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I am wondering if it just about saving money or they are not sure about the outcome.

Why would Lebedev even be able to make that decision? He should be automatically stripped of it if he doesn't intend to defend it.

gilgamesh wrote:Why would Lebedev even be able to make that decision? He should be automatically stripped of it if he doesn't intend to defend it.

Because Gassiev is only the mandatory to Lebedev's IBF belt. Lebedev doesn't even have to put the WBA belt on the line technically.

lefty wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Why would Lebedev even be able to make that decision? He should be automatically stripped of it if he doesn't intend to defend it.

Because Gassiev is only the mandatory to Lebedev's IBF belt. Lebedev doesn't even have to put the WBA belt on the line technically.

Hope he gets knocked out. F*ck him. I respected Lebedev up to now.

It doesn't sound like Lebedev. Maybe something bad happened in the camp.

Maybe promoter isn't prepared to cough-up WBA sanction fee, therefore applied for special permit, which is allowed.. providing defence is not overdue. However if he does his balls......WBA title will be history.

AntonS wrote:Maybe promoter isn't prepared to cough-up WBA sanction fee, therefore applied for special permit, which is allowed.. providing defence is not overdue. However if he does his balls......WBA title will be history.

I don't blame any champion for trying to save money on those crooked sanctioning fees

lefty wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Why would Lebedev even be able to make that decision? He should be automatically stripped of it if he doesn't intend to defend it.

Because Gassiev is only the mandatory to Lebedev's IBF belt. Lebedev doesn't even have to put the WBA belt on the line technically.

So he can get knocked out in 30 second's and keep being called cruiserweight champion of the world with his WBA belt

AntonS wrote:Maybe promoter isn't prepared to cough-up WBA sanction fee, therefore applied for special permit, which is allowed.. providing defence is not overdue. However if he does his balls......WBA title will be history.

So he will loss the WBA strap even though its not on the line so if its not on the line why does he loss it its confusing to say the least

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

AntonS wrote:Maybe promoter isn't prepared to cough-up WBA sanction fee, therefore applied for special permit, which is allowed.. providing defence is not overdue. However if he does his balls......WBA title will be history.

So he will loss the WBA strap even though its not on the line so if its not on the line why does he loss it its confusing to say the least

Title is always on the line, whether sanctioned defence or not.

lefty wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Why would Lebedev even be able to make that decision? He should be automatically stripped of it if he doesn't intend to defend it.

Because Gassiev is only the mandatory to Lebedev's IBF belt. Lebedev doesn't even have to put the WBA belt on the line technically.

Technically its always on the line............ AntonS just updated me so he [Lebedev] should milk it for all he can and just defend the WBA belt also even with the sanctioning fee it will put a bigger number on his bank balance.

That would be OK if WBA etc had set sanction fee. They take a decent slice out of overall purse.......the bigger the purse, the bigger sanction fee

Its a pity every boxer,promoter,journalist and fan didn't just boycott the WBA like they never existed,their pure scum

AntonS wrote:That would be OK if WBA etc had set sanction fee. They take a decent slice out of overall purse.......the bigger the purse, the bigger sanction fee

On top of that, there's their respective junket boys (ref & judges), their airfare, accommodation, meals etc etc and naturally all unimportant purse

Spark him Murat.

Killer Blow wrote:Spark him Murat.

IMO, If Murat did so, on legal side of things, he could claim WBA title if he's prepared to cough-up its sanction fee. However, given the system in place......What would be the sanction fee?

What if Gassiev pays the sanctioning fee? Will it be on the line for him?

It's like WBA never sanctioned the GGG-Brook fight, but had GGG lost, the title would have been vacant..

Or when Pulev was mandatory for Wlad'/ IBF.. he only paid sanctioning fees for the IBF so only the IBF was on the line for him. However, had Wlad lost im not sure if he would have been stripped of his other titles.

Ruthless-RKO wrote:What if Gassiev pays the sanctioning fee? Will it be on the line for him?

It's like WBA never sanctioned the GGG-Brook fight, but had GGG lost, the title would have been vacant..

Or when Pulev was mandatory for Wlad'/ IBF.. he only paid sanctioning fees for the IBF so only the IBF was on the line for him. However, had Wlad lost im not sure if he would have been stripped of his other titles.

Wlad would be stripped because all the titles were on the line for him, only IBF title was for Pulev.

As for Lebedev - Gassiev situation, it doesn't look good at all. Especially for Lebedev. If his team has so little confidence in him, it might affect his performance too. Strange for me, because while I think Gassiev has serious size advantage and (probably) hits slightly harder, Lebedev, in my opinion, is clearly more skilled. Not to mention he has way more experience.

Boxing Writer wrote:

Ruthless-RKO wrote:What if Gassiev pays the sanctioning fee? Will it be on the line for him?

It's like WBA never sanctioned the GGG-Brook fight, but had GGG lost, the title would have been vacant..

Or when Pulev was mandatory for Wlad'/ IBF.. he only paid sanctioning fees for the IBF so only the IBF was on the line for him. However, had Wlad lost im not sure if he would have been stripped of his other titles.

Wlad would be stripped because all the titles were on the line for him, only IBF title was for Pulev.

As for Lebedev - Gassiev situation, it doesn't look good at all. Especially for Lebedev. If his team has so little confidence in him, it might affect his performance too. Strange for me, because while I think Gassiev has serious size advantage and (probably) hits slightly harder, Lebedev, in my opinion, is clearly more skilled. Not to mention he has way more experience.

Yep, and Gassiev will come more confident seeing the uncertainty in the other camp.

I think that it is a fine idea for all boxers to ignore the alphabet sanctioning fees. I'm sure that I am being naive here, since I could not care less about the alphabets' structures. But really, who cares about all this belt nonsense? Whoever wins gets the W over their opponent and their share of the purse.

It might be an avenue back to one legit champion. Afterall, why should 3G be chasing the MW belts? It makes absolutely no sense. 3G is the undisputed king of the MW division. All others are pretenders. Everyone knows it including the skirts with the other belts.

GingerHead with his (paraphrasing), "I'm Mexican and we don't fvck around" nonsense just prior to "you mean this belt Mr. 3G? Here, take it. It doesn't go with my ginger curl."

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

lefty wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Why would Lebedev even be able to make that decision? He should be automatically stripped of it if he doesn't intend to defend it.

Because Gassiev is only the mandatory to Lebedev's IBF belt. Lebedev doesn't even have to put the WBA belt on the line technically.

So he can get knocked out in 30 second's and keep being called cruiserweight champion of the world with his WBA belt

Yes. He can hold an alphabet title. If Ricky Burns can still be a "world champion" then I don't see why Lebedev can't hold a meaningless alphabet trinket.

lefty wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

lefty wrote: Because Gassiev is only the mandatory to Lebedev's IBF belt. Lebedev doesn't even have to put the WBA belt on the line technically.

So he can get knocked out in 30 second's and keep being called cruiserweight champion of the world with his WBA belt

Yes. He can hold an alphabet title. If Ricky Burns can still be a "world champion" then I don't see why Lebedev can't hold a meaningless alphabet trinket.

It is WBA belt we are talking about. Even C level fighter like Shumenov has one.

It looks like WBA crooks approved Lebedev's petition.

http://www.BS.com/lebedev-gass ... er--111330