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Spence doesn't stand a chance fighting in London....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGqgd99O1JY.

He stands a great chance of making bank though, and if he can stop Brook he would become the 3G of welter and he would likely have to move up to get fights. I hope this fight happens because whoever comes out the other side jumps deep into top 10 P4P discussions. Brook is right at the door. With a W over Spence he breaks in. Same goes the other way for me.

Anything close and Spence loses on the cards, he has to get a stoppage. No way Brook loses at home, they'd never let that happen. Still think Errol is better should be a good fight.

SFW wrote:Anything close and Spence loses on the cards, he has to get a stoppage. No way Brook loses at home, they'd never let that happen. Still think Errol is better should be a good fight.

If he does to Brook what Hitman Jr. did to Burns he will get the nod. Very unlikely though.

Spence will stop him. Can't wait to see the odds on this one.

jockpunk wrote:Spence will stop him. Can't wait to see the odds on this one.

I'm not so certain of that, but I do agree with those who think that Spence must ktfo Brook to win. I certainly would not rule out Brook by KO.

First of all, Spence does not need a stoppage win. Great Britain is a major player in the boxing game, and fighters routinely get a fair shake over there. Fighting in Great Britain is not like fighting in Germany.

Secondly, I favor Spence in this fight for two reasons. One, I think he's a better boxer than Brook, and two, he's the bigger fighter. Spence has a career beyond the Welterweight division and in years down the line, will most likely finish his career at middleweight.

bnovelist wrote:Spence doesn't stand a chance fighting in London....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGqgd99O1JY.

Why not?

Spence Jr is made out to be the second coming of Sugar Ray Robinson, Sam Langford, Moses & Jesus all rolled into one, so if he is that good, it doesn't matter where in the world the contest is staged.

Tanzio wrote:He stands a great chance of making bank though, and if he can stop Brook he would become the 3G of welter and he would likely have to move up to get fights. I hope this fight happens because whoever comes out the other side jumps deep into top 10 P4P discussions. Brook is right at the door. With a W over Spence he breaks in. Same goes the other way for me.

haven't seen enough of spence to say who will win but what I can tell you is that neither of them is knocking at the p4p door and how you can think that is beyond me

I am definitely rooting fot Brook in this fight. Spence is very good, but i think he is heavily overrated by people here.

If Brook doesnt leave too much on the scales then it will be a competetive fight, regardless of who comes out on top, but I'm really surprised Brook wants to continue to campaign at 147. I dont see him making the weight comfortably these days. He was tight at the weight pre Golovkin. Even though he didnt really bulk up or add excessive muscle for Golovkin, I still think he has outgrown welter now. Really hope whoever wins we dont see a noticeably weakened Brook and a 15 page thread/ argument about whether or not Brook was dead at the weight with people peddaling their agenda from page one!

I'll believe it when I see it.

Cent0089 wrote:I am definitely rooting fot Brook in this fight. Spence is very good, but i think he is heavily overrated by people here.

I agree. For people to be so certain that he is going to ktfo Brook when 3G did not ktfo Brook is the definition of speculation. If he does actually ktfo Brook, then those people will have something to base their over the top expectations on.

Also, in a previous post I stated that Spence cannot win without a ktfo. That is not accurate. Spence is very unlikely to get the decision without a stoppage, but (as I stated earlier) if he dominates the way Hitman Jr. dominated Burns he will get the nod. I find that kind of domination throughout the fight either way to be very unlikely, although there is a decent possibility of a stoppage either way.

Tanzio wrote:

Cent0089 wrote:I am definitely rooting fot Brook in this fight. Spence is very good, but i think he is heavily overrated by people here.

I agree. For people to be so certain that he is going to ktfo Brook when 3G did not ktfo Brook is the definition of speculation. If he does actually ktfo Brook, then those people will have something to base their over the top expectations on.

Also, in a previous post I stated that Spence cannot win without a ktfo. That is not accurate. Spence is very unlikely to get the decision without a stoppage, but (as I stated earlier) if he dominates the way Hitman Jr. dominated Burns he will get the nod. I find that kind of domination throughout the fight either way to be very unlikely, although there is a decent possibility of a stoppage either way.

Had Golovkin Vs Brook gone further, I have no doubt he would have 'ktfo' Brook

CheckHook wrote:If Brook doesnt leave too much on the scales then it will be a competetive fight, regardless of who comes out on top, but I'm really surprised Brook wants to continue to campaign at 147. I dont see him making the weight comfortably these days. He was tight at the weight pre Golovkin. Even though he didnt really bulk up or add excessive muscle for Golovkin, I still think he has outgrown welter now. Really hope whoever wins we dont see a noticeably weakened Brook and a 15 page thread/ argument about whether or not Brook was dead at the weight with people peddaling their agenda from page one!

If he actually continues to campaign at 147 I will be very surprised, as I have mentioned on here more than once. I think that is a significant risk.

DannyMCR wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Cent0089 wrote:I am definitely rooting fot Brook in this fight. Spence is very good, but i think he is heavily overrated by people here.

I agree. For people to be so certain that he is going to ktfo Brook when 3G did not ktfo Brook is the definition of speculation. If he does actually ktfo Brook, then those people will have something to base their over the top expectations on.

Also, in a previous post I stated that Spence cannot win without a ktfo. That is not accurate. Spence is very unlikely to get the decision without a stoppage, but (as I stated earlier) if he dominates the way Hitman Jr. dominated Burns he will get the nod. I find that kind of domination throughout the fight either way to be very unlikely, although there is a decent possibility of a stoppage either way.

Had Golovkin Vs Brook gone further, I have no doubt he would have 'ktfo' Brook

True, that is much more of a foregone conclusion than the no mas we witnessed last Saturday.

It depends on whether post-Golovkin Brook is the same fighter as he was before. Some aren't. If he is the same, he can Ward his way to the final bell and get a hometown decision.

boxing_rocks wrote:It depends on whether post-Golovkin Brook is the same fighter as he was before. Some aren't. If he is the same, he can Ward his way to the final bell and get a hometown decision.

"waaaah, Waaaaah, WAAAAAAAAH!!!"

Where's the tiny violin orchestra?

TooEasy12 wrote:First of all, Spence does not need a stoppage win. Great Britain is a major player in the boxing game, and fighters routinely get a fair shake over there. Fighting in Great Britain is not like fighting in Germany.

Secondly, I favor Spence in this fight for two reasons. One, I think he's a better boxer than Brook, and two, he's the bigger fighter. Spence has a career beyond the Welterweight division and in years down the line, will most likely finish his career at middleweight.

The size difference is negligible and on the night of the fight it may be that Brook is the substantially larger combatant. Spence is half an inch taller and has three inches advantage in overall reach. Brook was huge v 3G.

The more interesting question that has been posed is whether Brook can even make 147 in a healthy state any longer.

Spence is capable to become undisputed champion at 147 and 154. Brook had only one important victory (Porter), but it was more than questionable, and one debacle (GGG). I can not understand hype around him, after the loss against Golovkin, because, he had not done almost anything. I expect judges and ref to be on Brook's side, but it will not be enough. Spence by KO/TKO !