in the long run then throwing the fight. Theory I propose above is based on evidence and common sense.

..all conspiracy theories aside, he quit because he couldn't take heat any more, period...

Tarkus wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Tarkus wrote: Its not that simple. Quitting is a cardinal sin in boxing, its against a spirit of the sport. Everyone who is involved in it knows that. Been outboxed is not a good enough reason to blatantly quit when you can clearly still go on. You only quit when you cant go on unless...

. . . the fight was supposed to end in 7, and if it does I get my six figure, tax free bonus.

Thats a pure speculation with zero evidence to support it. And its unlikely from a logical stand point as winning the fight would have payed more money in the long run then throwing the fight. Theory I propose above is based on evidence and common sense.

No more speculation than yours.

Walters was getting stung by punches that he could not see coming. He quit. End of . . .

Tanzio wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

Tanzio wrote: . . . the fight was supposed to end in 7, and if it does I get my six figure, tax free bonus.

Thats a pure speculation with zero evidence to support it. And its unlikely from a logical stand point as winning the fight would have payed more money in the long run then throwing the fight. Theory I propose above is based on evidence and common sense.

No more speculation than yours.

Walters was getting stung by punches that he could not see coming. He quit. End of . . .

What I said is that your suggestion of Walters throwing a fight for money is purely speculative and can not be taken seriously.

The argument that he quit because he was getting hit from angles is valid. Yes he might indeed be a pussy with no heart. But I dont think so. This is a man who stood in exchanges with Donaire, a monster puncher and did not even flinch, would not step backwards. He would not quite because he was loosing and had one hurtful round.

Walters knew he couldn't win, or believed he couldn't, he was totally outclasses, he knew he was going to get beat down, but he's done his reputation and career a lot of harm quitting like that.

I'm pretty sure his corner were trying to stop him quitting, they looked very unhappy and one of his cornermen seemed to be pulling him back and remonstrating with him about his decision and trying to talk him out of it.

It was a world title fight, and he was an unbeaten fighter, capitulating like that is a bad sign, I wonder if he felt weak at the weight. He fought like he didn't feel particularly strong.

He would have lost, but you'd have thought he'd have gone for broke at least. Poor.

greg wrote:..all conspiracy theories aside, he quit because he couldn't take heat any more, period...

Must be very fragile then. Not that he was busted up, badly hurt or injured. Perhaps he should switch to butcher business or logging where he can make a better use of his axe and wont get hit in the face.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Walters knew he couldn't win, or believed he couldn't, he was totally outclasses, he knew he was going to get beat down, but he's done his reputation and career a lot of harm quitting like that.

I'm pretty sure his corner were trying to stop him quitting, they looked very unhappy and one of his cornermen seemed to be pulling him back and remonstrating with him about his decision and trying to talk him out of it.

It was a world title fight, and he was an unbeaten fighter, capitulating like that is a bad sign, I wonder if he felt weak at the weight. He fought like he didn't feel particularly strong.

He would have lost, but you'd have thought he'd have gone for broke at least. Poor.

Thats exactly how it looked. Any boxing man would tell you that this was not a circumstance where you should quit.

Walters was never down 7-0 against Donaire

crusader wrote:Walters was never down 7-0 against Donaire

donaire isn't a monster puncher either. Especially for a jr lightweight.

crusader wrote:Walters was never down 7-0 against Donaire

He didn't want to be humiliated against Lomachenko, and that's where it was headed, rapidly.