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Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 09 Dec 2016, 05:51
by Enlightened-One
So it seems that Dereck Chisora has been fined £30,000 by the British Boxing Board of Control for hurling a table at Dillian Whyte…
I wonder how much Eddie Hearn paid ‘Del Boy’ (via Kalle Sauerland) for his WWE-style promotional antics, because let’s face it, from a purely casual mainstream perspective, Matchroom’s PPV card on Saturday night is lacking big personalities, excitement and competitive fights to help sell the event.
I’m going to be brave and predict the winner of all ten fights being fought on the Manchester Arena fight card:
• Anthony Joshua
• Khalid Yafai
• Scott Quigg
• Dillian Whyte
• Hosea Burton
• Callum Smith
• Luis Ortiz
• Marcus Morrison
• Katie Taylor
• Conor Benn
I reckon that the only moderately competitive bouts we’ll see will be: Concepcion-Yafai; Whyte-Chisora; and perhaps Burton-Buglioni.
What do you reckon fellas… do you think I’ll score a perfect ten in my prediction?

Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 09 Dec 2016, 06:03
by afcmarshall
Enlightened-One wrote:So it seems that Dereck Chisora has been fined £30,000 by the British Boxing Board of Control for hurling a table at Dillian Whyte…
I wonder how much Eddie Hearn paid ‘Del Boy’ (via Kalle Sauerland) for his WWE-style promotional antics, because let’s face it, from a purely casual mainstream perspective, Matchroom’s PPV card on Saturday night is lacking big personalities, excitement and competitive fights to help sell the event.
I’m going to be brave and predict the winner of all ten fights being fought on the Manchester Arena fight card:
• Anthony Joshua
• Khalid Yafai
• Scott Quigg
• Dillian Whyte
• Hosea Burton
• Callum Smith
• Luis Ortiz
• Marcus Morrison
• Katie Taylor
• Conor Benn
I reckon that the only moderately competitive bouts we’ll see will be: Concepcion-Yafai; Whyte-Chisora; and perhaps Burton-Buglioni.
What do you reckon fellas… do you think I’ll score a perfect ten in my prediction?

It's more competitive than some of his previous cards Whyte and Burton I would rate around the 60/40 mark Yafai I would say is closer to a 50/50 fight
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 09 Dec 2016, 06:12
by Enlightened-One
afcmarshall wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:So it seems that Dereck Chisora has been fined £30,000 by the British Boxing Board of Control for hurling a table at Dillian Whyte…
I wonder how much Eddie Hearn paid ‘Del Boy’ (via Kalle Sauerland) for his WWE-style promotional antics, because let’s face it, from a purely casual mainstream perspective, Matchroom’s PPV card on Saturday night is lacking big personalities, excitement and competitive fights to help sell the event.
I’m going to be brave and predict the winner of all ten fights being fought on the Manchester Arena fight card:
• Anthony Joshua
• Khalid Yafai
• Scott Quigg
• Dillian Whyte
• Hosea Burton
• Callum Smith
• Luis Ortiz
• Marcus Morrison
• Katie Taylor
• Conor Benn
I reckon that the only moderately competitive bouts we’ll see will be: Concepcion-Yafai; Whyte-Chisora; and perhaps Burton-Buglioni.
What do you reckon fellas… do you think I’ll score a perfect ten in my prediction?

It's more competitive than some of his previous cards Whyte and Burton I would rate around the 60/40 mark Yafai I would say is closer to a 50/50 fight
I’ve converted the fractional odds to implied probability and the current betting favourites for the three competitive bouts I mentioned are as follows: Hosea Burton (75%); Dillian Whyte (71%); and Khalid Yafai (65%).
The implied probability for the winners of the other seven fights, according to the UK bookies, are all rated in excess of 95%, which pretty much suggests an awful lot of one-sided bouts.
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 09 Dec 2016, 06:26
by Lackeos
It's not a lot of competitiveness, but there's a lot of British celebrity for a single card, which I think would be very appealing to the British fans. I mean... Joshua, Chisora, Whyte, Ortiz, Quigg, and Callum Smith all on one card?? They love cards like that.
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 15:32
by Enlightened-One
Buglioni has shocked me with a desperate last round stoppage of Burton when he appeared to be a country mile behind on the scorecards!
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 16:35
by Enlightened-One
The Smith fight should have been stopped earlier.
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 19:50
by Enlightened-One
The Whyte-Chisora fight was absolutely marvellous!

Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 19:54
by ValMar
Enlightened-One wrote:The Whyte-Chisora fight was absolutely marvellous!

Yes ! To be honest, I haven't expected this....The most exciting HW match 2016....

Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 19:54
by ValMar
Enlightened-One wrote:The Whyte-Chisora fight was absolutely marvellous!

Yes ! To be honest, I haven't expected this....The most exciting HW match 2016....

Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 20:20
by Enlightened-One
Eric Molina's negative approach when he was dominated by Anthony Joshua was reminiscent to Malik Scott's mindset for the Luis Ortiz fight.
It's all about collecting the pay cheque!
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 20:24
by Grailer
A fool and their money is easily parted.
Keep feeding Eddie Hearn & his cash cow there is no reason to take risks .
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 20:25
by rd350lc
Enlightened-One wrote:So it seems that Dereck Chisora has been fined £30,000 by the British Boxing Board of Control for hurling a table at Dillian Whyte…
I wonder how much Eddie Hearn paid ‘Del Boy’ (via Kalle Sauerland) for his WWE-style promotional antics, because let’s face it, from a purely casual mainstream perspective, Matchroom’s PPV card on Saturday night is lacking big personalities, excitement and competitive fights to help sell the event.
I’m going to be brave and predict the winner of all ten fights being fought on the Manchester Arena fight card:
• Anthony Joshua
• Khalid Yafai
• Scott Quigg
• Dillian Whyte
• Hosea Burton
• Callum Smith
• Luis Ortiz
• Marcus Morrison
• Katie Taylor
• Conor Benn
I reckon that the only moderately competitive bouts we’ll see will be: Concepcion-Yafai; Whyte-Chisora; and perhaps Burton-Buglioni.
What do you reckon fellas… do you think I’ll score a perfect ten in my prediction?

Not so enlightened after a fantastic night of boxing now are we ?
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 20:36
by Enlightened-One
rd350lc wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:So it seems that Dereck Chisora has been fined £30,000 by the British Boxing Board of Control for hurling a table at Dillian Whyte…
I wonder how much Eddie Hearn paid ‘Del Boy’ (via Kalle Sauerland) for his WWE-style promotional antics, because let’s face it, from a purely casual mainstream perspective, Matchroom’s PPV card on Saturday night is lacking big personalities, excitement and competitive fights to help sell the event.
I’m going to be brave and predict the winner of all ten fights being fought on the Manchester Arena fight card:
• Anthony Joshua
• Khalid Yafai
• Scott Quigg
• Dillian Whyte
• Hosea Burton
• Callum Smith
• Luis Ortiz
• Marcus Morrison
• Katie Taylor
• Conor Benn
I reckon that the only moderately competitive bouts we’ll see will be: Concepcion-Yafai; Whyte-Chisora; and perhaps Burton-Buglioni.
What do you reckon fellas… do you think I’ll score a perfect ten in my prediction?

