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How the hell is this not the main event?!

Williams down in round 2. Gets up and rocks Charlo. Great fight.

diddy wrote:How the hell is this not the main event?!

Williams down in round 2. Gets up and rocks Charlo. Great fight.

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Yeah I guess. I couldn't care less about that main event. Mares is past it. I won't even watch it.

This fight is brutally hard to score.

diddy wrote:This fight is brutally hard to score.

J ROCK figured him out, its going to be more clear as rounds go on.

One helluva a fight. Williams giving Charlo everything he can handle.bbbbbnoooooom!! Down goes Williams. Down again. It is over. Damn nice uppercut

hulkmaniac wrote:

diddy wrote:This fight is brutally hard to score.

J ROCK figured him out, its going to be more clear as rounds go on.

fornicate, spoke too soon.

Charlo totally classless in victory.

Charlo is a bad mofo. Some nasty sh!t in the ring afterward though.

Charlo looked huge, he's probably a 168 lber

Charlo goes to great length to rationalize his behavior. Pretty decent rationalization.

Calls out GingerHead.

Charlo just shook sh!t up.

Always thought JRock was a bit overrated to be honest. He's a strong but pretty basic guy who has been easy to hit, and he doesn't have any wins of note. The best guy he previously fought was probably Centeno, and we saw how hopeless Hugo was against Sulecki.

Charlo is good though, and very big for the division

crusader wrote:Always thought JRock was a bit overrated to be honest. He's a strong but pretty basic guy who has been easy to hit, and he doesn't have any wins of note. The best guy he previously fought was probably Centeno, and we saw how hopeless Hugo was against Sulecki.

Charlo is good though, and very big for the division

JRock either he has no chin or Charlo's power is just unreal.

The crowd was really on Charlo hard at the end of that, but it was a good performance from him nonetheless.

Charlo looked big, real big. I wonder what he did for this fight that accounts for his size in this fight. Did they do any same day weight check for this one?

hulkmaniac wrote:

crusader wrote:Always thought JRock was a bit overrated to be honest. He's a strong but pretty basic guy who has been easy to hit, and he doesn't have any wins of note. The best guy he previously fought was probably Centeno, and we saw how hopeless Hugo was against Sulecki.

Charlo is good though, and very big for the division

JRock either he has no chin or Charlo's power is just unreal.

Charlo's power is good, but within his last four Trout and Finney took him the distance without going down.

crusader wrote:

hulkmaniac wrote:

crusader wrote:Always thought JRock was a bit overrated to be honest. He's a strong but pretty basic guy who has been easy to hit, and he doesn't have any wins of note. The best guy he previously fought was probably Centeno, and we saw how hopeless Hugo was against Sulecki.

Charlo is good though, and very big for the division

JRock either he has no chin or Charlo's power is just unreal.

Charlo's power is good, but within his last four Trout and Finney took him the distance without going down.

Didn't see the Finney fight, but I think Trout's southpaw stance gave him problems.

He landed big shots on Finney all night, including those uppercuts. He can obviously crack, but I wouldnt say he's an unreal puncher.

crusader wrote:He landed big shots on Finney all night, including those uppercuts. He can obviously crack, but I wouldnt say he's an unreal puncher.

Then J Rock must be chinny.

Jermall Charlo 24 0 0
vs
Julian Williams 22 0 1
Super Welterweight
IBF World super welterweight title

Jermall won by brutal TKO
https://twitter.com/the13thround/status ... 4827340801

Classless?




Full Card highlights here:
http://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/view ... 5&t=122815

ENJOY!!

Jermall Charlo can punch. "He didn't knock this guy out one time waaaaaah, J-Rock is super chinny" - christ, Golovkin needed 9 more rounds to KO Kassim Ouma than Agustin Silva and went distance with Amar Amari, I guess his power is overrated too. Pull up the diap.

Can't wait for his brother to be boring as hell again on TV so that boxing fans can collectively go back to calling both bad.

zorndeslammes wrote:Jermall Charlo can punch. "He didn't knock this guy out one time waaaaaah, J-Rock is super chinny" - christ, Golovkin needed 9 more rounds to KO Kassim Ouma than Agustin Silva and went distance with Amar Amari, I guess his power is overrated too. Pull up the diap.

Can't wait for his brother to be boring as hell again on TV so that boxing fans can collectively go back to calling both bad.

Who in here said that he can't punch? Charlo failing to drop and stop a clubfighter and a good but chinny opponent in two of his last four is perfectly relevant when considering whether he's not simply a puncher ('he can obviously crack'), but an 'unreal' puncher. GGG has stopped nearly 25 straight opponents, hasn't gone the distance in almost a decade, and would have probably been laughed out if he recently couldn't drop or stop people like Trout and Finney; pretty weak comparison there.

