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Hatton gives up Mandatory position, Harris vs Hatton = dead
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 11:42
by krikit
Promoter allegedly and Ricky Hatton have today withdrawn from their mandatory challenger position in the WBA and will not go to purse bids for a fight with Vivian Harris. Warren said, "If for example we bid $2m for the fight, then Harris will get $1.6m and Ricky will get $400k. If you ask me if Harris is worth $1.6m, with the greatest of respect to him, he is definitely not worth it. I don’t believe he is even worth the $750k that we are offering
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Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 11:46
by jamesmcdonnell
Oh dear, this is very bad news indeed. Well, there we go, another big fight goes floating down the liffy.
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 11:48
by knockout
Frank is trying to have his cake and eat it!!!!!!
fornicate him!!!!
He wants his boy to have home advantage and the bigger side of the purse as the challenger...... DOESNT HAPPEN
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 11:51
by nickd
FW is out of order here, yes Ricky is the draw but Harris is the champion. They should go to purse bids if thats what it takes to get a real belt and not that piece of shit he has been defending.
Harris actually said he would split any purse bid 50-50 so cant see why they cant do that.
Come on Hatton & Warren lets see some real fights you have got away with murder the last couple of years.
1 blown up superfeather punchbag coming right up....
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 11:55
by Chris the fighter
Who ever heard of a mandatory contender withdrawing from his postion?
Ricky leave Warren now and get this fight on. Your not short of money and its your chance to get a real world title which you have said you have always wanted. Prove it take this fight, he will regert this decsion I think.
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 12:00
by jamesmcdonnell
It's true, I cannot recall the last time a challenger threw away their mandatory position, it seems madness to me, is Hatton saying he would rather not challenge for the belt at all and take less money. It's tantamount to saying that the money is all he is interested in.
This looks very bad. I really thought that Hatton might be prepared for purse bids.
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 12:03
by DK2112
I think if things don't improve soon, Ricky will probably consider his future in boxing. This is getting ridiculous now. Harris should have been happy with his 750K, but at the same time I can see what he means about being the champion and wanting more than Hatton and Warren should do whatever it takes to make the fight happen. As it is, Ricky will now fight in the MEN arena against another foreign nobody. Regardless of money, if Hatton destroys Harris, then the money will really start to roll in. Then Ricky can say 'I'm the WBA Champion, I want more money from the pot'. Then the big fights will come. I find this unbelievable, get rid of allegedly ASAP.
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 12:05
by jamesmcdonnell
Hang on a minute. Does it not occur to you that it is quite likely Hatton who turned and around and said 'I'm not fighting him if it goes to purse bids.' After all, do you think Hatton would let Warren FORCE him to relinquish his mandatory position, not in a million years if he didn't want to.
I have to lay this at the feet of Hatton. He's the fighter, and it's his career.
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 12:19
by dr_hook
allegedly is scared he will lose on purse bids to other promoters that will force Hatton to fight in another country. That’s why the WBU title exists. There are no mandatory fights and you can fight any bums. Hatton never defended the British title because when he was the champ Junior Witter was the mandatory fighter for the title. Hatton also never fought for the European title because Warren would of lost the purse to Urkal handlers. Hatton needs Harris, all the other champions are busy and none of them want to defend their title in Manchester because they are names in the USA or fighting someone better. Hatton could have fought Mitchell in June but they didn’t want to put up the money and they didn’t want Hatton to face rusty Kostya Tsyzu in America/Australia if Hatton won that fight. :x
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 12:23
by DG.
knockout wrote:Frank is trying to have his cake and eat it!!!!!!
fornicate him!!!!
He wants his boy to have home advantage and the bigger side of the purse as the challenger...... DOESNT HAPPEN
Exactly !
So what if Hatton gets the short end of the purse !
Danny Williams did it and look at him now !
What Fwank really means is he won't get his usual share !
Prize tosser ! ( Allegedly ! ).. I did not write this - someone esle did !

Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 12:24
by bennie
Paul Spadafora it is then. Unless Hatton is a man of his word and walks...
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 12:25
by Wilko
Unbelievable.
Call Harris greedy for wanting too much when he's not the drawer but he is the champion and that is far more important.
So does Ricky really want to be in boxing for the glory? doesn't look like it.