Not so enlightened after a fantastic night of boxing now are we ?
I accurately predicted the outcome of nine of the ten bouts, with only Buglioni's desparate last round KO letting me down (as he was well behind on the scorecards at the time of the stoppage).
I also predicted all the competitive fights that took place on the Matchroom event.
Only the Chisora-Whyte bout surprised me by the sheer heavyweight fight of the year excitement. However, I still predicted the correct winner.
Re-read my words and tell me that I was wide of the mark... please?
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 20:41
by rd350lc
duh ? your thread title was " lack of competitive fights" you must have been watching Mayweather re-runs , not all the closely fought bouts I saw .
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 20:49
by Enlightened-One
rd350lc wrote:duh ? your thread title was " lack of competitive fights" you must have been watching Mayweather re-runs , not all the closely fought bouts I saw .
Please consider the thread title in the context of my original post, where most of my predictions were remarkably accurate.
Whilst I believe I was correct in my prediction about the outcome of the Whyte-Chisora bout, I didn't anticipate how exciting the contest would be... and not one person that uses this forum was expecting it to be a FOTY candidate.
The other fights on the Matchroom card were intriguing but most of them weren't competitive.
Please review my original post in this thread and provide a detailed response to each point I made and explain to everyone how incorrect my predictions were... please!
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 20:54
by rd350lc
mate , if you look at the face of Buliogni after his fantastic victory and tell me that was not a competitive fight you are watching the wrong sport .
I rest my case .
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 21:05
by Enlightened-One
rd350lc wrote:mate , if you look at the face of Builiogni after his fantastic victory and tell me that was not a competitive fight you are watching the wrong sport .
I rest my case .
I accurately predicted that the Burton-Buglioni would be moderately competitive, with the eventual victor comfortably losing the bout at the time of the stoppage, winning only because Hosea simply ran out of gas in the final round.
This is the third time I'll ask you...
Please review my original post in this thread and provide a detailed response to each point I made and explain to everyone how incorrect each and every single one of my predictions were... please!
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 21:12
by rd350lc
Enlightened-One wrote:rd350lc wrote:mate , if you look at the face of Builiogni after his fantastic victory and tell me that was not a competitive fight you are watching the wrong sport .
I rest my case .
I accurately predicted that the Burton-Buglioni would be moderately competitive, with the eventual victor comfortably losing the bout at the time of the stoppage, winning only because Hosea simply ran out of gas in the final round.
This is the third time I'll ask you...
Please review my original post in this thread and provide a detailed response to each point I made and explain to everyone how incorrect each and every single one of my predictions were... please!
This is the third time i'm telling you , you went from there being uncompetetive fights on the bill on your thread title to moderately competitive in your reply now . You got it wrong , for a change it was a great night of action ( with the exception of the Joshua missmatch) .
going bed now ......ta da ....
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 21:17
by Enlightened-One
rd350lc wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:rd350lc wrote:mate , if you look at the face of Builiogni after his fantastic victory and tell me that was not a competitive fight you are watching the wrong sport .
I rest my case .
I accurately predicted that the Burton-Buglioni would be moderately competitive, with the eventual victor comfortably losing the bout at the time of the stoppage, winning only because Hosea simply ran out of gas in the final round.
This is the third time I'll ask you...
Please review my original post in this thread and provide a detailed response to each point I made and explain to everyone how incorrect each and every single one of my predictions were... please!
This is the third time i'm telling you , you went from there being uncompetetive fights on the bill on your thread title to moderately competitive in your reply now . You got it wrong , for a change it was a great night of action ( with the exception of the Joshua missmatch) .
going bed now ......ta da ....
You actually have the audacity to criticise my words that you quoted but admit to not even reading them... and now you're telling me that you refuse to defend your criticism by addressing the actual points that I made?
Read the first post in this thread and you'll surely realise that you got it wrong!
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 21:19
by rd350lc
Enlightened-One wrote:rd350lc wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:
I accurately predicted that the Burton-Buglioni would be moderately competitive, with the eventual victor comfortably losing the bout at the time of the stoppage, winning only because Hosea simply ran out of gas in the final round.
This is the third time I'll ask you...
Please review my original post in this thread and provide a detailed response to each point I made and explain to everyone how incorrect each and every single one of my predictions were... please!
This is the third time i'm telling you , you went from there being uncompetetive fights on the bill on your thread title to moderately competitive in your reply now . You got it wrong , for a change it was a great night of action ( with the exception of the Joshua missmatch) .
going bed now ......ta da ....
You actually have the audacity to criticise my words that you quoted but admit to not even reading them... and now you're telling me that you refuse to defend your criticism by reading the actual points that I made?
Read the first post in this thread and you'll surely realise that you got it wrong!
wow , I bet you have fun argueing with yourself .
Goodnight
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 21:23
by Enlightened-One
rd350lc wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:rd350lc wrote:
This is the third time i'm telling you , you went from there being uncompetetive fights on the bill on your thread title to moderately competitive in your reply now . You got it wrong , for a change it was a great night of action ( with the exception of the Joshua missmatch) .
going bed now ......ta da ....
You actually have the audacity to criticise my words that you quoted but admit to not even reading them... and now you're telling me that you refuse to defend your criticism by reading the actual points that I made?
Read the first post in this thread and you'll surely realise that you got it wrong!
wow , I bet you have fun argueing with yourself .
Goodnight
Goodnight my friend. I'll consider your departure from the discussion as an apology.
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 21:27
by SaadOffTheDeck
Excellent card, I'd pay $20 for that 8 days a week. I've long said, during the abysmal fights of the Klitschko's reign, exciting contender fights is what the Heavyweight division was missing, white/chisora kicked ass. Ridiculous that Showtime decided to spoil the Parker/Ruiz result, and, even more ridiculous that they gave the Taylor result before showing it, instead of arranging to televise an eliminator for the champion on their broadcast team!
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 21:44
by Enlightened-One
Enlightened-One wrote:So it seems that Dereck Chisora has been fined £30,000 by the British Boxing Board of Control for hurling a table at Dillian Whyte…
I wonder how much Eddie Hearn paid ‘Del Boy’ (via Kalle Sauerland) for his WWE-style promotional antics, because let’s face it, from a purely casual mainstream perspective, Matchroom’s PPV card on Saturday night is lacking big personalities, excitement and competitive fights to help sell the event.
There's an iFL TV interview available on Youtube, filmed before tonight's events, where Dereck Chisora thanked Eddie Hearn for paying the £35K BBBofC fine for him.
You can even see Hearn and Sauerland standing next to each other laughing their heads off about it in the same video.
So it seems I was correct about the Whyte-Chisora WWE-style staged antics.
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 10 Dec 2016, 21:47
by Freedom
Joshua vs Molina was an absolute shit show. If not for the exciting fight between Chisora and Whyte the card was a sham. i Had Chisora winning, but only just. Not really a bad decision, a draw would have served justice, along with a rematch.
Re: Lack of Competitive Fights on the Joshua vs. Molina PPV Card?
Posted: 11 Dec 2016, 06:42
by rd350lc