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British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 20:00
by Horse
1. (1.) Tyson Fury
2. (2.) Carl Frampton
3. (3.) James DeGale
4. (4.) Kell Brook
5. (7.) Jamie McDonnell
6. (5.) Amir Khan
7. (6.) Lee Selby
8. (8.) George Groves
9. (9.) Tony Bellew
10. (11.) Terry Flanagan

11. (10.) Billy Joe Saunders
12. (12.) Scott Quigg
13. (13.) Ricky Burns
14. (14.) Anthony Crolla
15. (15.) Nathan Cleverly
16. (16.) Callum Smith
17. (18.) Martin Murray
18. (17.) Lee Haskins
19. (19.) Luke Campbell
20. (20.) Chris Eubank Jr.

21. (21.) Anthony Joshua
22. (22.) Andy Lee (Irish)
23. (23.) Stuart Hall
24. (RE.) Stephen Smith
25. (29.) Bradley Skeete
26. (24.) Sam Eggington
27. (25.) Liam Walsh
28. (26.) Ryan Burnett
29. (27.) Josh Warrington
30. (28.) Tyrone Nurse

Out - (30.) Liam Williams

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 20:00
by Horse
Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 20:02
by wesshaw1985
Mcdonnell has moved up 2 places after losing to Solis?

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 20:03
by kbackup408
Horse wrote:Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.
Fury mate love the lad but if he isn't active can't have him on the list

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 30 Nov 2016, 20:28
by Boxerbeetle
Considering his recent lacklustre performances, Flanagan is too high for me.

I also think Liam Williams should be in the top 30 - he's better P4P than at least Nurse & Burnett imo.

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 03:06
by Andrew
Fury hasn't fought for a year. Hasn't got a fight scheduled and actually doesn't have a license to fight.

In fact he probably won't fight again so he shouldn't be in the list. ( He's out of boxrec rankings now )

Other than that I'd put Warrington up a few

And possibly Liam Williams over Tyrone nurse ( though to be honest not that much between them)

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 04:47
by Deno1986
How does Stephen Smith get back in and jump forward 6 places after losing a fight?

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 04:52
by MarkMcBurney
Can't see how McDonnell absolutely mugging Solis on the cards justified him moving up two spaces. Martin Murray also still above current world champions...

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 05:25
by Horse
wesshaw1985 wrote:Mcdonnell has moved up 2 places after losing to Solis?
He won.

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 05:26
by Horse
kbackup408 wrote:Fury mate love the lad but if he isn't active can't have him on the list
I don't have a 12 months inactivity rule.

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 05:40
by Horse
Boxerbeetle wrote:Considering his recent lacklustre performances, Flanagan is too high for me.

I also think Liam Williams should be in the top 30 - he's better P4P than at least Nurse & Burnett imo.
At least Flanagan has been active. Saunders has essentially only had one fight in the last 2 years.

Williams would have stayed in the rankings if he had fought anyone decent last month, but he didn't. He can re-enter the rankings when he gets his next decent win.

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 05:41
by DannyMCR
Khan :o

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 06:28
by afcmarshall
Horse wrote:
kbackup408 wrote:Fury mate love the lad but if he isn't active can't have him on the list
I don't have a 12 months inactivity rule.
How long will you keep him in for then 2,3,4 years?

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 07:17
by davie
Haye out of the rankings

When he utterly mauls no9, does he go straight into top 10 and Bellew on the scrapheap?

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 07:48
by Horse
Naandrew wrote:Fury hasn't fought for a year. Hasn't got a fight scheduled and actually doesn't have a license to fight.

In fact he probably won't fight again so he shouldn't be in the list. ( He's out of boxrec rankings now )
You're only guessing that he won't fight again.

Fury will stay on the list for now and we'll see how things progress next year.
Naandrew wrote:Other than that I'd put Warrington up a few

And possibly Liam Williams over Tyrone nurse ( though to be honest not that much between them)
Warrington and Williams could be higher, but the bottom 10 of the list is very competitive at the moment, so good fighters are going to drop out if they don't do anything for a few months.

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 07:49
by Horse
Deno1986 wrote:How does Stephen Smith get back in and jump forward 6 places after losing a fight?
Because I thought that he did very well.

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 07:57
by Horse
MarkMcBurney wrote:Can't see how McDonnell absolutely mugging Solis on the cards justified him moving up two spaces. Martin Murray also still above current world champions...
The McDonnell fight was close and people are divided about what the proper result should have been. I scored it narrowly for McDonnell, so for me it was a good win.

Haskins almost lost his title to Hall a couple of months ago and Joshua is possibly the least credible reigning world champion on earth. Murray currently deserves to be above both of them. If Haskins successfully defends his title this month, then he will overtake Murray again.

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 08:10
by Ricky_
Liam Smith should be somewhere between 15-30 imo.

He was world champion, and even though he was out his league vs Canelo he showed he's operating at a pretty good level, certainly put on a better showing than Khan. Seems obvious that Smith is a better fighter than the likes of Skeete.

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 08:20
by Killer Blow
Horse wrote:
MarkMcBurney wrote:Can't see how McDonnell absolutely mugging Solis on the cards justified him moving up two spaces. Martin Murray also still above current world champions...
The McDonnell fight was close and people are divided about what the proper result should have been. I scored it narrowly for McDonnell, so for me it was a good win.

Haskins almost lost his title to Hall a couple of months ago and Joshua is possibly the least credible reigning world champion on earth. Murray currently deserves to be above both of them. If Haskins successfully defends his title this month, then he will overtake Murray again.
Joshua is more credible than Mcdonnel, a guy that's actually lost his title twice.

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 08:23
by Tangerine
Mcdonnell won the fight and the opponent was a better quality than we all gave him credit for,theres an argument that win added to his form over last 2 years compared should take him above khan and brook at this moment.

Stephen Smith should be in the top 30 but theres no reason why he should jump in 6 places straight away coming off the back of two losses and over the likes of walsh who is arguably a better fighter at the weight.

Burnett should be out.Tyrone Nurse and Liam Williams should both be in with Nurse ahead.Andy Lee is hanging around like a bad smell hes doing nothing id think of even having skeete ahead of him.

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 11:22
by BigDoofus
Fury is not a boxer any more.

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 13:03
by Horse
afcmarshall wrote:How long will you keep him in for then 2,3,4 years?
Indefinitely.

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 13:05
by Horse
davie wrote:Haye out of the rankings
You think Haye should be in the rankings?
davie wrote:When he utterly mauls no9, does he go straight into top 10 and Bellew on the scrapheap?
No.

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 14:25
by davie
Horse wrote:
davie wrote:Haye out of the rankings
You think Haye should be in the rankings?
davie wrote:When he utterly mauls no9, does he go straight into top 10 and Bellew on the scrapheap?
No.
Yes, he's better than easily more than half of that list

Re: British Top 30 P4P December 2016

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 14:26
by Killer Blow
Horse wrote:
afcmarshall wrote:How long will you keep him in for then 2,3,4 years?
Indefinitely.
Laughable.