For the sake of one fight isn't it better to swallow your pride? if he were to win the title he and Sports Network could then make all the demands they like.
So yet another unknown lightweight at the MEN coming up. do you think people will still want to pay to see him?
Re: Hatton gives up Mandatory position, Harris vs Hatton = d
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 12:27
by REAL_DEAL
krikit wrote:said, "If for example we bid $2m
Dont bid 2 million then. bid a lot smaller.
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 12:29
by Kilburn
Oh well, better move on.
I'd love to see Hatton try and handle Emmanuel Augustus but that one won't happen. Lovemore N'Dou would provide an equally tough test, I hope we get him.
Re: Hatton gives up Mandatory position, Harris vs Hatton = d
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 12:31
by DG.
REAL_DEAL wrote:krikit wrote:said, "If for example we bid $2m
Dont bid 2 million then. bid a lot smaller.
Exactly !
And he can pay Hatton some back door money ! ( Sounds a bit gay ! )..

Re: Hatton gives up Mandatory position, Harris vs Hatton = d
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 12:31
by Kilburn
REAL_DEAL wrote:krikit wrote:said, "If for example we bid $2m
Dont bid 2 million then. bid a lot smaller.
Yeah right REAL_DEAL, and miss out on another M.E.N sellout pay night? Like that's going to happen.
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 12:40
by adamiw
as much as Harris was out of order.
Warren and Hatton had the opportunity to make the fight...and they didn't. shame.
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 12:48
by Wilko
So in the last couple of months Warren has failed to make:
Hatton - Harris
Johnson - Calzaghe
Harrison - Skelton
Warren couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.
what kind of manager withdraws his fighter from a mandatory position for a genuine world title? greedy one obviously.
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 12:50
by DK2112
Wilko wrote:Unbelievable.
Call Harris greedy for wanting too much when he's not the drawer but he is the champion and that is far more important.
So does Ricky really want to be in boxing for the glory? doesn't look like it.
For the sake of one fight isn't it better to swallow your pride? if he were to win the title he and Sports Network could then make all the demands they like.
So yet another unknown lightweight at the MEN coming up. do you think people will still want to pay to see him?
The fans should boycott his fights until he fights someone worth talking about. That's the only way to hurt the promoter, stop buying tickets. I'll be disgusted if Hatton now fights another bum, I really will. If he does, I think people will start pointing the finger at Hatton - does he really want it? There's only so much you can blame a promoter for, will Hatton take the easy route and keep knocking out nobodies?
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 13:00
by KOJOE90
This is so depressing, Hatton should walk away and try and find other oppertunities or retire.
His career is passing him by. He must have made a few quid by now, so why hang around if he ain;t going to fight World class fighters?
Sad, very sad for Ricky, his fans and the sport of Boxing.
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 13:37
by Goz
This must be so demotivational for Hatton too, I can see him someone Spadafora even turning him over.
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 13:47
by Floyd
Goz wrote:This must be so demotivational for Hatton too, I can see him someone Spadafora even turning him over.
Doesn't appear that Hatton has much motivation to begin with. What fighter gives up his number 1 ranking. He should suck it up for one fight take the pay cut. If he wins then Frank and him can make all the demands they want.
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 14:00
by Twinkle Toes
This is terrible PR. not only for SN, but for Hatton as well.
What a miserable time for british boxing.
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 14:24
by Eric the Viking
Ricky Hatton = the Tim Henman of Boxing.
(And that's probably unfair to Timmay H., but I couldn't resist throwing it out.)
Posted: 06 Aug 2004, 15:54
by stujones
From how I have read everything (I have kept quite untill now) it seems like whilst Harris is okay with the money, he is peeved that Hatton will be recieving more than him (which is understandable).
I don't think any blame should be laid on FW because he has met Harries' demands. However, I can certainly see Harries' point of view also. This fight could be still alive IMO if RICKY HATTON was prepared to give more of his purse to Harries. Hatton will still be on a career biggest purse, and its the best opportunity to win the title - I would certainly bend a bit to make the fight.
Warren has the money to stike the deal, however it is RICKY who should be prepared to spread the money more evenly.
Its Hatton who has not painted himself well in this, not either Warren or Harries.