This reminds me of the time a few questioned whether Wilder's power had been flattered by his poor opposition, and you somehow comprehended that as them suggesting that he couldn't punch at all. I get that you like complaining, but maybe read a little more closely in the future.

crusader wrote: Who in here said that he can't punch? Charlo failing to drop and stop a clubfighter and a good but chinny opponent in two of his last four is perfectly relevant when considering whether he's not simply a puncher ('he can obviously crack'), but an 'unreal' puncher. GGG has stopped nearly 25 straight opponents, hasn't gone the distance in almost a decade, and would have probably been laughed out if he recently couldn't drop or stop people like Trout and Finney; pretty weak comparison there.

Trout's never been stopped and 3/4 of the internet thought he got robbed against Canelo. What a trash fighter. How hideous that Charlo couldn't KO someone at his level. A+ analysis there.

This reminds me of the time a few questioned whether Wilder's power had been flattered by his poor opposition, and you somehow comprehended that as them suggesting that he couldn't punch at all. I get that you like complaining, but maybe read a little more closely in the future.

Do you think Shaun George hits harder than David Tua or Vitali Klitschko? One KOed Chris Byrd and the other lost to him. Almost like styles, physical attributes, and career trajectories matter in producing results. No different that in the discussion of Wilder (http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... lit=Wilder) that took place before. Instead of taking any of this into account, you seem to like blanket statements. Bold choice.

I think jrock has a very questionabld chin. Didn't seem to take punches well all night.

zorndeslammes wrote:

crusader wrote: Who in here said that he can't punch? Charlo failing to drop and stop a clubfighter and a good but chinny opponent in two of his last four is perfectly relevant when considering whether he's not simply a puncher ('he can obviously crack'), but an 'unreal' puncher. GGG has stopped nearly 25 straight opponents, hasn't gone the distance in almost a decade, and would have probably been laughed out if he recently couldn't drop or stop people like Trout and Finney; pretty weak comparison there.

Trout's never been stopped and 3/4 of the internet thought he got robbed against Canelo. What a trash fighter. How hideous that Charlo couldn't KO someone at his level. A+ analysis there.

This reminds me of the time a few questioned whether Wilder's power had been flattered by his poor opposition, and you somehow comprehended that as them suggesting that he couldn't punch at all. I get that you like complaining, but maybe read a little more closely in the future.

Do you think Shaun George hits harder than David Tua or Vitali Klitschko? One KOed Chris Byrd and the other lost to him. Almost like styles, physical attributes, and career trajectories matter in producing results. No different that in the discussion of Wilder (http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... lit=Wilder) that took place before. Instead of taking any of this into account, you seem to like blanket statements. Bold choice.

There you go missing the point, again. NO ONE here is denying that he has good power; you opened your first post with 'Jermall Charlo can punch', and that point hasn't been contested whatsoever in this thread, just as not one person suggested in the Wilder thread that Deontay can't punch at all. You're wont to moan about positions which no one takes, and if you really think someone here is arguing that Jermall isn't a puncher at least reference the posts.

Jermall can crack, but 'unreal' power suggests another level of puncher and a higher standard of outcome, and in that case it's perfectly reasonable to bring up Trout and Finney. Trout has never been stopped, but he was down against Canelo and Lara, as well as twice against mediocre Daniel Dawson. Considering that Charlo landed good shots on Trout, I think it's fair to suggest that more damage (e.g. a wobble) would've probably been inflicted if Jermall were really a mind-blowing puncher rather than simply a good one. This thread contains no suggestions that his failure to stop Trout is 'hideous' or shows that he can't bang, so bravo on yet more failed comprehension.

Trajectories and styles should be considered, but we're talking about fairly recent bouts from 2015 and 2016, without Charlo being at the end of the line or dropping massive amounts of weight as Byrd did. Further, I'm not seeing what stylistic issue explains an outclassed clubfighter like Finney taking regular powershots from a monstrous puncher without going down or being stopped; this isn't someone with Chuvalo durability, as Finney was knocked out a year before the fight and a year after by Jamie Herrera and Prichard Colon respectively.

By the way, what are the blanket statements I'm making? I never denied that factors such as trajectory and style play a role in whether stoppages are produced (more reading comp issues for you?), but in this case I don't think they reconcile Charlo being an absolutely murderous puncher with him recently failing to stop or drop those two opponents. If he gets a 25 fight, decade long KO streak going it could help his argument though!